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[revanthefirst]

Hello everyone,

 

this is my first time writing in this forum and English isn't my first language, so please don't rip me to pieces for one or two mistakes.

 

During my studies of all new companion news I came to think.

 

According to the newest Info from Pax East 2014 all 9 companion are supposed to be equaly spread among the 3 classes.

 

=> This means 3 mages, 3 rogues and 3 warriors!

 

A very well balanced and sound decision from Bioware in my opinion.

 

However the moment I saw the ingame picture of the warden companion I had the feeling that something was off.

 

 

http://forum.bioware...cussion-thread/

 

 

If I'm not completely mistaken is the warden companion (right below) a warrior (Shield).

But with Cullen a tipical templar/warrior, Cassandra and Iron Bull we already have 3 warriors.

 

Well I know that the armor isn't class bound but "a rogue with a shield"?

Or is Cullen a rogue?

(Cassandra is a confirmed warrior and I don't see Iron Bull as a rogue.)

 

So is the rumored Grey Warden (despite equipment, figure and concept art) a rogue?

Has Cullen secretly changed his basis class?

Is one of the revealed companions secretly the 3 mage?

Or worst is the interesting looking warden no companion?

 

Questions above questions.

What are you guys thinking?

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Cullen probably is an NPC and not a companion. 

[JasonPogo]

Yeah it is looking that Cullen will be one of your NPC advisors. 

[Wolfen09]

cullen gets killed in the opening cut scene....  wait thats the cut scene in my mind... damnit bioware

[Panda]

Looks like Cullen is going to be NPC romance but still keeping the hope up ^^

 

Maybe Grey Warden is NPC since he hasn't been confirmed as companion yet.. that might happen too.

[revanthefirst]

Well if that's correct than everything is fine.

As far as I interpreted his confirmation he was supposed to be a companion but the advisor role sure makes more sense.

 

(Well I know at least one Fanside for Dragon age that made the same mistake as me then. ;D)

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Cullen was confirmed as a love interest, but his companion status was left purposely vague. With the amount of evidence supporting 3 other warrior characters already, it's unlikely that Cullen will be a companion. He's mostly likely going to be an NPC, with the popular opinion leaning towards him having an advisory position at the Inquisitor's base. 

[LobselVith8]

What are you guys thinking?

I've wondered the same thing, since either Cullen or the bearded Warden would have to be a rogue for there to be an equal number of every class, unless Cullen is an NPC leader of the templar faction the player can optionally side with or against, or (as you said) the bearded Warden isn't a companion.



Given the questionable nature of the leak that mentioned advisors (along with the inaccuracies), I don't put too much stock into that theory. At the moment, no one knows for certain.

[Han Shot First]

Cullen hasn't been confirmed as a companion yet. Some of the Cullen fans got a little too excited and carried away with the romance confirmation, and assumed that also means that he was confirmed as a companion.

 

I think it is far more likely that he isn't a companion, and instead is DA's equivalent of Traynor or Cortez. (a non-squadmate romance option)

 

Consider that we know the game will have an even split between gameplay classes (confirmed by devs) and that we know that both Cassandra (offfically confirmed) and the Grey Warden (seen in a gameplay vid) are companions. We also know that both are warriors. That leaves one warrior spot open for an even 3/3/3/ split with rogue and mage companions.

 

While the Iron Bull isn't confirmed as a companion yet, IMO he is far more likely for that third warrior companion than Cullen. We've seen far more concept art for him and he appeared in a trailer. While that alone isn't necessarily confirmation that he'll be a companion, it does lend some weight to it when you consider other factors. With two human warriors already on the team, its unlikely that the third would be human as well. That is a point in the Iron Bull's favor. Also Cassandra and Cullen would be far too similar in personality and outlook, with their slighly pro-Chantry leanings. The Iron Bull however is a Tal-Vashoth mercenary, which is a completely unique perspective compared to either Cassandra or Cullen. Another point in the Iron Bull's favor. Finally, both Cassandra and the Grey Warden are sword-and-board warriors. Although you can respec the classes, that still probably means that the third warrior will instead initially wield a two-handed sword. In concept art and such we see the Iron Bull wielding a two-handed weapon, whereas Cullen would be a sword-and-board warrior like the Grey Warden and Cassandra.

 

In conclusion I think the Iron Bull is going to be that third warrior. That leaves Cullen off the companion list, and probably means he'll be one of the Inquisition's agents or the castellan for your fortress, or something similar.

[AresKeith]

I think Iron Bull got confirmed at PAX

[Phate Phoenix]

Really, the only class that we're really unsure about is Warrior. As stated above by others, Cassandra and the Iron Bull were both confirmed, and are both Warriors. Cullen is the only other confirmed Warrior, but he hasn't yet been confirmed as a companion. There's some older art and images of another Warrior, but we've heard nothing about him, and he is not confirmed in any sense.

 

The final mage is likely to be DHMG, who is possibly Dorian, and the final rogue is possibly Cole from Asunder.

[AresKeith]

Really, the only class that we're really unsure about is Warrior. As stated above by others, Cassandra and the Iron Bull were both confirmed, and are both Warriors. Cullen is the only other confirmed Warrior, but he hasn't yet been confirmed as a companion. There's some older art and images of another Warrior, but we've heard nothing about him, and he is not confirmed in any sense.

