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[Shadow Fox]

*slits wrist*

*uses decoy,stealthes then grabs waifu and flees*

[In Exile]

Couldn't care less, if they are truly desperate for their own land they can hoof it to Ferelden

But it wouldn't be their land. Orlesian CEs aren't Dalish. It's like saying that because Nevarra exists Fereldans had no reason to complain Orlais conquered them since they could go there.

[Steelcan]

But it wouldn't be their land. Orlesian CEs aren't Dalish. It's like saying that because Nevarra exists Fereldans had no reason to complain Orlais conquered them since they could go there.

 

Except Nevarra isn't a bit of land set aside specifically for Fereldens

[In Exile]

Except Nevarra isn't a bit of land set aside specifically for Fereldens

And the Hinterlands aren't land set aside for City Elves. That's my point. Even if it was set aside for all Dalish clans period the CEs are not Dalish.

[Shadow Fox]

The Dalish only get the Hinterlands if the Hero of Ferelden was Dalish, so having land where they have sovereignty is still an issue in some cases.

The Dales belong to the City Elves!*Thumps chest*

[LobselVith8]

The Dales belong to the City Elves!*Thumps chest*

Is that message intended for your Dalish Warden?

Seriously, I wouldn't mind seeing the elven Inquisitor have the option to help the elves in the Dales. I get the impression TME sets up Briala as striving for the goal of helping all the elves. She says, "Celene and Gaspard saw an army, but that would be fighting their fight. With the paths, I could get food to alienages where elves would otherwise starve. They would let me move ahead of an incoming army and warn the target, or move behind them and attack their supply lines."

This seemed like an optimistic note to conclude her story. Briala includes the offer to accept Dalish support to Mihris.

[TK514]

Damn, that was pretty cold. Still, it's gonna be damn near impossible to catch Briala, since she could just teleport to the other end of the country.

Not if she's kept away from the mirrors she can't.

[Shadow Fox]

Yup the City Elves have lived in the Dales all this time so the Dalish have no real right to conquer it.

[Hellion Rex]

Not if she's kept away from the mirrors she can't.

There's probably a mirror in every major location in Orlais. Hell, she could just chill at the center of the network, and we couldn't touch her.

[Shadow Fox]

There's probably a mirror in every major location in Orlais. Hell, she could just chill at the center of the network, and we couldn't touch her.

Smash the mirrors!

[Iakus]

There's probably a mirror in every major location in Orlais. Hell, she could just chill at the center of the network, and we couldn't touch her.

 

SOunds like most of the eluvians have been smashed over the years.  The ones left are in old forgotten elven crypts and such

[LobselVith8]

Smash the mirrors!

You don't think siding with Briala is a good idea?

[Steelcan]

Smash the mirrors!

then the elves!

[Hellion Rex]

SOunds like most of the eluvians have been smashed over the years.  The ones left are in old forgotten elven crypts and such

There was one sitting in the middle of the damn palace in Halamshiral. It sounds like some might have been hidden in plain sight all along.

[Iakus]

Yes... let's humiliate the formost military power in southern Thedas. There's no way that'll have repercussions down the line.

 

Seriously... Briala's smarter than that. She knows Celene and she knows Gaspard. They'd never tolerate something like that. And it's going to take centuries before the city elves got something to rival the Chevaliers. Orlais will recover their strength faster than the elves can build theirs.

 

This foremost military power is embroiled in a civil war, is undergoing a religious crisis as templars and mages break away from the Chantry to fight their own civil war on Orlesian soil, and Nevarra has apparantly been getting aggressive.

 

There may be repercussions later on, but at the moment, Orlais is in a very poor position to stop any elves that decide to get uppity 

[In Exile]

This foremost military power is embroiled in a civil war, is undergoing a religious crisis as templars and mages break away from the Chantry to fight their own civil war on Orlesian soil, and Nevarra has apparantly been getting aggressive.

There may be repercussions later on, but at the moment, Orlais is in a very poor position to stop any elves that decide to get uppity

On the other hand, there's nothing like a racial war to drive everyone bank in bed with each other. If the Dales are at the point of secession, Gaspard and Celene might bury the hatchet. Or you'd have a landsmeet like situation were nobles straight up abandon one side.

Briala has the right idea about keeping everyone fighting and hating each other.

