A group of magisters breaks into the Golden City, and suddenly the blame falls on the rest of Thedosian mages?
Who said that? I didn't.
But I support removing the privileges chevaliers hold over commoners in order to diminish the possibility of these rapes ocurring.
Do you oppose keeping checks and balances on the powers of mages in order to diminish the possibility of them abusing them?
Because Elven freedom lasting rests solely on humanity's goodwill which won't be earned by prolonging conflicts or starting them.
Go explain that to Celene and Gaspard, that they shouldn't be at war with each other and won't gain anything by prolonging conflicts or starting them.
With a mindset like that at the cost of tons of lives, I understand why they'd be a bit angry now.
Well thats why i want kill them then we will be safe and they won't be angry 
Do you oppose keeping checks and balances on the powers of mages in order to diminish the possibility of them abusing them?
Nope. I don't oppose reasonable checks and balances on mages to prevent abuse of power.
Do you oppose keeping checks and balances on the rights and powers of Templars in order to diminish the possibility of them abusing them?
Well thats why i want kill them then we will be safe and they won't be angry
lol bye tks
All of His faithful have an ally in the Inquisition.
not in mine... im going to play an elf and kill all the other elves
But is Briala's way any better?
lol bye tks
heh brutal reality always scares away naive idealists 
heh brutal reality always scares away naive idealists
no you're just a little bit of an ignoramus to continue this convo tbh
also it's ot
Unfortunately, the Dragon Age universe has not produced any scenario with which peaceful protest or "Elf Power" is an option; the mythos is roughly set in temporal arenas which don't lend themselves to 20th-century ideas.
Briala's way is vicious and flawed, but I don't inherently disagree with it completely. Given the choice between a coin landing in favor of Celene or Gaspard, I would sooner see it hang on its side, watch the countryside continue to burn and push Briala to hasten an elvish end to the war rather than brutally prolong it.
like the whole let it burn thing, but im throwin briala in with the fire and watching them all burn
Yes, but it's killing his dog that really cheesed him off. I mean, he is Fereldan after all. They're not called dog-lords for nothing.
Reminds me of the WW2 soldier who when the Japanese killed his dog during a beach landing and he basically went berserk and fired every round he had at their direction. The other US soldiers literally had to pry him away from the machine gun turret. His words were "They shouldn't have hurt my dog."
It was a real touching story. I still get teary eyed thinking of some of those stories. If anyone is interested, look up "Dogs of World War 2". It's about 2 hours long, but a really good documentary.
"The chevalier are knights of the highest order. They are the most skilled in the world, their discipline formidable. For their service they are allowed... privileges. These privileges are not always fair... I was a victim once. They can do whatever they want to the lesser-born." - Liselle
Plus we also know they raped Loghain's mother, so it is not just one.
That plus them all literally being murderers, why should I view them positively?
The fact that they have those privileges doesn't mean all abuse them. I'm certain some do and I am against it but it doesn't mean the entire order has to go.
Also, during an invasion, soldiers rape. It's an unfortunate true. Should we disband the army?
Yes, but it's killing his dog that really cheesed him off. I mean, he is Fereldan after all. They're not called dog-lords for nothing.
Poor dog 
no you're just a little bit of an ignoramus to continue this convo tbh
also it's ot
nah i don't im just saying truth that scares peoples who tend live in illusion
like the whole let it burn thing, but im throwin briala in with the fire and watching them all burn
nah i don't im just saying truth that scares peoples who tend live in illusion
this has nothing to do with the topic of discussion, i don't even know who or why it was brought up in the first place but i'd appreciate if you either pm'd me to continue this argument or just stopped before the thread gets locked
you're dismissed
The fact that they have those privileges doesn't mean all abuse them. I'm certain some do and I am against it but it doesn't mean the entire order has to go.
Also, during an invasion, soldiers rape. It's an unfortunate true. Should we disband the army?
Any soldier who does deliberately rape or murder innocents should be punished, yes. They're called war criminals.
Unfortunately for the Chevaliers, this includes every member. In fact, they are the only faction where saying "They are all murderers" is accurate. Not even the Darkspawn are that concrete in that statement.
this has nothing to do with the topic of discussion, i don't even know who or why it was brought up in the first place but i'd appreciate if you either pm'd me to continue this argument or just stopped before the thread gets locked
you're dismissed
If you say so but truth is as it is... 
There are always casualties in war. It's an inevitable, ugly truth to any armed conflict. I agree with Briala's cause to free the elves, so I want my Dalish Inquisitor to help her make that a reality.
It's also possible Celene may be willing to compromise to have Gaspard dealt with, or vice versa, in order to prevent a Nevarran incursion into Orlais.
There's a big big difference between a soldier killing combatants on the battlefield and a person who knowingly prolongs a war for personal gain. One is justifiable as an ugly necessity the other isn't.
So you have a weakened Orlais and an untrained nation of elves against a well trained and prepared invading army at full strength?...Yeah they'll be crushed.
Said the Divine to the Commander.
...yeah, that makes sense actually.
If only Lambert listened like that...
If only Lambert listened like that...
If you say so but truth is as it is...
'Truth' is not universal. Nobody see the true world. The world anyone sees is shaped by their perceptions. What is 'true' to one person is not the same as what is 'true' to another person.
The fact that they have those privileges doesn't mean all abuse them. I'm certain some do and I am against it but it doesn't mean the entire order has to go.
Also, during an invasion, soldiers rape. It's an unfortunate true. Should we disband the army?
Logic dictates that you don't disband the army. You punish the ones that commit the crime. Now take that concept and bring it into dragon age.
Nope. I don't oppose reasonable checks and balances on mages to prevent abuse of power.
Do you oppose keeping checks and balances on the rights and powers of Templars in order to diminish the possibility of them abusing them?
No, I do not oppose reasonable checks and balances on Templars to prevent abuse of power.
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