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some new group name suggestions:
Cullen's5linesofdialogue - cullen is a fascinating DA character and has about 5 lines of dialogue that you can debate from now until the end of time.
The Playersexual Hanar - he puts the "player" in playersexual.
Kelly Chambers Feeds Your Fish - fanart of kelly chambers feeding your fish only. DO NOT TALK ABOUT YOUR DAY IN THIS GROUP.
Mabari RP group - like Call of the Wild, but with mabari.
some new group name suggestions:
Cullen's5linesofdialogue - cullen is a fascinating DA character and has about 5 lines of dialogue that you can debate from now until the end of time.
The Playersexual Hanar - he puts the "player" in playersexual.
Kelly Chambers Feeds Your Fish - fanart of kelly chambers feeding your fish only. DO NOT TALK ABOUT YOUR DAY IN THIS GROUP.
Mabari RP group - like Call of the Wild, but with mabari.
It's hilarious to me, by the way, that you would state that there are no bullies. I seem to recall a time when you and your friends followed me around and harassed me in every post I made. Without groups, who knows where I would've gotten away from you tools.
A poor display of self victimization. Good try though
I wasn't "harassing" you as you like to call it. I call out BS in whoever I see it in. I didn't purposely seek you out to interact with you. I simply called out your immature and condecsending conduct(which everyone accepted) when it was necessary(when you were clearly in the wrong).
I didn't like the fact that you got away with condescending behaviour whenever it was aroused against some people. Nobody every confronted you in any way. They excused it as "humor". They praised, applauded and hell even defended you when confronted by me all while you clearly being in the wrong. That's some loldoublestandard for ya!!
Tool? Oh the ironing
In time your "friends" stopped supporting your behaviour as you've recently experienced in our last confrontation. You picked a fight with me spouting silly condecsending low blows and lost with no support at your side. Even a good friend of your was on my side at the time.
It was hard to ignore your condescending grammar since it was in almost every thread. I never got away with those things. Were you any different?
Guest_JujuSamedi_*
We need ninja stan.
Don't summon him! He only returns to ban me
Guest_JujuSamedi_*
some new group name suggestions:
The Playersexual Hanar - he puts the "player" in playersexual.
My sides!
Guest_Catch This Fade_*
No, it makes perfect since.
If you want it to make no cents.
Fixed that for you. #INSIDEJOKE
*sigh* I regret this already.
One man's corrections, call-outs, snide comments are another persons trolling, harassment, and abuse.
Reality is, like it or not, it doesn't matter how you "mean" things; it matters how it comes across to recipient.
Behavior is the mirror in which everyone shows their image.
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For BioWare to make this decision the postings in these off-topic groups may have been more detrimental to the forum than the participants in these groups realize or are willing to admit.
If the behavior of many of those in this thread who feel threatened by this announcement is any indicator; it is a perhaps a good thing that BW is closing these off topic special interest groups.
Guest_JujuSamedi_*
I have a suggestion. It might be work but instead of deleting all groups(I know crazy) that are unrelated to bioware content in a quest to contain toxic communities why don't you work on a reorganization and isolate. This is what is known as a Kludge in software systems. A quick fix that is a temporary solution to a problem. Deleting all of your forum content will not make the problem go away. The fact of the matter is that it is not possible to predict the next topic that will be posted on the forums. What if that toxicity spills on to the other part of the forums?
I would recommend you refine your model and work on an isolation. Isolate the toxic community(in your words not mine) and then focus on developing your core non toxic features. Also I think this approach is somehow of a sweeping generalization I mean they have been constructive groups over the years. There has been a group about programming, there has been a group about Maths. If you are trying to build up a helpful community,removing features that could potentially be used for helping members of the community is a pretty bad move in my opinion. I would try and develop it instead.
I am really not buying the toxic community excuse myself cause some of it just does not make sense. This is similar to the last time when groups/polls and blogs were removed with the purpose of "enhancing user experience." However realistically this is the same experience I have received from both platforms of the software but just different layouts. Apart from the feed there is nothing here that I couldn't do on the old forums. I could even actually do more.
From my perspective, this is a thinly veiled traffic problem. I think the groups generate a lot of traffic and realistically non of that traffic has anything to do with bioware related content. I mean from your perspective why support content that does not mean anything to you right? Also if you look at the site, it does have user google analytics(I checked in the cookies) and it does not generate you any money. Keeping the website running is actually not benefiting you anything from a monetary perspective.
