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[Ryzaki]

No clue, but I'd be surprised if the protheans were that long lived

 

Oooh.

 

 

Ummmmm, guys?

 

Hey! The title didn't specify it had to be someone from the DA series so

 

Anyway like I said someone who could run the country into the ground. So hopefully we get a third option between Celene and Gaspard. (either that or hopefully we can push them into destroying each other).

 

I used to main an LS Jugg. The problem with roleplaying her is that you can express one set of opinions about the Empire to Jaesa and then for the entire rest of the game you have no chance to act on them whatsoever.

I attempted to solve this problem by writing a fanfic and rewriting game events to account for headcanon, plausibility, and roleplaying, and that worked okay for awhile, but I ran out of steam about 85% of the way through. And then I let my sub lapse. Good times.

 

True. I just did it for the whole noble demon angle. I just hc'd it was a long con and she needed herself in a position of near untouchableness before she started it (which she gets at the end of act 3).

 

I do hope you can play that type of character in DAI noble demons are an absolute blast to play. I'm not sure who my ND would be more inclined to side with though. Gascard would at least keep his word and sounds like he's close to the ND type and dealing with another ND would be a boon for my PC...

[Steelcan]

No the asari have legitimately never won a war without the intervention of other species

[Divine Justinia V]

No the asari have legitimately never won a war without the intervention of other species

 

ugh pls don't get me started

[themikefest]

Is that like how, ten years ago, people kept saying that the French never won a war?

Because that was one of the most stunning examples of mass historical ignorance I've ever encountered.

And what people are you talking about?

[Xilizhra]

No the asari have legitimately never won a war without the intervention of other species

No one in the galaxy has won a war without the intervention of other species, given how interconnected everything is. The Prothean homogenization doctrine is one of the biggest reasons why they failed.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

No one in the galaxy has won a war without the intervention of other species, given how interconnected everything is. The Prothean homogenization doctrine is one of the biggest reasons why they failed.

Yeah, whenever Javik critiqued a civilization I wanted a "You're not allowed to talk" option.

 

As for Celene vs Gaspard, of the two probably Celene. We'll see how the civil war brings out their true colors though.

[Steelcan]

No one in the galaxy has won a war without the intervention of other species, given how interconnected everything is. The Prothean homogenization doctrine is one of the biggest reasons why they failed.

 

The human war against the batarians, the quarian war against the geth (no other governments got involved)

 

The Protheans lost when the Citadel fell, the shoehorned "diversity is good" message Javik delivers is mostly irrelevant

[Rusty Sandusky]

No one should be on the Orlesian throne. Damn Orlesians.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The human war against the batarians, the quarian war against the geth (no other governments got involved)

 

The Protheans lost when the Citadel fell, the shoehorned "diversity is good" message Javik delivers is mostly irrelevant

The Morning War or the Mass Effect 3 war? 

[Steelcan]

The Morning War or the Mass Effect 3 war? 

well both, but they didn't win the first one

[Hanako Ikezawa]

well both, but they didn't win the first one

The Geth had the Reapers help them in the second one, so it wasn't just Geth and Quarians. The Morning War however you're right, the Geth won that by themselves, minus the Quarian Pro-Geth people.

[Steelcan]

The Geth had the Reapers help them in the second one, so it wasn't just Geth and Quarians. The Morning War however you're right, the Geth won that by themselves, minus the Quarian Pro-Geth people.

Yeah you are right

[TK514]

A negotiated marriage between the two.

If they can put aside their differences, and I believe they are smart enough to do so with the proper incentive (especially since Celene doesn't have her Briala dependency holding her back), they could probably provide Orlais with the strongest and most well rounded monarchy in its long and storied history.

[ladyofpayne]

Yes. Marry Gaspard or Celine is good idea. But I prefer Gaspard he isin't backstabbing man.

