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[KaiserShep]

The music in Origins was so freaking funny I could never keep a straight face during those scenes.

 

I actually liked the music in Isabela's scene in DA2. Because it fit the scene a bit.

 

 

But, yes, I really like the lead-into being nice and the follow up because the same.

 

Isabela's was definitely my favorite, largely because of the "dagger stripping", but also because that same music can be used to accompany a brawl in the Hanged Man, which added a fair bit of amusement for me. It did fit her free-spirited swashbuckler vibe a great deal.

[Osena109]

This is high fantasy and i see  nothing wrong with full on threesome  foursomes and moresomes   it worked in dragon age

[bairdduvessa]

Sooooo... when the Inquisitor and his/her LI are ready to get freaky, they turn into puppets and have graphic puppet sex? BRILLIANT.

exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[Fredward]

This is high fantasy and i see  nothing wrong with full on threesome  foursomes and moresomes   it worked in dragon age

 

What does fantasy have to do with orgies?

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 No. 4. Seriously, not joking around. Show me sex the way it is: dirty.

 

 

I get why they don't go this route, but asked my preference, this is it.

[bairdduvessa]

all joking aside i think a combination of 1 and 3, depending on the circumstance.  the game is rated m for mature, but there is no reason it has to call all game of thrones, it can remain fx like.

honestly if you are playing a game for sex and nudity, it may be time for you to go outside and get some fresh air.

 

the sex scenes in dragon age 1 were awkwardly funny when they were there, except for the dark ritual scene which was the whole fade to black thing.  but the random encounters with non party members were so weird, "lets quickly walk off screen and come back on".  (yes i know they did this in SWTOR as well)

 

 

in da2, other than the isabella scene which was actually well though out, and cut out before anything got too heavy; the other scenes were like thos eyou could see on tv and soap operas.  they worked, they didn't take the focus away from the game and they were not over perverted.

 

don't get me wrong, i'd like more acknowledgement of romances, like if isabella was in your house, maybe she had on a different outfit, or even little things like if you were standing around idly (like while you in real life took your hand off the controller to google something or whatnot) maybe they moved closer to you.  

 

the scenes in da2 worked in that they didn't make me feel like a perv.  but to go further than that, would be weird.

 

so why did i pick number 3, the obscured angles.  well think of the humor that can be had.  we see two individuals going at it from weird angles only for their a reveal of something funny to show up.  they are in orlias, so the masks could be hilarious.

 

okay i'm done rambling now

[KeraWildmane]

Option 3, ME1 style. Nothing wrong with a little bit of ass and side-boob.

[General TSAR]

None, BW's creepy fanbase has killed my liking of romance scenes.

[CybAnt1]

 No. 4. Seriously, not joking around. Show me sex the way it is: dirty.

 

 

I get why they don't go this route, but asked my preference, this is it.

 

Honesty is the best policy. 

 

You know, there would not be 80000 mods for sex and nudity at Dragon Age Nexus if some people weren't asking for, downloading and using them. Incidentally, no, I would not call everybody using one a perv or a freak or anything like that; I'm non judgmental. It's their game, and they can play it the way they want to play it.

 

You're asking me if I've ever tried any? Including the one that modified the scenes you have at the Pearl in Denerim? I take the 5th, counselor, even if nobody here knows who I really am. 

 

It's a bit weird that some people even want to fight dragons while having all the jiggly bits hanging out while doing it, but it is still their game. 

 

But, by the way, that said, I also grok that Bioware has to deal with the ESRB as well as a fan base not in complete agreement on the issue, so that's why I acknowledged the problem I mentioned earlier. (That is separate with whether I have issues with the whole rating system in the first place; I do.) 

 

That's why I think the mod solution is the best. The ESRB cannot and will not regulate gaming mods. So this may be the best possible place for certain mod makers to apply their, ummm, talents. Perhaps Bioware should stick to fade to black, and for those who want more ... well, it may take a while, but I think, as I've said many times, DAI will have mods. 

 

I recognize console folk are being left out. 

[daveliam]

None, BW's creepy fanbase has killed my liking of romance scenes.

 

Well, prepared to be disappointed then because, it's likely to continue given that it's been in each of the games in the series.

 

BTW, I tend to find it "creepy" to be obsessed with a feature of the game (and the people who enjoy it) that you're not interested in, so I wouldn't go throwing insults around lest you be prepared to see it come back at you.

[General TSAR]

Well, prepared to be disappointed then because, it's likely to continue given that it's been in each of the games in the series.

 

BTW, I tend to find it "creepy" to be obsessed with a feature of the game (and the people who enjoy it) that you're not interested in, so I wouldn't go throwing insults around lest you be prepared to see it come back at you.

You can be butthurt all you like, I just stated my opinion on the matter.

[Mockingword]

OK, so you're attacking a straw man. Because I've never yet taken a position on the central topic of the thread -- I haven't said yet whether the game should include sex scenes (although so far the games have done so, and I haven't had a problem with that, it is true), nor how they should be depicted.

I was never talking to you, or specifically about you. I was commenting about the general tone of this thread, and every other thread on this topic.

 

You went out of your way to address me, remember?

[AresKeith]

What does fantasy have to do with orgies?

Don't mind him

[daveliam]

You can be butthurt all you like, I just stated my opinion on the matter.

 

Oh, I see.  When you find something creepy, it's justified.  But when I find you creepy, I'm butthurt?  Nice logic.  Your obsession with other people's obsession with romance content is creepy.  I'm just stating my opinion on the matter. 

