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[Divine Justinia V]

How would you kill someone who's method of murder was death by irony?

 

death by irony²

[Dean_the_Young]

death by irony²

Is that sarcasm?

[Divine Justinia V]

Is that sarcasm?

 

typically if you have to ask, then no.

so

going by Hina's logic, no.

 

How else could you match that method?

[SgtSteel91]

I'm on the fence about Gaspard. If he can let go of trying to conquer Fereldan then I guess he's going to end up as a reluctant foe.

[ladyofpayne]

So, we have to choose his short name. Gaspie? Gassy? Gas? Duky?

[ladyofpayne]

His heraldy

[DuskWanderer]

Yeah, count me in team Gaspard too. I didn't see anymore racism than we saw elsewhere in Ferelden, and Briala and Celene obviously have their reasons to dislike Gaspard.

 

I think he'll probably be in DA:I, but I hope supporting him isn't just the designated evil thread. Celene is just as ruthless as he is, and I don't want it to turn into the cliche of "woman good, man bad" that spring up like weeds.

 

As for Fereldan, Celene wanted to conquer Ferelden too. She just used sex rather than violence.

[The Ascendant]

I can't wait for my Qunquisitor to interact with him.

'I have always have a great interest in the Qunari. A race capable of stalemating every nation on Thedas is not something to be ignored.'

'I am afraid you'll be disappointed your Grace, I am not Qunari.'

'Am I to believe you are simply a tall human with elf ears and horns?'

'Very imaginative your Grace, most simply run away screaming 'oxman' or 'giant heretic'.'

'I do hope you were not offended by the ignorance of our peasants, your Eminence.'

'Not at all. Considering that your Chantry is the main source of knowledge for humans, your society makes a great deal of sense.'

[phyreblade74]

From what I read so far, I think Celene truly loved Briala, because she has without any doubt threatened her own throne for her. Didn't want to marry any noble or Gaspard, because it would be over with Briala. That's where her " i'd do anything for the good of Orlais " was flawled. She promised also some things, " like freedom for elves " because she didn't want to lose her love I suppose. 

 

But freedom for elves, I don't believe it right now. She doesn't care that much about the elves that she calls  "poor creature " and since I haven't finished the book yet, I'm hoping that Briala won't believe it too. The human people would not accept that, half of the kingdom would be hostile. Celene was already affected by rumors about her being too lenient toward the elves, and just for a few rumors, ( while someone else would do it for security ) she decided to crush a rebellion. It was all about the game and elves were casualties of it. Celene has never let anyone or anything threatened her throne, so I'm not sure she will take all the risks for the elves. 

 

I'll see if I change my mind later.

 

I don't believe Celene loved Briala, so much as she wanted her.  Briala made for pleasure in Celene's life and she enjoyed that.  It was always self-serving and selfish, her feelings, until you can't really say it was any real love of Briala herself or just how good she made Celene feel.  By the end of the book, I didn't like Celene very much at all.  I respected her as a ruler and a cold-blooded politician, rather.

 

I was surprised as heck, that I liked Gaspard far more, rather.

[efd731]

I went into the book expecting black and white. Celene is progressive but probably untrustworthy with a small army, gaspard is traditional douchebag who is upfront and honest with large army. Choose your poison. Pleasantly surprised they made both a viable option. If only it were possible to bromance gaspard

[Ajna]

I think I much prefer upfront and honest douchebaggery over cloak and dagger Game playing, I despise manipulation and that's why my respect for Celene hit rock bottom by the end of the book.

[Char]

I havent read TME so from a completely neutral perspective I think that the section of the game containing these two characters is going to be fantastic. Its really interesting on how everyone has been divided on their perceptions of each character, and I'm glad that there doesnt seem to be an obvious 'right' answer, and that both sides have their faults. I love a bit of intrigue

[MisterJB]

I propose we rename this thread to "His Imperial Majesty, Gaspard deChalons fan thread."

[Dean_the_Young]

How about

 

His Imperial Awesomeness, Gaspard deChalons fan thread?

 

Then you can squee like a fan every time you read the title.

[ladyofpayne]

His Imperial Awesomeness, Gaspard deChalons fan thread?

 

I agree.

[ladyofpayne]

I think we should also give more info about him in 1 message. Or start the new thread.