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[Caineghis2500]

Lighten up, jeez.

He seems pretty calm to me. Say that to everyone else

[cato potato]

It was sarcasm seeing as some are coming up with outrageous assumptions about supremecy and such.

 

Supremacy? I must have missed that.

[cato potato]

He seems pretty calm to me. Say that to everyone else

 

Where did I write that he wasn't calm? To lighten up means to stop being so serious.

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

Cato, you told someone to "lighten up". Clearly that means they were all worked up and needed to calm down, not that they needed to stop being all angsty. #headknowlledge

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Out of curiosity, what does BioWare see as it's "culture"?

[Rusty Sandusky]

Out of curiosity, what does BioWare see as it's "culture"?

Romances and Cullen

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

Out of curiosity, what does BioWare see as it's "culture"?

Tali/Cullen playersexual genderbent fanfic that involves copious amounts of cinnamon-flavored sweat.

[DrunkenRonin]

People need other outlets of social approach than the strict on topic method. It gets boring and flat out feels a bit martial on your social freedom. It goes against the very thing that keeps most of you here...

 

 

Most of you have gotten waaaay too comfy and attached with the social freedom given by bioware ESPECIALLY the ME 3 MP community.

 

This opening actually cuts to the core of it, but unfortunately you followed with your thoughts on the proper amount of social freedom.

 

Aside from Bioware's actions, your personal opinion that people are too "comfy" being able freely express their thoughts and ideas to their friends and acquaintances on a social site is a touch megalomaniacal. It is clear you personally believe there is too much freedom. I can't fathom wishing constraints on the thoughts of others or standing for any impediment in their right to voice them. I don't know why, but you single out the Mp as a focus of this horrifically rampant "social freedom".  Your animus towards Mp in particular seems driven by an underlying personal issues, perhaps toward certain people and groups that comprise part of the the forums. Your personal feelings clearly override your prior logical judgement that the reason people are here and still play Mp 2 years in, is due to their friends and the community. 

 

This site is a GAME forum at it's core.

 

I had no idea. I thought everybody was here for the grills and the theoretical dissertation level discussions on the merits and demerits of the wide assortment of pixelated asses.

 

The offtopic vs ontopic ratio is about 80/20 and should be the other way around.I think bioware is attempting to shift the focus of this forum back to the games and not so much the gamers. 

 

The best facts manage to be completely made up and pulled directly out of the ass at the same time. 

 

I've realized that these social groups have made a moderate/huge impact on many on a personal level so I can show a level of empathy in that regard.

"a level of empathy" right either you feel something or you don't. Disingenuous and fraudulent at best, craven at worst. "real recognize real and you ain't looking familiar." Tbh you're kinda looking like Drake.

 

I blame Bioware for most people's attachment though. They gave too much freedom.

 

Freedom of the people is obviously the source of the problem.  The source of the attachment is their mutual interest and affection for the various games and universes created. That was the seed from which it grew. The forum merely provided a place for us to gather, discuss, and enjoy each other's company. Of course real bonds are gradually formed and friendships forged as a result of this viral "social freedom". I cannot reason how this is considered a negative or a cause for a purge and suppression. 

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You attempted to express your points from a position of neutrality as if you were above the fray. However the subsequent contradictions, outright fabrications, and fallacies that were riddled throughout always favored and tacitly cheered the purge for reasons that appear personal and vindictive at their core. Still a compelling read though;  a mix of arrogance, incoherence, phony sympathy, sycophantic mewling, bad logic, and worse reasoning. In fact the only thing I've read recently that mirrored its duplicity was the announcement of the forum change which preceded it.

 

Who is more contemptible? Those who would crush the free will, expression, and joy of others because their masters deemed it unsuitable and inconvenient; or the person who advocates for such suppression while gloating in the dark corners of his mind at the distress it causes those he dislikes. Who knows.They both are lost, and they will both fail in their designs; bereft of heart and soul they cannot shatter what they did not make and will never possess. 

 

 

Unbridled Fire. Unbreakable Wings. Unfadable Souls. Shine on. Never Change.

