I'd wager there would be a passage of time for training, then, and the protagonist would need to be of noble birth. I'm wondering what specializations will be available this time. They suggested only one may only be available per protagonist, to give greater emphasis and reactivity towards our choice.
Not necessarily. Gaspard gave Michel a pass, and he might do the same for others.
You mean the clan for the elven Inquisitor? Felassan's cryptic warnings about his clan made me think there would be some issue in meeting them, if they were a random encounter.
Oh, damn. I wonder if the clan they referenced in the panel is the one our Inquisitor hails from, or if it's a different one entirely.
You mean the clan for the elven Inquisitor? Felassan's cryptic warnings about his clan made me think there would be some issue in meeting them, if they were a random encounter.
You mean like the possibility that he wasn't Dalish at all? Or at least... not a Dalish from any current clans?
You mean like the possibility that he wasn't Dalish at all? Or at least... not a Dalish from any current clans?
I don't think he was lying in that he is ethnically Dalish. I think he meant that he simply doesn't simply see himself as Dalish anymore, perhaps concurrent with his beginning to work for the mysterious entity.
I don't think he was lying in that he is ethnically Dalish. I think he meant that he simply doesn't simply see himself as Dalish anymore, perhaps concurrent with his beginning to work for the mysterious entity.
Yeah, I am of the opinion if he was a true Dalish and not just posing as one, that he might have been an awakened dreamer. He doesn't seem to identify with the current Dalish at all.
Yeah, I am of the opinion if he was a true Dalish and not just posing as one, that he might have been an awakened dreamer. He doesn't seem to identify with the current Dalish at all.
Oh yeah, he was definitely a powerful dreamer. I wonder if he first encountered this entity while he was wandering the Fade.
Honestly, he kind fo disapointed me. I had thought Dreamers were some kind of potentially world shattering one in ten generations mages.
Felassan was terrified of Arcane Horrors and couldn't take out, by himself, a Varterral. Maybe they're just powerful while in the Fade.
You have a fair point. I had always assumed that because they were so powerful in the Fade, that great power would translate into the material world as well.Honestly, he kind fo disapointed me. I had thought Dreamers were some kind of potentially world shattering one in ten generations mages.
Felassan was terrified of Arcane Horrors and couldn't take out, by himself, a Varterral. Maybe they're just powerful while in the Fade.
1) I doubt Fenharel will play an actual role or in anyway be present or connected to events in DAI. If he is, he will either be a fade spirit or someone impersonating Fenharel. Sorry, the entire MO of DA and its plot so far has been to be extremely vague on the existence or dieties of any kind. Sure we have the ashes, but that in no way proves that there was a maker or that there is anything special about the ashes given the huge lyrium vein that is present. So I seriously doubt there will be any role played by Fenharel, at least as any kind of actual God.
2) I think the Dalish presence in the game will revolve around the Arlathehven they are having and will possibly impact some of the dalish future but will definitely give us a bigger glimpse of Dalish Culture.
3) I am not certain how big of a plot piece Briala and company will actually be. Could she be a big guerilla presence and all that? Possibly. She could also be just a shadow group that is helping the city elves out but is not yet a major player on the level of Celene and Gaspard. We truly have no idea how developed that plot line will be in DAI. Especially considering there is no CE Inquisitor.
4) Speaking of Celene and Gaspard...I entirely expect the possibility of reconciliation to be there. Not convinced it will be a possibility, but the way the two characters are written as pragmatists and devoted to the Empire, just in entirely different ways, I could see a reconciliation to save the empire as being possible. Especially since neither of them are portrayed as despicable or even truly unlikeable.
5) The romantic in me would like to see Brialla and Celene get back together, the realist in me though can forsee them working together, but I doubt they ever have a relationship again.
I am hoping that Felassan's clan is the one we meet in DAI, cause I really liked his character.
I don't think Felassan really has a clan.
1) I doubt Fenharel will play an actual role or in anyway be present or connected to events in DAI. If he is, he will either be a fade spirit or someone impersonating Fenharel. Sorry, the entire MO of DA and its plot so far has been to be extremely vague on the existence or dieties of any kind. Sure we have the ashes, but that in no way proves that there was a maker or that there is anything special about the ashes given the huge lyrium vein that is present. So I seriously doubt there will be any role played by Fenharel, at least as any kind of actual God.
2) I think the Dalish presence in the game will revolve around the Arlathehven they are having and will possibly impact some of the dalish future but will definitely give us a bigger glimpse of Dalish Culture.
3) I am not certain how big of a plot piece Briala and company will actually be. Could she be a big guerilla presence and all that? Possibly. She could also be just a shadow group that is helping the city elves out but is not yet a major player on the level of Celene and Gaspard. We truly have no idea how developed that plot line will be in DAI. Especially considering there is no CE Inquisitor.
4) Speaking of Celene and Gaspard...I entirely expect the possibility of reconciliation to be there. Not convinced it will be a possibility, but the way the two characters are written as pragmatists and devoted to the Empire, just in entirely different ways, I could see a reconciliation to save the empire as being possible. Especially since neither of them are portrayed as despicable or even truly unlikeable.
5) The romantic in me would like to see Brialla and Celene get back together, the realist in me though can forsee them working together, but I doubt they ever have a relationship again.
Unless, of course, The Masked Empire was Celene's The Stolen Throne and she is gonna be all bitter and slightly crazy go nuts in Inquisition. I could see her going the way of Loghain fairly quickly. Without Briala, she tended to make some bad decisions. Or rather... after so long she has gotten used to using Briala as a crutch for a lot of her Game Playing. It will be interesting to see if she functions the same way without her.