I personally think this website could be able to sustain itself if they had even small ad based revenue generated by impressions. This is just my guess but it is hard to give an opinion when I do not know what the infrastructure looks like.
I see the "MP" tension from people has fallen into here.
I have a suggestion. It might be work but instead of deleting all groups(I know crazy) that are unrelated to bioware content in a quest to contain toxic communities why don't you work on a reorganization and isolate. This is what is known as a Kludge in software systems. A quick fix that is a temporary solution to a problem. Deleting all of your forum content will not make the problem go away. The fact of the matter is that it is not possible to predict the next topic that will be posted on the forums. What if that toxicity spills on to the other part of the forums?
I would recommend you refine your model and work on an isolation. Isolate the toxic community(in your words not mine) and then focus on developing your core non toxic features. Also I think this approach is somehow of a sweeping generalization I mean they have been constructive groups over the years. There has been a group about programming, there has been a group about Maths. If you are trying to build up a helpful community,removing features that could potentially be used for helping members of the community is a pretty bad move in my opinion. I would try and develop it instead.
I am really not buying the toxic community excuse myself cause some of it just does not make sense. This is similar to the last time when groups/polls and blogs were removed with the purpose of "enhancing user experience." However realistically this is the same experience I have received from both platforms of the software but just different layouts. Apart from the feed there is nothing here that I couldn't do on the old forums. I could even actually do more.
From my perspective, this is a thinly veiled traffic problem. I think the groups generate a lot of traffic and realistically non of that traffic has anything to do with bioware related content. I mean from your perspective why support content that does not mean anything to you right? Also if you look at the site, it does have user google analytics(I checked in the cookies) and it does not generate you any money. Keeping the website running is actually not benefiting you anything from a monetary perspective.
I personally think this website could be able to sustain itself if they had even small ad based revenue generated by impressions. This is just my guess but it is hard to give an opinion when I do not know what the infrastructure looks like.
Behavior is the mirror in which everyone shows their image.
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For BioWare to make this decision the postings in these off-topic groups may have been more detrimental to the forum than the participants in these groups realize or are willing to admit.
If the behavior of many of those in this thread who feel threatened by this announcement is any indicator; it is a perhaps a good thing that BW is closing these off topic special interest groups.
I'd take this more seriously if it wasn't just a huge assumption.
Here guys, I'll GIF it out for you.
BSN:
BioWare:
EA:
largely off topic to BioWare games and the studio culture.
So, you dress up as dwarves every day and talk about running tests on seashells during lunch break?
Or what they could do is be like the battlefield forums where topics must be approved first before posted (no groups at all), or the cod forums where topics are limited to just one page (no groups at all), or Diablo forums where you have to be a premium member paying money to access certain areas of the forum.
Bioware has spoiled everyone with nice lollipops and now that they are taking some of them away and people want to cry about it.
Just be glad this forum even allows groups
I'm thankful for when the groups actually have something unique to offer as they do now, not for the redudancy they're about to be turned into.
Not sure if anyone noticed but......
The mods probably never intended to respond to anyone's questions regarding the new rules. No sane mod would take this level of heat. This thread only serves as a means of ventilation and it's doing a damn good job at it. I bet they'll wait till this thread is somewhat dead then lock it and that'll be the end of it.
Or what they could do is be like the battlefield forums where topics must be approved first before posted (no groups at all), or the cod forums where topics are limited to just one page (no groups at all), or Diablo forums where you have to be a premium member paying money to access certain areas of the forum.
Bioware has spoiled everyone with nice lollipops and now that they are taking some of them away and people want to cry about it.
Just be glad this forum even allows groups
Are you on the same BF forums I am? The titles with F-Bombs in them on the front page sometimes outnumber the ones without.
Or what they could do is be like the battlefield forums where topics must be approved first before posted (no groups at all), or the cod forums where topics are limited to just one page (no groups at all), or Diablo forums where you have to be a premium member paying money to access certain areas of the forum.
Bioware has spoiled everyone with nice lollipops and now that they are taking some of them away and people want to cry about it.