 

 

 

ps: Apologies all dis effort was supposed to go toward a paper, but the rabid idiocy and despotic douchery which unfolded today irritated me to the point it was diverted here. No regrets, go all night.  Peace + Love to my extended bsn brothers and sisters.

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

That is some AAA nerd wrecking right there.

[Ohnenick]

Ok, having slept over it, I can approach this from a more reasonable viewpoint.

I can see that when Bioware was a small, upcoming company, they had a dream about having a special relationship with their customers. This lead to the idea of creating a platform that provided more than just gaming support. And because they made really good games, people congregated on that platform and its various reincarnations.

This philosophy lead to many of Biowares customers becoming fans in the most positive sense of the word. Those fans invested a staggering amount of their time in things related to Bioware and their games and - thanks to the idea behind their policy and the social aspect related to it - I now am privileged to call a few of them my friends.

Now Bioware isn't small or upcoming anymore and - be it because of EA, be it because of harsh business realities - like so many other companies before it, the dream it started out with gets revised in the face of bottom line business realities (Google anyone?). That may have advantages for some people and it may have disadvantages for others, namely those fans I talked about.

At the end, it won't make me stop buying games as long as they are good and it won't stop most of the people I know from investing time in their games, imo. What it will definitively do is stop more people becoming fans instead of customers. Is that a good thing? I don't know, I just can say that without the social aspect I never would have played ME3 MP for 2 years (and spent real money on packs).

What really annoys me is that nobody has the stones of stating the fact that Bioware is not interested in providing a social site anymore. Instead we get "it is for the improvement of the BSN/TBF experience" lines wrapped in corporate PR. Nobody even half knowledgeable in public relations would have pulled off what Jessica Merizan has pulled off over the last year concerning this site without realizing it would gall a lot of people. That things happened like they did leaves the conclusion that it was intenional.

So why the smoke screen? Why not just say "Sorry, it was a good ride with you, but our priorities have shifted and we can't afford this anymore. It's not you, it's us. And while we regret it, we hope that it will help our company prosper which in turn means more good games we produce for you."

THAT message I would have regretted, but not raged over.

Tl;dr: Just needed to get things of my chest. You don't need to read it all. I feel better alreay.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

It's about time Bioware took back control of the asylum.  A select few posters have ruled this forum for over 2 years. I'm glad it's going to get back to being a forum about the games again not a social club for a select few.  With new games in the works this is a very good thing for the site.   

 

parico!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Romances and Cullen

 

See that's what I'm wondering. 

 

Beyond pissing on potential spotfires with regards to non-BioWare approved opinions and cutting back on services/members to reduce overhead, I think one of the goals is to return BioWare Forums to pre-BSN Bioboards state. I've seen the sentiment expressed from Priestly, Woo and Gaider. Not that it's a goal, but that they yearn for the old days when the forums weren't so mean and toxic (y'know, nostalgia).

 

But that ship has long sailed, and one of the major reasons of that is due to the change in demographics caused by the change in BioWare's approach to games. Honestly, I hope that it is not a stated end-goal of BioWare's actions and rather just a pleasant possible side effect of the changes.

 

It'd be pretty moronic to think BioWare could go back to a forum environment of D&D nerds and roleplayers when they aren't making niche PC exclusive D&D games for nerds who love text anymore. They're making AAA cinematic cover shooters/action RPGs which may have multiplayer and are decidedly anti-text.

 

Oh well, it is what it is. And now I have a reason to ditch my Let's Plays without feeling guilty. 

[StoxRegalia]

I wasn't aware you owned this site or that I required your permission.   The truth may hurt and Bioware is smart to clean up the groups and forums.  All that spectre nonsense and trolling elitist crap they allowed was stupid.   I was checking on inquisition anyway.   I don't play ME3 nor do I really intend to again so no reason to be here.

Damn. You're still butthurt about the spectre stuff?

