Why is Cullen so special?
#126
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 04:11
#127
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 04:13
Evangeline from Asunder or whatever her name be. She would make a better companion
While I agree with Evangeline being better than Cullen, it doesn't really work since she left the Templars to be with Rhys. Therefore, she isn't a good set of eyes to see the Templar perspective from anymore.
#128
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 04:14
I think he represents a unique viewpoint: someone who has experienced the worst abuses of both mages and templars alike. I also think that he will have gone through some character development following the end of DA2, such as being hoisted from the Order for siding with Hawke against Meredith.
I'm not even a huge fan of the character, and even I admit that there are some interesting story possibilities around Cullen. If you don't like it, feel free to beat your chest and cry bloody murder, because it's not like you can do anything to change things anyhow.
#129
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 04:14
I've said in the past, and stand by this; Cullen is probably my second, maybe third favorite non-companion character in Dragon Age. I think he's under gone the most growth out of any character other than the companions(and really, arguably more than a few of them).
I've also said, repeatedly, that I don't want him as a companion despite being a fan. And I stand by that as well.
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#130
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 04:18
I think he represents a unique viewpoint: someone who has experienced the worst abuses of both mages and templars alike. I also think that he will have gone through some character development following the end of DA2, such as being hoisted from the Order for siding with Hawke against Meredith.
I'm not even a huge fan of the character, and even I admit that there are some interesting story possibilities around Cullen.
and where he experienced templars abuses becauce to be honest it was otherwise as he didn't saw them as he was blind for entire game.Pretty much you could still take random templar from majority and would have smiliar views as him...
#131
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 04:27
#132
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 04:30
and where he experienced templars abuses becauce to be honest it was otherwise as he didn't saw them as he was blind for entire game
In Act 3, where he acknowledges that he doesn't agree with what the Templars are now doing.
#133
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 04:31
Any other male companion as a LI, honestly. There is four or five new male companions and only two male LI options (unless Bioware take back their words about number of LIs not being larger). Giving it to Cullen is such a waste@BBK you obviously just glossed over the thread because no one has said how hot Cullen is for 20 pages straight. But, it seems more like you're just jumping on the bandwagon of haters/trolls that have something negative to say regarding the fans...I am curious though, if someone would answer this for me, why are ppl still bent out of shape because Cullen is in the game? Who's romance slot/tank does he take away from? He hasn't been confirmed a companion so, what's all the fuss over about taking up spots in the party?
#134
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 04:32
That is not abuse. It is seeing your comrades crossing the lineIn Act 3, where he acknowledges that he doesn't agree with what the Templars are now doing.
#135
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 04:34
In Act 3, where he acknowledges that he doesn't agree with what the Templars are now doing.
And where was that because he never said that well perhaps had "doubts" about RoA in kirkwall (still he choped mages without hesitation) but nothing in kirkwall he was even open or alrik solution (what wasn't so bad as some try paint that )
#136
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 04:44
Any other male companion as a LI, honestly. There is four or five new male companions and only two male LI options (unless Bioware take back their words about number of LIs not being larger). Giving it to Cullen is such a waste
How ?
#137
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 04:49
"The Right of Annulment was invoked on the Circle in Ferelden when I was younger. There, it was justified. Demons overran the whole tower. Here ... it's much harder to tell who's in the wrong."
"I will do what (Meredith) commands of me ... but something about this isn't right."
"The Right has always been a last resort, when every mage involved was beyond salvation. The situation was far more dire in Ferelden's Circle, and many mages were yet saved. We could do as much here." (That line's not in this video, but he does state it when commenting on three mages who surrender to Hawke.)
#138
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 04:52
That is not abuse. It is seeing your comrades crossing the line
Experienced=witnessed. Forgive me, I didn't realize you were going to interpret my every sentence literally.
For future reference, if I say you're making a mountain out of a mole hill with this Cullen thing, understand that no actual mountains or mole hills are involved.
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#139
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 05:07
Cullen's had like 12 lines over 2 games. He was ashamed he liked your female mage warden. He wanted to slaughter the Ferelden circle, and will slaughter the Kirkwall circle, but because he lets a mage Hawke go free he has character progression? Yeah, I'm not seeing it.
Not really. Cullen has much more screentime in DA2 than this. 12 lines might be what he has in Origins. In DA2 6 lines are like one conversation with him, which you can make many times in the game. For example I don't think you are counting in that you can talk with him in gallows quite much during the game about what is happening and also question his views.
Also you don't seem to see the reason behind his actions, characters aren't just so simple and writers have give them reasons why they do what they do. It'd be bad writing without. He wanted to slaughter Ferelden circle.. the couple mages that were left and had been tortured by Uldred. He had been tortured himself a long time and seeing his friends die. There is reason for his words. In DA2 he many times says how he doesn't want to annul the circle and think it isn't right. He just chooses to follow Meredith who is his superior even if it conflicts with his own views and morality and that's his character flaw. I doubt you have played with siding with templars since in that you can see what Cullen thinks about the annulment and stuff. It's kinda with Anora, many dislike him since they never made her a queen so they never saw what kinda character she is, they just have small picture of her.
#140
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 05:14
That makes him useful, not interesting. We could get a new templar character, Cassandra underwent templar training.
What makes Cullen worthy of being companion or LI except his enormous fan base? Nothing
What makes any character worthy of being a companion? David could have written someone different than Alistair.
If this is a thread that evolves into trashing on a character without really knowing how the character exists in the game (something you possibly won't know until release), then this thread will find itself getting closed.
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#141
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 05:16
That makes him useful, not interesting. We could get a new templar character, Cassandra underwent templar training.
What makes Cullen worthy of being companion or LI except his enormous fan base? Nothing
Nowhere is it stated that Cassandra received Templar training.
#142
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 05:38
This Cullen thread you think we should look in was started 4 days ago and has 4400 posts!! (Amazingly the majority of those posts seem to have been made by 20 or so people.
You're mixing up the Cullen threads. The newest one has around 200 pages and was created in the DA:I forums since Cullen was confirmed in game. The thread that is 4400 pages is a few years old and has been contributed by many people over that time.
And you don't have to slog through anything. You could just come in and ask a question, if you really cared to.
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#143
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 05:52
Give our blondie templar a chance bro... If you played Mass effect 1, Tali and Garrus weren't that interesting. In ME2, they turn out to be one of the favorites. Who knows? Maybe you will like Cullen in the third game.
#144
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 05:55
Give our blondie templar a chance bro... If you played Mass effect 1, Tali and Garrus weren't that interesting. In ME2, they turn out to be one of the favorites. Who knows? Maybe you will like Cullen in the third game.
I always heard that Garrus and Tali were much beloved by the fans in ME1.
#145
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 06:00
Showing disappointment in a certain companion choice is forbidden on this forum? So much for freedom of speechWhat makes any character worthy of being a companion? David could have written someone different than Alistair.
If this is a thread that evolves into trashing on a character without really knowing how the character exists in the game (something you possibly won't know until release), then this thread will find itself getting closed.
At that moment the lore was demonstrated in a game for the first time, we learnt a great deal about other countries and systems from DAO companions. In DA2 we given some specific details. But what can Cullen tell us for the lore expanding purpose? What is so unique about Cullen that makes him important? There is a plenty of sane and good willed templars. Based on his portrayal in DAO he seems just an average young man if more soft than others. Mage tower accident? Was there, saw it all. DA2 accident? Was there, saw it all. Unless he is suddenly given some terrible secret he doesn't look like an exciting companion to have.
I don't hate Cullen, I don't like him. He would make a perfect NPC. But companion or LI?
#146
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 06:01
Seekers are chosen from the best templars from what I readNowhere is it stated that Cassandra received Templar training.
#147
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 06:03
Showing disappointment in a certain companion choice is forbidden on this forum? So much for freedom of speech
At that moment the lore was demonstrated in a game for the first time, we learnt a great deal about other countries and systems from DAO companions. In DA2 we given some specific details. But what can Cullen tell us for the lore expanding purpose? What is so unique about Cullen that makes him important? There is a plenty of sane and good willed templars. Based on his portrayal in DAO he seems just an average young man if more soft than others. Mage tower accident? Was there, saw it all. DA2 accident? Was there, saw it all. Unless he is suddenly given some terrible secret he doesn't look like an exciting companion to have.
I don't hate Cullen, I don't like him. He would make a perfect NPC. But companion or LI?
Well, Cullen is unique in the sense he has seen both the mages and Templars at their worst in the forms of Uldred and Meredith respectively.
Also remember that as far as we know he is only a NPC so it's not like he is taking a companion slot.
#148
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 06:03
Give our blondie templar a chance bro... If you played Mass effect 1, Tali and Garrus weren't that interesting. In ME2, they turn out to be one of the favorites. Who knows? Maybe you will like Cullen in the third game.
Garrus became cooler then he was in ME1 but tali remained lame and boring imo.
#149
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 06:04
Seekers are chosen from the best templars from what I read
Not all Seekers come from the Templars though. They typically are, but not always. Cassandra is such an exception.
#150
Posté 17 avril 2014 - 06:05
A proof?Not all Seekers come from the Templars though. They typically are, but not always. Cassandra is such an exception.




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