Just be glad this forum even allows groups
Yea, now we have to make groups of the same topics that go on over and over just like the main forum
That sounds fun
Not sure if anyone noticed cuz
The mods probably never intended to respond to anyone's questions regarding the new rules. No sane mod would take this level of heat. This thread only serves as a means of ventilation and it's doing a damn good job at it. I bet they'll wait till this thread is somewhat dead then lock it and that'll be the end of it.
Said almost the same thing on the previous page myself.
What people seem to be ignoring with the groups and finding a solution for adding additional pages or threads for the off topic section the fact that not everyone wants to talk to the entire forum, maybe a large group of people they know is all they want after the years of going through the games and discussion about them together. Hell the character threads on the old BSN alone were a testament to how like minded individuals just wanted to talk with some people more than others. Ignoring the old popularity contests those threads spawned groups of people that wanted to talk together on a daily basis on a large scale and Bioware provided that.
Bioware are now taking that away from them. They are taking away a place where a group of people can talk on a large enough scale for it to be still "friends" based, with the self governing of the groups and all, and are not even considering of putting something else in place.
Personally for me I am barely on the main forums, I stick to groups Clan Zorah and Clan Vakarian, because the people I care about talking with are there, they have similar interests and I have gotten to know them. Plus there is a massive drop in the risk of desaturation of interests because there is less people saying the same thing over, and over, and over, and over. Which is what the main forum becomes. If ME3 didn't have MP I think it's talking points would have dropped a long, long while ago. TThe same thing will happen with Inquisition. And the next ME game, and all games after that. Games discussion has a shelf life and Bioware is not getting that fact.
I have a suggestion. It might be work but instead of deleting all groups(I know crazy) that are unrelated to bioware content in a quest to contain toxic communities why don't you work on a reorganization and isolate. This is what is known as a Kludge in software systems. A quick fix that is a temporary solution to a problem. Deleting all of your forum content will not make the problem go away. The fact of the matter is that it is not possible to predict the next topic that will be posted on the forums. What if that toxicity spills on to the other part of the forums?
I would recommend you refine your model and work on an isolation. Isolate the toxic community(in your words not mine) and then focus on developing your core non toxic features. Also I think this approach is somehow of a sweeping generalization I mean they have been constructive groups over the years. There has been a group about programming, there has been a group about Maths. If you are trying to build up a helpful community,removing features that could potentially be used for helping members of the community is a pretty bad move in my opinion. I would try and develop it instead.
I am really not buying the toxic community excuse myself cause some of it just does not make sense. This is similar to the last time when groups/polls and blogs were removed with the purpose of "enhancing user experience." However realistically this is the same experience I have received from both platforms of the software but just different layouts. Apart from the feed there is nothing here that I couldn't do on the old forums. I could even actually do more.
From my perspective, this is a thinly veiled traffic problem. I think the groups generate a lot of traffic and realistically non of that traffic has anything to do with bioware related content. I mean from your perspective why support content that does not mean anything to you right? Also if you look at the site, it does have user google analytics(I checked in the cookies) and it does not generate you any money. Keeping the website running is actually not benefiting you anything from a monetary perspective.
I personally think this website could be able to sustain itself if they had even small ad based revenue generated by impressions. This is just my guess but it is hard to give an opinion when I do not know what the infrastructure looks like.
Guest_JujuSamedi_*
What people seem to be ignoring with the groups and finding a solution for adding additional pages or threads for the off topic section the fact that not everyone wants to talk to the entire forum, maybe a large group of people they know is all they want after the years of going through the games and discussion about them together. Hell the character threads on the old BSN alone were a testament to how like minded individuals just wanted to talk with some people more than others. Ignoring the old popularity contests those threads spawned groups of people that wanted to talk together on a daily basis on a large scale and Bioware provided that.
Bioware are now taking that away from them. They are taking away a place where a group of people can talk on a large enough scale for it to be still "friends" based, with the self governing of the groups and all, and are not even considering of putting something else in place.
You bring up a good example actually.The Character romance forums were toxic and what do you know? It was completely bioware related content.
What I am trying to say Jessica is that limiting the posts to a category or genre will not change the state of your forums. The users will not automatically "change" their ways and move into another domain. As long as you give these users a chance to use your platform they will still be here. The toxic nature will still exist. This is why you need to find a way to isolate this toxic environment that you speak of. It is not the service that the software provides but it is the culture behind the software.
Two different things at play.
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