[Lady Abstract]

Why is everyone acting like bioware is shutting down the forums? Its not like they are banning groups period they are limiting it a bit. They are limiting it to game discussion only. I dont see a problem. There are alot of Mass Effect groups on Facebook and alot of them have people from the forums whether its from the Dragon Age Section, Mass Effect Story Mode section, or the Mass Effect Multiplayer section. There are other and better ways to communicate off topic things other than the bioware forums (Facebook). I understand that you all are friends but you can bond and connect better on other social sites that are meant to be social sites, To be honest, most gaming forums dont even allow groups, Its strictly a forum. I could be wrong but i think Bioware is the only gaming forum that actually allows groups. If im wrong post a link to those sites, thank you.

 

Also, I like Drake his songs where hes singing are very laid back and mellow (most of the time)

[Supremocognito]

Biower, bringing people together through mutual hatred of policies™

We need a dislike bar to solve this!

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

Biower, bringing people together through mutual hatred of policies™

Disliked for unchecked privilege theme

[ZombieOberyn]

they are limiting it a bit

I don't think banning everything not related to Bioware is "a bit". Remember when this place used to be called Bioware Social Network which would suggest people could discuss or relate to common interests other than BW games?
 

So apparently there is too much off-topic stuff, yet the majority of the "on-topic" stuff which was accurately described by Pearl's earlier post is somehow better?

[Caineghis2500]

This opening actually cuts to the core of it, but unfortunately you followed with your thoughts on the proper amount of social freedom.

Aside from Bioware's actions, your personal opinion that people are too "comfy" being able freely express their thoughts and ideas to their friends and acquaintances on a social site is a touch megalomaniacal. It is clear you personally believe there is too much freedom. I can't fathom wishing constraints on the thoughts of others or standing for any impediment in their right to voice them. I don't know why, but you single out the Mp as a focus of this horrifically rampant "social freedom". Your animus towards Mp in particular seems driven by an underlying personal issues, perhaps toward certain people and groups that comprise part of the the forums. Your personal feelings clearly override your prior logical judgement that the reason people are here and still play Mp 2 years in, is due to their friends and the community.



I had no idea. I thought everybody was here for the grills and the theoretical dissertation level discussions on the merits and demerits of the wide assortment of pixelated asses.


"a level of empathy" right either you feel something or you don't. Disingenuous and fraudulent at best, craven at worst. "real recognize real and you ain't looking familiar." Tbh you're kinda looking like Drake.



Freedom of the people is obviously the source of the problem. The source of the attachment is their mutual interest and affection for the various games and universes created. That was the seed from which it grew. The forum merely provided a place for us to gather, discuss, and enjoy each other's company. Of course real bonds are gradually formed and friendships forged as a result of this viral "social freedom". I cannot reason how this is considered a negative or a cause for a purge and suppression.
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You attempted to express your points from a position of neutrality as if you were above the fray. However the subsequent contradictions, outright fabrications, and fallacies that were riddled throughout always favored and tacitly cheered the purge for reasons that appear personal and vindictive at their core. Still a compelling read though; a mix of arrogance, incoherence, phony sympathy, sycophantic mewling, bad logic, and worse reasoning. In fact the only thing I've read recently that mirrored its duplicity was the announcement of the forum change which preceded it.

Who is more contemptible? Those who would crush the free will, expression, and joy of others because their masters deemed it unsuitable and inconvenient; or the person who advocates for such suppression while gloating in the dark corners of his mind at the distress it causes those he dislikes. Who knows.They both are lost, and they will both fail in their designs; bereft of heart and soul they cannot shatter what they did not make and will never possess.


Unbridled Fire. Unbreakable Wings. Unfadable Souls. Shine on. Never Change.



ps: Apologies all dis effort was supposed to go toward a paper, but the rabid idiocy and despotic douchery which unfolded today irritated me to the point it was diverted here. No regrets, go all night. Peace + Love to my extended bsn brothers and sisters.

Very well written I must say really and wish you all the best on your paper

I'll be brief

You've made some false assumptions and misinterpretations on my motives behind my comment

I'm very much on the neutral side of the matter. I'm not pro or anti Bioware at this point. I understand why most here are upset as I've mentioned already but I won't cry about it either. You misinterpreted that too as being fake while secretly cheering bioware or something. Wat?

I don't have a personal issue with anyone here. No one here has done anything to me that'll cause me to secretly hold resentment.

