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[General TSAR]

Well I imagine people find him special because he was a originally a stuttering and fraternizing Templar who wanted to bang your female mage and was your male mage's brosif. Then he became traumatized and wanted to kill/quarantine all the mages to which Greagoir shot him down or approved depending on your action. Then he got sent to the worst circle in Thedas but actually mellowed out a bit, and stood against Meredith when she lost her marbles. After dealing with the former Knight Commander, he either let you escape or pledged his Templars to you. 

 

He has an interesting arc as far as I'm concerned and I want to see where that would lead in the game. 

[Diamond131]

Even though he's been in 2 games there's still room for character development that people would like to see.

[dragonflight288]

Yes, they did temper him to be more like gregor who really wasn't a bad guy. If you side with templars, he retires and it's kind of sad. You realize he probably felt more like they were there just to keep mages from becoming apostates or blood mages rather than be tyrant lords over them.
 

I think this is how Cullen has been evolving. I always felt the best way this story could evolve between templars and mages is if the templars became more like guardians who trained the mages to resist demons (since according to alistair templars have to be very disciplined with strong minds blah blah blah - minus the lyrium addiction I guess), and this would require training. And I always felt that the templars should be responsible to help them with this as they supposedly have such discipline and strong minds (despite being lyrium addicts or did they drop that bit all together). And then the templars just worry about blood mages and abominations and apostates. But people would not want to be apostates if it shifted so that they were simply trained to not fall prey to demons and their tricks. It seems this would be the only wise outcome for both sides.

 

They retconned it so they HAVE to take lyrium. Alistair is taking it in the comics so he can use his templar abilities again. 

[WildOrchid]

Because girls like Twilight

 

We are talking about that Cullen right?

 

Lmfao

[dragonflight288]

There are comics with alistair taking lyrium? Oh god, how far he must have fallen.

 

He's adventuring with Varric and Isabella trying to find his father Maric, who was lost at sea as far as anyone knows. 

 

He meets a possible sister of Morrigan's as well. 

[General TSAR]

Look at that Characterization:

[dragonflight288]

Look at that Characterization:

 

And Gaider later said that those mages would be made tranquil. 

[Battlebloodmage]

There are comics with alistair taking lyrium? Oh god, how far he must have fallen.

Lyrium are bad. You shouldn't use them. If you do them, you're bad, cause lyrium are bad, m'kay?

[dragonflight288]

Lyrium are bad. You shouldn't use them. If you do them, you're bad, cause lyrium are bad, m'kay?

 

Harrowing is bad. Joining is bad. Using lyrium to augment magic instead of blood magic is bad because using lyrium is inherently bad. 

 

Right? 

[Panda]

Well I think he's nice character. I love many minor characters, even more than many companions. You don't need to know much if you like what you know and you can do more headcannons when there isn't so much info around.

 

I try to tell shortly why I like him:

 

- He's friendly, I like all characters who are friendly for my Warden/Hawke. I just like friendly people.

- He has nice character deveploment through games.

- His shyness in DAO and his obliviousness was funny in DA2.

- He is my Hawke's friend. "I want to know what old friend is doing in these troubles times".. it's close to that what Hawke says to Cullen in act 3... I think. I put that out of my memory so don't take it as fact. Anyways I loved to chat him in DA2, you can do that quite much during the game. You can talk with more than Orsino and Meredith for example since he's always in the gallows ^^

- He has nice noodle hair.

- And of cource he's handsome and has nice voice. I'm shallow too, I like his looks though personality comes first.

 

EDIT: Well this probaply doesn't make him special character but just nice package.

[Jynxed_]

This again? Oh god, haven't we had enough of the templar/mage war?

You do realize that the mage/Templar conflict is a pretty big aspect in DAI? So...I guess no. No we haven't heard enough  

[Battlebloodmage]

Harrowing is bad. Joining is bad. Using lyrium to augment magic instead of blood magic is bad because using lyrium is inherently bad. 

 

Right? 

Yup, cause lyriums lead to increase in power, power corrupts, corruption is evil, and evil is bad. That is why you shouldn't use lyriums, cause lyriums are bad, m'kay?

[ajramsey]

He's mysterious. We really don't know much about him besides of what we have seen in the game and if you talk to him and listen to him and pay attention to him you can see the character growth in tiny window we get of him in the games.

