It's quite possible that the wikia is wrong, since I don't recall anyone thinking that he's exiled.did it? i guess i never caught that in the book
Empress Celene, on the other hand, is a waffling traitorous ****** that I wouldn't turn my back on if my life depended on it.
i guess in a monarchy she can't, but even ronald raegan and some of his staff had been accused of treason over here... but oli north took the blame and wound up being acquitted...
As the monarch of Orlais, Celene is incapable of treason by definition. On the other hand, "traitorous" does correctly apply to both Gaspard and Briala.
Knowing this makes it hard for Briala to side with Celene after the fact. That couldn't go well.
i guess in a monarchy she can't, but even ronald raegan and some of his staff had been accused of treason over here... but oli north took the blame and wound up being acquitted...
Not quite the same. In democracies, the leaders are simply representatives, not rulers, so they can betray their nation and its people by betraying the laws set forth. Meanwhile in monarchies, the rule of the land is whatever the ruler says it is, so they can't betray the law since they make the laws.
That's definitely false. It never states anywhere that he is an exile. It never tells us why he no longer is with his clan.You're right. The wikia even stated that he was exiled.
Thanks for the clarification.That's definitely false. It never states anywhere that he is an exile. It never tells us why he no longer is with his clan.
As the monarch of Orlais, Celene is incapable of treason by definition. On the other hand, "traitorous" does correctly apply to both Gaspard and Briala.
It does apply to Celene, did you just forget she plotted against the emperor Florian that was murdered ?
It does apply to Celene, did you just forget she plotted against the emperor Florian that was murdered ?
Social Darwinism at its finest.
just means you have to get to the top of the food chain and everyone will forget
He's also out of the closet, as it were, as an elf-blooded human.
In Orlais, that's just Tuesday as long as you can get away with it.It does apply to Celene, did you just forget she plotted against the emperor Florian that was murdered ?
Social Darwinism at its finest.
It's called The Game.
It's called The Game.
I know what Orlais calls it. I'm just saying what it actually is. 
Though to be fair, Tevinter beats them by leaps and bounds when it comes to Social Darwinism.
It certainly ends up more...bloody.I know what Orlais calls it. I'm just saying what it actually is.
Though to be fair, Tevinter beats them by leaps and bounds when it comes to Social Darwinism.
It certainly ends up more...bloody.
Well you gotta learn how to play the Game.... of Thrones 
I really got to try out that show.Well you gotta learn how to play the Game.... of Thrones
I really got to try out that show.
From what I've read, he was actually dalish, but left his clan. If i recall, he said that his clan wouldn't do what the Virnhen clan did (summoning Ishmael).
Maybe it's possible the representative of the clan who is summoned to the (speculated) peace meeting may be from Felassan's clan, given his involvement in the crisis with Gaspard, Celene, and Briala (as well as his subsequent disappearance that would preclude his involvement). Briala's actions may explain why the Dalish get a seat at the table, so to speak.
Maybe it's possible the representative of the clan who is summoned to the (speculated) peace meeting may be from Felassan's clan, given his involvement in the crisis with Gaspard, Celene, and Briala (as well as his subsequent disappearance that would preclude his involvement). Briala's actions may explain why the Dalish get a seat at the table, so to speak.
How so?Maybe it's possible the representative of the clan who is summoned to the (speculated) peace meeting may be from Felassan's clan, given his involvement in the crisis with Gaspard, Celene, and Briala (as well as his subsequent disappearance that would preclude his involvement). Briala's actions may explain why the Dalish get a seat at the table, so to speak.
They might be able to make a case about wanting her head. Or at least the Eluvians from her.
From what I've read, he was actually dalish, but left his clan. If i recall, he said that his clan wouldn't do what the Virnhen clan did (summoning Ishmael).
I question if he was actually Dalish:
He dodges the question when Briala asks him outright if he's Dalish. He even threatens to not help her if she forces him to answer that question
He condescends the Dalish in general, though he approves of Briala helping the city elves.
He seems to know far more about the elves of Arlethan than anyone else.
Imshael recognized him and even seemed familiar with him.
My suspicion is that he may have been a Dreamer awakened from uthenera, contemptuous of the Dalish who claim to be the remnants of the elven empire he was in fact a part of.
interesting thought
@ dean
yeah i can see the dalish all pissed off at her having the eluvians
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