[Shadow Fox]

You don't think siding with Briala is a good idea?

Nope too much potential harm from those mirrors.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The Dales belong to the City Elves!*Thumps chest*

Go Team City Elf!

[TK514]

There was one sitting in the middle of the damn palace in Halamshiral. It sounds like some might have been hidden in plain sight all along.

Not hidden so much as taken by the wealthy as art. And now that the secret is out, it would just be common sense to hunt the ones in Noble art collections and other places of power, like palaces and military fortifications, and smash them.

Or bury them. I doubt Briala would be keen on trying to rematerialize into a couple of tons of dirt and stone.

Regardless, if she wants to negotiate with the Inquisitor, she either has to leave her web or invite someone to the center. Either leaves her vulnerable, and inviting someone to the control room leaves the whole network vulnerable.

Further, I doubt being the mirror master leaves her immune to surprise attacks, treachery, or magic. Sure, she has instinctive control of the subway, but she's still fallible and as prone to mistakes and deception as she ever was.

Now, pure tangent speculation time: I wonder what would happen if you used magic, or tried to breach the Fade while in the Eluvian travel space.

[Ieldra]

What happened to smashing them [the eluvians]?

I would never do that except as a *very* last resort.

[The Elder King]

*draws staff*

*drinks lyrium and call my spirit buddy *

Seriously though, not every dalish is bad. My dalish Inquisitor will care about the elves and he'd want to create an elven/dalish kingdom, but not if it'll put the world in danger.
If siding with Briala (if there's a choice like that related to the OCW) would mean that the OCW won't be stopped, my PC would likely side against her.

[Ieldra]

I dislike how the fate of the elves dominates this debate. What about the fate of Orlais and Ferelden? And the dwarves. The mages, maybe even the templars?

[Quory]

Not hidden so much as taken by the wealthy as art. And now that the secret is out, it would just be common sense to hunt the ones in Noble art collections and other places of power, like palaces and military fortifications, and smash them.

Or bury them. I doubt Briala would be keen on trying to rematerialize into a couple of tons of dirt and stone.

Regardless, if she wants to negotiate with the Inquisitor, she either has to leave her web or invite someone to the center. Either leaves her vulnerable, and inviting someone to the control room leaves the whole network vulnerable.

Further, I doubt being the mirror master leaves her immune to surprise attacks, treachery, or magic. Sure, she has instinctive control of the subway, but she's still fallible and as prone to mistakes and deception as she ever was.

Now, pure tangent speculation time: I wonder what would happen if you used magic, or tried to breach the Fade while in the Eluvian travel space.

 

 

Weren't Felassan, Lienne, and Mihris fighting with magic during their travel along the Eluvian paths? I was under the impression that it wouldn't cause the user undue distress besides the occasional summoning of a Fade spirit via magic overuse.

[Darth Krytie]

I dislike how the fate of the elves dominates this debate. What about the fate of Orlais and Ferelden? And the dwarves. The mages, maybe even the templars?

 

I'm pretty much thinking that there's going to be a narrowing of options for fixing the Templar/Mage solution.  I doubt absolute freedom for mages and the templars becoming some sort of specialised law enforcement akin to the grey wardens (ie, they basically go out in search of a threat, but don't act like jailors any more) is going to be an option.

 

There will probably be, instead, degrees of compromise from which to pick.

 

As for the fate of Fereldan. I don't know. I'm not actually sure about the current state of it. Haven't seen it first hand since the end of Awakening and years and years have passed.

 

As for Orlais...I thinking that there will be a chance to strengthen it by ending the civil war or leaving it various states of disarray, making it vulnerable to invasion.

[The Elder King]

I dislike how the fate of the elves dominates this debate. What about the fate of Orlais and Ferelden? And the dwarves. The mages, maybe even the templars?

Well, isn't the thread about TME and its relation to DAI? Orlais and the elves should be the focus of it.
I personally think Orlais will survive the events of DAI regardless of the player's actions, so I'm interested in discussing which will be the elven (and dalish) plot, since I'm not sure how it'll be developed.
I honestly don't have a clue on how the dwarven and Fereldan plots will be developed (and for the former we don't even know if it'll involve Orzammar or Kal-Sharok).
For the mage-templar war, I don't think the war will end in DAI.