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Honestly, he kind fo disapointed me. I had thought Dreamers were some kind of potentially world shattering one in ten generations mages.
Felassan was terrified of Arcane Horrors and couldn't take out, by himself, a Varterral. Maybe they're just powerful while in the Fade.
Your clossing sentence pretty much answers your question. A dreamers power comes from being able to consciously enter the fade and even live and gain sustenance from being in the fade.
Your clossing sentence pretty much answers your question. A dreamers power comes from being able to consciously enter the fade and even live and gain sustenance from being in the fade.
The book also seems to point out that he was cutting himself off from the Fade (the mediation and herbs) to avoid his boss? So maybe his power took a dip in levels by doing that... OR he was just playing up his cover.
Unless, of course, The Masked Empire was Celene's The Stolen Throne and she is gonna be all bitter and slightly crazy go nuts in Inquisition. I could see her going the way of Loghain fairly quickly. Without Briala, she tended to make some bad decisions. Or rather... after so long she has gotten used to using Briala as a crutch for a lot of her Game Playing. It will be interesting to see if she functions the same way without her.
Nah, Celene cares to much about the people/elves of Orlais. That is her weakness and her strength I guess. Brialla was actually a bit of a pragmatist to Celene's idealism. Heck, Brialla herself says that she would have told Celene to do the same thing in Halamshiral that she did. I don't see Celene going all bitter like Loghain did, her idealism about what she can achieve for Orlais and its people is too central to her character.
i liked celene throughout the entire book, up until the last page or two... then i just really said to hell with her... as for gaspard... i dont like or dislike him... i like the whole honor thing with him, but to me he is severely misguided in terms of politics
I'm interested in how blowback and unintended consequences will factor in with these revolutionary attempts. Historically, rebellions have a very poor track record, both in succeeding militarily (which is a prerequisite of military rebellion) and actually achieving their social goals. Violent civil reform in particular is frequently actively detrimental- social acceptance, respect, and freedoms isn't something you 'achieve on your own': it's granted by the populace you're living with. Segregation and separation can work, in so much as you're building a separate society, but when your neighbors are still the people you just spent the last year(s) killing and enforcing your will on, good feelings and acceptance are hard to find.
Between the mages and the elves, I suspect the elves are going to be getting less than what they wanted out of the conflict.
i liked celene throughout the entire book, up until the last page or two... then i just really said to hell with her... as for gaspard... i dont like or dislike him... i like the whole honor thing with him, but to me he is severely misguided in terms of politics
Gaspard isn't misguided politically, he is just a racists who doesn't view elves as people. As for Celene, kind of hard to hold what happened to Briala's parents against her when Brialla herself understands why it had to be done, but that doesn't mean she is going to forgive her.
Nah, Celene cares to much about the people/elves of Orlais. That is her weakness and her strength I guess. Brialla was actually a bit of a pragmatist to Celene's idealism. Heck, Brialla herself says that she would have told Celene to do the same thing in Halamshiral that she did. I don't see Celene going all bitter like Loghain did, her idealism about what she can achieve for Orlais and its people is too central to her character.
You could say the same about Loghain. His major motivations were for the good of Ferelden as a whole. Even if most of them missed the mark.
We certainly know that Celene is capable of making the call to kill a few to save more... nothing to stop her from doing it again.
I'm interested in how blowback and unintended consequences will factor in with these revolutionary attempts. Historically, rebellions have a very poor track record, both in succeeding militarily (which is a prerequisite of military rebellion) and actually achieving their social goals. Violent civil reform in particular is frequently actively detrimental- social acceptance, respect, and freedoms isn't something you 'achieve on your own': it's granted by the populace you're living with. Segregation and separation can work, in so much as you're building a separate society, but when your neighbors are still the people you just spent the last year(s) killing and enforcing your will on, good feelings and acceptance are hard to find.
Between the mages and the elves, I suspect the elves are going to be getting less than what they wanted out of the conflict.
While I agree with you. I actually have the opposite opinion of which side will get more what they want. There is a difference between what the CEs of Orlais want and what the forum members of this forum want. I completely got the vibe that the CEs wanted to be Orlesian, but just wanted their rights. I think the change the CEs are going for is far more achievable then the change that the mages are striving for. The idea of equality for elves isn't a big threat to the status quo all in all, especially when you account for the nobles that have been educated at the univeristy. Independent free mages is a threat to the status qou.
You could say the same about Loghain. His major motivations were for the good of Ferelden as a whole. Even if most of them missed the mark.
We certainly know that Celene is capable of making the call to kill a few to save more... nothing to stop her from doing it again.
Yeah, but Loghain was never idealistic at all. He never saw the good in people, he always saw their worst.
Your clossing sentence pretty much answers your question. A dreamers power comes from being able to consciously enter the fade and even live and gain sustenance from being in the fade.
He also seemed to imply (or perhaps outright stated) that he was a somniari
i meant misguided in the form of wanting to go to war with ferelden or nevara or whatever instead of fixing the problems internally... and fixing the true problems at hand instead of creating more.... that was my intent
He also seemed to imply (or perhaps outright stated) that he was a somniari
He did. He told Briala what he was.
Yeah, but Loghain was never idealistic at all. He never saw the good in people, he always saw their worst.
Anora explained him as an Idealist who learned what Idealism cost.
Makes sense i suppose, what with the war and all.
i meant misguided in the form of wanting to go to war with ferelden or nevara or whatever instead of fixing the problems internally... and fixing the true problems at hand instead of creating more.... that was my intent
ahh sorry. Your comment about Celene at the end made me think you were referencing his latter comments on elves.
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