[Sir Froggie]

Can I kill one of them and put their corpse on the throne? I'm imagining a "Weekend at Bernie's" situation

[The Elder King]

Can I kill one of them and put their corpse on the throne? I'm imagining a "Weekend at Bernie's" situation

(though it's 'Barney' )

[Aremce]

I think I'd personally prefer Celene on the throne because 1) she wants to keep the peace and has no desire to provoke unnecessary wars simply because she can, 2) she understands the importance of trade and education and keeping the citizens happy, 3) she's got skills with this Game and can handle herself well - which is a necessary quality for any Orlesian ruler because their nobles won't suddenly stop their schemes, whether I like it or not. I must not agree with or trust Celene, but for me she still seems to be the more ... progressive choice. She'd give her best to find diplomatic solutions for all the problems arising, while still being strong and able when it comes to immediate dangers.

 

Gaspard has his skills, and he has his humor and this concept of honor ... he's not the obvious bad choice. In fact, he's indeed much more honest than Celene. I like how he values his honor more than anything, how he would rather loose than break a truce, and how he can respect Michel despite his origin. He would have been truly great as something like a general ... but I just don't see good reasons for him trying to usurp the throne, and especially not by starting a civil war that will endanger this empire he claims to fight for. I cannot understand that and if he isn't willing to cooperate with Celene again in order to stop the arising greater dangers (a possibility I would very much hope for and don't think is too unrealistic), then he should be put out of the way by defeat.

 

In the game I'm going to try out every possible solution in different playthroughs anyway, however. xD

[ChaosMorning]

Celene, most certainly.

 

Badass queer ruler, patron of the arts, education and the one to lead her nation into a cultural rebirth upon her ascension to the throne?

 

Yes, please.

 

I appreciate Gaspard's code of honour, but the Chevalier's aren't a faction I'm particularly fond of, given what we've learned of how they treated women, commoners and elves.  I don't think he'd care about all the people of Orlais as much as Celene would. Admittedly she probably would have gone back on her word about 'freeing the elves,' but that's too abstract an idea on its own, anyways.  

[RobRam10]

I want to be Emperor!

[Senya]

It might be a good solution for them to marry if they can produce an heir. It would put an end to the civil war most effectively without future rebellions springing up. Not to mention they'd be an excellent team through complementing each others' strengths and weaknesses.

[Milan92]

Not sure yet. My prefered option would be to marry Gaspard to Celene, but that probably won't happen.

[The Baconer]

It is an absurd notion that one may claim domain over what the Maker has created.

 

Their kind are deceivers, made to destroy His flock the same as any demon or abomination, and they will be cast aside as such.

[Augustei]

My Prince-Consort Warden would much prefer Celene on the throne since he could make overtures to Orlais and appeasements without looking to weak while Ferelden regains its strengh, She would rather take Ferelden through subtler means than Invasion unlike Gaspard so my Warden can work with that.

My Tal-Vashoth Inquisitor doesn't give a damn about Orlais or Ferelden or the Elves really. So he would place whoever benefits the Inquisition more on the Orlesian Throne as his primary interest is in increasing the power of The Inquisition (even when it will no longer be needed ) Though he does have a soft spot for the Qunari and the Qun despite being Tal-Vashoth (I like to think his story is alot like stens but without the conclusion of getting his weapon back, he would be slain by the Antaam if he approached Qunari lands without his weapon thus he is no longer really A Qunari without his bow) But he is still somewhat loyal to his people

As for me myself, no Idea Havn't read the book yet but I'm thinking I prefer Celene. People keep saying Gaspard is a magnificent bastard which is a + in my books, but I'd need to know more about his plans since atm they just seem to be to invade Ferelden which is shortsighted imo (Need to know the details though)

[Augustei]

A negotiated marriage between the two.

If they can put aside their differences, and I believe they are smart enough to do so with the proper incentive (especially since Celene doesn't have her Briala dependency holding her back), they could probably provide Orlais with the strongest and most well rounded monarchy in its long and storied history.

They both disagree on the direction the Empire should take, They both feel themselves capable to rule in their own right (Unlike Alistair + Anora, Alistair being smart enough to acknowledge his inexperience and defer to Anoras Judgement) They are both extremely ambitious.

I can only see such a match ending poorly tbh.

[Giggles_Manically]

This dude gets my vote: