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[llllDadallll]

Theory :

 

Morrigan lied about whatever was in the grimoires. Flemeth being a dragon never needed to possess daughters. Once you got the Circle Tower Grimoire, Morrigan came into infos concerning the old god soul or w/e and wanted more. However she realized Flemeth would never give it to her willingly, so she made up a story about possession, acted a lil' scared and sent the Warden, whom she knew Flemeth wouldn't go all out against. So the dummy warden goes to flemeth's hut, "slays" her and bring the grimoire back to Morrigan like a good little doggy. BAM, evil Morrigan now has all the knowledge Flemeth wouldn't let her have AND the old god baby, plus Flemeth herself is now out of the way for a while, leaving Morrigan free to go about her business with no threat to her whatsoever.

So you spent Dragon Age 1 helping the vilain achieve their goal...

 

 

The Blight? Just a sidequest.

[Engineer-59]

This would certainly be an... interesting twist. But I don't think the writers would do something like that.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Yeah flemeth is ultimate good that raised morrigan exactly what she was in dao because of her teaching it doesn't rly have sense...

 

so yeah flemeth who created morrigan is good and morrigan is bad because she follows what flemeth taught her wait wha?

[Ribosome]

ok

[TheForgottenOne]

I don't think Morrigan is evil. My theory is that She is messing up Flemeth's plans without truly understanding them.

Anyway making her evil will make a lot of Morrigan fans( also Morrigan/Warden fans) really angry. I feel Bioware won't do that.

[wcholcombe]

Except if you decide not to kill Flemeth she gives you the grimoire anyway.  I don't think either are the big bad in DAI or bad period.  I do believe they may play antagonistic roles to each other, or Morrigan may think she is thwarting her mother's plans when in reality she is just doing what Flemeth wanted her to do anyway.

[TheForgottenOne]

True that. Even if one of them (or both of them) are evil I don't think they are the big bad.

[katerinafm]

This theory reminds me of the Divinity series. In two of the three/four games you are unknowingly helping the bad guy all along.

 

I don't know if the writers would do something like that since Morrigan has a huge fanbase, but that would be an interesting twist. If she is a sort of 'villain', I don't think she'd be a simple one (evil for the sake of being evil, just seeking power, etc). While she is manipulating the Warden, doing the friendship path with her shows that she's not as harsh as she originally appears. If she ends up being evil, I hope she is still a very complex character and not just the bad guy you need to kill.

[Nefla]

If they had done something like that, it would have been foreshadowed/hinted at in DA:O, they wouldn't wait until the third game to reveal something like that because people would hate it as a retcon.

[azarhal]

Except if you decide not to kill Flemeth she gives you the grimoire anyway.  I don't think either are the big bad in DAI or bad period.  I do believe they may play antagonistic roles to each other, or Morrigan may think she is thwarting her mother's plans when in reality she is just doing what Flemeth wanted her to do anyway.

 

^this.

 

Flemeth hinted as much, but she also hinted that Morrigan was a fool and that suggest she will probably do something stupid in the future...

[wcholcombe]

If they had done something like that, it would have been foreshadowed/hinted at in DA:O, they wouldn't wait until the third game to reveal something like that because people would hate it as a retcon.

That I don't agree with.  The whole point of a really good plot twist is that you don't see it coming.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Cool. I'm siding with bad, then.

[Han Shot First]

^this.

 

Flemeth hinted as much, but she also hinted that Morrigan was a fool and that suggest she will probably do something stupid in the future...

 

I do wonder if Morrigan might turn out to be the cause of the veil tears in DA:I.

[Nefla]

That I don't agree with.  The whole point of a really good plot twist is that you don't see it coming.

No, that's an M. Night Shyamalan twist. The forshadowing should be subtle, you shouldn't be hit over the head with it, but you should be able to play through a second time after knowing the outcome and go "wow, I see it!" Unfortunately, BioWare doesn't really do subtle. The lowest common denominator must also be able to see and understand a plot point.

[Wolfen09]

Except if you decide not to kill Flemeth she gives you the grimoire anyway.  I don't think either are the big bad in DAI or bad period.  I do believe they may play antagonistic roles to each other, or Morrigan may think she is thwarting her mother's plans when in reality she is just doing what Flemeth wanted her to do anyway.

 

I always kill her, more experience

[Cobra's_back]

Yeah flemeth is ultimate good that raised morrigan exactly what she was in dao because of her teaching it doesn't rly have sense...

 

so yeah flemeth who created morrigan is good and morrigan is bad because she follows what flemeth taught her wait wha?

 

I agree. If you take Morrigan to the fade, she knows she is not in the fade because the fade demon didn't slap her enough. 

[spinachdiaper]

I'd rather believe my own crazy idea that Morrigan is Flemeth and that Flemeth/Morrigan is some kind of crazy magic entity that exists in many places in many forms and likes to play mind games with itself and others while seeking out more even power

[Wolfen09]

i didnt have a headache till i read that

[Xilizhra]

I don't think Morrigan will be the prime villain. It'd anger her fanbase far too much, and she never seems to be actively malevolent about pursuit of her own goals, even if she can make stupid evil suggestions from time to time.

[Chari]

Can't say I agree with this theory but generally - yeah, Flemeth always seems neutral or even good to me

[Halfdan The Menace]

If Morrigan was evil, she would have stabbed you on the bed like

Spoiler

Citra from Far Cry 3

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[BubbleDncr]

I could foresee Morrigan ending up being bad. But that would surprise me, because when you did befriend her in DA:O, she seemed genuinely sad about having to leave and all. BUt I guess she could just be a really good actress.

 

And to me, Flemeth is always two steps ahead of Morrigan. So if Morrigan actually was the bad guy...Flemeth would just crush her if she wanted to.

[BlueMagitek]

Hold on a moment, you mean the woman who tries to support every "negative" choice in the game, asks you to kill someone who saved your life and hasn't taken any harmful action against you (Flemeth), tells you about how she has caused other people to suffer in the past and will leave before the fight with the Archdemon, lessening Ferelden's chances of survival in the hope that you will fail and she can try her Dark Ritual with an Orlasian Warden is evil?  Inconceivable!

[foolishquinn]

Yeah flemeth is ultimate good that raised morrigan exactly what she was in dao because of her teaching it doesn't rly have sense...

so yeah flemeth who created morrigan is good and morrigan is bad because she follows what flemeth taught her wait wha?