[General TSAR]

Oh, I see.  When you find something creepy, it's justified.  But when I find you creepy, I'm butthurt?  Nice logic.  Your obsession with other people's obsession with romance content is creepy.  I'm just stating my opinion on the matter. 

Thank you for the compliment, be sure to treat that sore rump or you might end up like Popeye from Band of Brothers. 

 

/end communique. 

[Osena109]

What does fantasy have to do with orgies?

Nothing just saying the Inquisitor is gonna be  a busy man  nothing wrong with him haveing  sex with a bunch of woman at the same time  he has to save the world form the mages now

[Hanako Ikezawa]

What does fantasy have to do with orgies?

Where else will most here have them except in fantasies? 

[Overdosing]

Anything but 2...

[Ispan]

Option 3, ME1 style. Nothing wrong with a little bit of ass and side-boob.

 

I hope you're including man ass.  That'd be fine by me

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

A little roleplay would be nice, naughty apprentice & templar torturer anyone?

[Maria Caliban]

I hope you're including man ass.  That'd be fine by me

But how do you feel about man side-boob?

[CybAnt1]

I was never talking to you, or specifically about you. I was commenting about the general tone of this thread, and every other thread on this topic.

 

You went out of your way to address me, remember?

 

There is a reason I addressed you -- I disagreed with you. I think your claim that sex scenes don't add anything to literature (even if we stick to saying, "plot and characterization" which are not the only components of literature), is false. 

 

Now, can they add anything to a video game? Guess what point's coming next  -- I think it depends on whether your game is aspiring to the quality of good literature, or not. Frankly, I played this game called Leisure Suit Larry many years ago, and I think it could practically be a manual on how to depict shitty, pointless, poorly written/scripted, low-quality sex scenes in a game. It had some funny moments, though. Larry was such a lovable doofus, and he had an enjoyable earnestness. 

 

You know, this has always been kind of a secret heart of video gaming. Just like nobody's willing to talk about how porn has been behind a lot of the technological advances of the last 30 years (adoption of the VCR, development of video streaming tech). I remember one of the first mono-color, low-resolution 2D games a friend of mine had on the Apple II was a strip poker game, and I think that was around 1982. Of course, yes, the opponent was always female, she seemed to lose more often than random chance should dictate, and always lost clothing articles each time that happened. But then, it was 1982. 

 

But of course, the video game medium is both textual and visual, although that balance has been shifting.

 

And then we get into the whole problem of if it's in words (like Shades of Grey), it's erotica. But pictures and video or anything visual, well, that's porn. I don't think so.   There's plenty of visual erotic art, some of it even depicts actual sexual activity as well as nudity. In our newfangled technical era, some of it is even 3D and animated. Is there no difference between it and Debbie Does Dallas? Personally, I would disagree. 

[Lanavis]

I prefer number 1, but like how they did it in DA2. However, I would like it better if the guys were shirtless and the guys were in their bras before the fade to black for a bit of fanservice. Or in their underwear like in number 2, BUT only for the presex stage and fade to black before any actual sex.

[Mockingword]

There is a reason I addressed you -- I disagreed with you. I think your claim that sex scenes don't add anything to literature (even if we stick to saying, "plot and characterization" which are not the only components of literature), is false. 

 

Now, can they add anything to a video game? Guess what point's coming next  -- I think it depends on whether your game is aspiring to the quality of good literature, or not. Frankly, I played this game called Leisure Suit Larry many years ago, and I think it could practically be a manual on how to depict shitty, pointless, poorly written/scripted, low-quality sex scenes in a game. It had some funny moments, though. Larry was such a lovable doofus, and he had an enjoyable earnestness. 

 

You know, this has always been kind of a secret heart of video gaming. Just like nobody's willing to talk about how porn has been behind a lot of the technological advances of the last 30 years (adoption of the VCR, development of video streaming tech). I remember one of the first mono-color, low-resolution 2D games a friend of mine had on the Apple II was a strip poker game, and I think that was around 1982. Of course, yes, the opponent was always female, she seemed to lose more often than random chance should dictate, and always lost clothing articles each time that happened. But then, it was 1982. 

 

But of course, the video game medium is both textual and visual, although that balance has been shifting.

 

And then we get into the whole problem of if it's in words (like Shades of Grey), it's erotica. But pictures and video or anything visual, well, that's porn. I don't think so.   There's plenty of visual erotic art, some of it even depicts actual sexual activity as well as nudity. In our newfangled technical era, some of it is even 3D and animated. Is there no difference between it and Debbie Does Dallas? Personally, I would disagree. 

A ) I never said that plot and characterisation are "the only elements of literature". You made that leap all on your own.

 

B ) I have no idea what the point is of your rambling in the middle here, except that you look fondly on past sexism in video games?

 

C ) I also never conflated erotica with porn. You're reading a lot into my words that I never ever said. Even if I had equated erotica with porn, it wouldn't matter, because I have no problem with the graphic nature of pornographic content. I only take issue with the fact that it's exploitative.

 

D ) Once again, whether or not nudity has any literary merit is completely beside the point. I was never addressing that. I'll freely admit that nudity can have literary merit, but I don't see how that's at all relevant, because literary merit is not what the people in this thread are looking for when they ask for nudity.

[Merci357]

To be honest, I'm a bit confused why it would be a "risk" to include nudity in a game that is not targeted at children. But then again I never understood why graphical violence is totally fine, but something natural like sex and nudity is still a difficult topic when it comes to video games.

 

That said, the only option I dislike (a lot) is 2 - sex in underwear. That's downright insulting... I'd prefer option 3, like in ME1, but if that is not an option for DA:I, then, please, just do a simple fade to black and let us use our imagination.