 

The final mage is likely to be DHMG, who is possibly Dorian, and the final rogue is possibly Cole from Asunder.

 

While we haven't heard anything about the Grey Warden he does have more evidence as a companion over Cullen

[Phate Phoenix]

While we haven't heard anything about the Grey Warden he does have more evidence as a companion over Cullen

 

Does he? 

[katerinafm]

Either the Grey Warden has been cut (please no!), or Cullen is an NPC and not a companion. Or, the Grey Warden has been made a rogue since those concept art images and is taking one of the rogue spots in the party (Cullen has been shown to be a warrior for two games, so them changing it in the third game would be off). I'm thinking that they are going ME3's route and making some romances NPCs and not party members. Cullen could be in your main keep as an advisor or something.

 

Edit: Also, has it been 100% confirmed that it's going to be 3/3/3? I know they said that you can have an all warrior party, but maybe they were talking about warriors specifically?

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I've wondered the same thing, since either Cullen or the bearded Warden would have to be a rogue for there to be an equal number of every class, unless Cullen is an NPC leader of the templar faction the player can optionally side with or against, or (as you said) the bearded Warden isn't a companion.

Given the questionable nature of the leak that mentioned advisors (along with the inaccuracies), I don't put too much stock into that theory. At the moment, no one knows for certain.

I don't think most people quoting the "advisor" theory are necessarily backing the leaked theory that claims red templars will be the big bad, etc. It's more just knowing that the keeps will have specialties towards trade/espionage/military force that leads to the conclusion that likely there's someone you have to go to for those specialties. 

 

But you know the picture you posted is fan art, right? 

[revanthefirst]

Well the Warden is shown as a compaion in an ingame screenshot.

[azarhal]

I don't think most people quoting the "advisor" theory are necessarily backing the leaked theory that claims red templars will be the big bad, etc. It's more just knowing that the keeps will have specialties towards trade/espionage/military force that leads to the conclusion that likely there's someone you have to go to for those specialties.

 

I can see that, except that BioWare never mentioned talking to someone to select the keep's type, and it actually looks UI based on the old PAX demo.

[AresKeith]

Does he? 

 

Multiple concept arts, shown in the blog about companion customization along with Cassandra, and he was shown in alpha-gameplay footage along with Sera, Vivienne, and the Inquisitor

[Phate Phoenix]

Multiple concept arts, shown in the blog about companion customization along with Cassandra, and he was shown in alpha-gameplay footage along with Sera, Vivienne, and the Inquisitor

 

But that was awhile ago, and we've heard of Sera now, the other character seen in pre-alpha footage. Don't get me wrong, I'm rather sure Cullen's an NPC myself, but, well, the Grey Warden is hardly a sure thing. To assume so is setting oneself up for a fall, yeah?

[daveliam]

But that was awhile ago, and we've heard of Sera now, the other character seen in pre-alpha footage. Don't get me wrong, I'm rather sure Cullen's an NPC myself, but, well, the Grey Warden is hardly a sure thing. To assume so is setting oneself up for a fall, yeah?

 

I think that if someone is using the evidence to state that the Grey Warden is definitely in, then yeah, it's setting themselves up for a possible disappointment.

 

However, to say that his presence in pre-alpha gameplay footage is a pretty solid piece of evidence to support his inclusion given that it was shown after the devs stated that it was too late to incorporate a different character (Maevaris) into the game, is a pretty solid statement.  He's not definitely in, but he's definitely more than likely going to be in given the gameplay footage.

[LobselVith8]

I don't think most people quoting the "advisor" theory are necessarily backing the leaked theory that claims red templars will be the big bad, etc. It's more just knowing that the keeps will have specialties towards trade/espionage/military force that leads to the conclusion that likely there's someone you have to go to for those specialties. 

I don't see why that would necessarily be the case.

 
But you know the picture you posted is fan art, right?

Yes, which is why I stated we don't know whether Cullen or the bearded Warden are even companions; it does illustrate who we suspect may be companions so far.

[Phate Phoenix]

I think that if someone is using the evidence to state that the Grey Warden is definitely in, then yeah, it's setting themselves up for a possible disappointment.

 

However, to say that his presence in pre-alpha gameplay footage is a pretty solid piece of evidence to support his inclusion given that it was shown after the devs stated that it was too late to incorporate a different character (Maevaris) into the game, is a pretty solid statement.  He's not definitely in, but he's definitely more than likely going to be in given the gameplay footage.

 

And that's all I'm saying.  I see a lot of definite statements thrown around this forum, and that never ends well.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I don't see why that would necessarily be the case.

It's not necessarily. It's speculation. We're pretty sure, from comments on the war room art, that we'll have NPCs around the base. This is one theory about what their purpose could be. It's not necessarily the right one. I mostly just wanted to say that I don't think most people supporting it are doing so in support of the red templar leak. I don't think many people actually believe in it, at this point. 

[daveliam]

And that's all I'm saying.  I see a lot of definite statements thrown around this forum, and that never ends well.

 

Totally agreed.  It gets frustrating because other people read it and think that it's official and then go off and spread the wrong opinion like a virus to other threads.  It also don't help that we (myself included) throw around statements like "semi-confirmed" and "pretty much confirmed" and "as good as confirmed".