 

I love stories about people, people that change and that have been through crazy stuff and from my experiences with Cullen, he went from a young templar that was crushing on the female mage, to being tortured by demons for what was it days? anyways a long time, can you imagine what that would do to the mind? of course he wants to kill all the mages, who wouldnt? But after that he's traumatized. In  DA2 when I first came across him i seriously thought he would try to kill me and i would have to fight him, but no..it seems like he matured and what ever scars he has from origins he's keeping him locked up tight, and that's one thing I find interesting about him...i mean is he hiding those feelings, pushing them back or did he find a way to heal and move on? we dont know and we might find out in the next game. You can also talk to him when you go to the gallows...but what really impressed me about cullen was the development of going from young templar that wants to kill all mages because they are demons to growing up and saying nooo not all mages need to die and helping Hawke at the end defeat Meredith because she was the reason for all of it (and anders), and it surprised me that he let my hawke go. I think, at least to me, that represented that he could end up being a very strong character with a good head of his shoulders and not completely "me, me ,me, poor me, woe is me and my terrible life" like other characters. 

 

but who knows what he will be like in the next game, we will have to wait and see.

[General TSAR]

And Gaider later said that those mages would be made tranquil. 

Exactly.

 

They are far more useful alive, they are at peace , and Meredith's authority got taken down a few pegs.

 

I love happy endings. 

[wcholcombe]

And Gaider later said that those mages would be made tranquil. 

Gaider hinted at that might be their fate. He never said it was for a fact what would happen to them.  His argument in that statement also conflicts with events from the games.  He says there is no way to detect possession, but Merril does so. Also, by his argument Gregoire wouldn't have been able to spare the mages in DAO as there would be no way to tell if they were possessed or not.

 

I just don't think with Cullen being in charge and specifically stating that Gregoire was right in how he handled the Ferelden circle that he would tranquil those mages.

 

 

There are comics with alistair taking lyrium? Oh god, how far he must have fallen.

It isn't a bad plan when you are attacking a magister lord in Tevinter.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

@OP's question of what Cullen so special:

 

Nothing. He's just some kid from Brooklyn(points to whoever gets the reference).

[Battlebloodmage]

Exactly.

 

They are far more useful alive, they are at peace , and Meredith's authority got taken down a few pegs.

 

I love happy endings. 

We also don't know if Cullen orders for them to be tranquil, and tranquil can actually be reversed. 

[ajramsey]

There are comics with alistair taking lyrium? Oh god, how far he must have fallen.

I read the comics and i don't remember him saying he was taking lyrium, i remember him saying that he was practicing again.

[Battlebloodmage]

@OP's question of what Cullen so special:

 

Nothing. He's just some kid from Brooklyn(points to whoever gets the reference).

Now he's just somebody I used to know.

 

(Points to whoever gets the reference). 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Now he's just somebody I used to know.

 

(Points to whoever gets the reference). 

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Winter Soldier?

[General TSAR]

 

Could someone please explain to me why people are so head over heels in love with Cullen?  If we review his essentially minor role so far we have

 

1.  He's a templar.  Now, depending on where you stand on the mage/templar debate this could be good or bad, but its certainly not unique.  We don't see people squeeing over Greagoir or Thrask for example.

Speak for yourself, I love Greagoir platonically. 

 

We also don't know if Cullen orders for them to be tranquil, and tranquil can actually be reversed. 

(Sad facial expression) Oh well, at least he got a nice bit of character evolution. 

[BubbleDncr]

I see Cullen as special just because he's one of the few characters to be in both DA:O/A and DA2 - others being Flemeth, Bodan, Sandal, Isabella, Merril, and Anders (sort of) - and I'm not counting cameos.

 

Isabella and Merril are examples of how a character can be a minor character in one game, and then have their story arch hit its climax and resolution through being a companion in a later game. Anders is similar, he just got to be a companion twice.

 

Flemeth, Bodan, Sandal, and Cullen have all had roles in 2 games, which gives them an ever bigger story arch. I don't foresee the first three's stories ending anytime soon - they seem to be around for the long haul. But Cullen, IMO, seems like his story arch is in a good spot to start it's resolution. So I really just want to see the end of his story.