You don't sense my empathy? Do you have to? I was being honest. That's pretty much it

I don't have anything against social freedom. Where did you get that from dude? I was completely honest with my response. You just misinterpreted some things while thrusting many assumptions simultaneously out of your ass repeatedly. It must hurt

Compared to other game forums where there aren't any groups and threads need approval, that's restriction.

Only time will tell if this was a bad move on a part of Bioware. I remain neutral as always

I don't see any "smack down" being delivered on your part dude. wtf?!?

[Susty Randusky]

ON MY WORST BEHAVIOR. NO. THEY USED TO NEVER WANNA HEAR US. REMEMBER? BIOWER NEVER LOVED US.

[Susty Randusky]

See that's what I'm wondering. 
 
Beyond pissing on potential spotfires with regards to non-BioWare approved opinions and cutting back on services/members to reduce overhead, I think one of the goals is to return BioWare Forums to pre-BSN Bioboards state. I've seen the sentiment expressed from Priestly, Woo and Gaider. Not that it's a goal, but that they yearn for the old days when the forums weren't so mean and toxic (y'know, nostalgia).
 
But that ship has long sailed, and one of the major reasons of that is due to the change in demographics caused by the change in BioWare's approach to games. Honestly, I hope that it is not a stated end-goal of BioWare's actions and rather just a pleasant possible side effect of the changes.
 
It'd be pretty moronic to think BioWare could go back to a forum environment of D&D nerds and roleplayers when they aren't making niche PC exclusive D&D games for nerds who love text anymore. They're making AAA cinematic cover shooters/action RPGs which may have multiplayer and are decidedly anti-text.
 
Oh well, it is what it is. And now I have a reason to ditch my Let's Plays without feeling guilty. 

They Started from the Bottom now they here. Started from the Bottom now the whole forums fuckin' here

[Lady Abstract]

I don't think banning everything not related to Bioware is "a bit". Remember when this place used to be called Bioware Social Network which would suggest people could discuss or relate to common interests other than BW games?
 

So apparently there is too much off-topic stuff, yet the majority of the "on-topic" stuff which was accurately described by Pearl's earlier post is somehow better?

 

Yes it was a social network but now its turning into a typical gaming forum hence the forum.bioware and not social.bioware. Most gaming forums dont have groups at all. They may be trying to get their forum to look more like a forum. My guess is that they are trying to look more professional. If you go on other forums most of the gaming forums look just like this

 

I feel that compared to other gaming developers, bioware seems more "for the people" than any other gaming developing company out there

[Susty Randusky]

Very well written I must say really and wish you all the best on your paper

I'll be brief

You've made some false assumptions and misinterpretations on my motives behind my comment

I'm very much on the neutral side of the matter. I'm not pro or anti Bioware at this point. I understand why most here are upset as I've mentioned already. You misinterpreted that too as being fake while secretly cheering bioware or something. Wat?

I don't have a personal issue with anyone here. No one here has done anything to me that'll cause me to secretly hold resentment.

You don't sense my empathy? Do you have to? I was being honest. That's pretty much it

I don't have anything against social freedom. Where did you get that from dude? I was completely honest with my response. You just misinterpreted some things and assumed things out of your ass repeatedly. It must hurt

I don't see any "smack down" being delivered on your part dude. wtf?!?

That's some legit Head Knowlledge

[cato potato]

Very well written I must say really and wish you all the best on your paper

I'll be brief

You've made some false assumptions and misinterpretations on my motives behind my comment

I'm very much on the neutral side of the matter. I'm not pro or anti Bioware at this point. I understand why most here are upset as I've mentioned already but I won't cry about it either. You misinterpreted that too as being fake while secretly cheering bioware or something. Wat?

I don't have a personal issue with anyone here. No one here has done anything to me that'll cause me to secretly hold resentment.

You don't sense my empathy? Do you have to? I was being honest. That's pretty much it

I don't have anything against social freedom. Where did you get that from dude? I was completely honest with my response. You just misinterpreted some things and assumed things out of your ass repeatedly. It must hurt

Compared to other game forums where there aren't any groups and threads need approval, that's restriction.

Only time will tell if this was a bad move on a part of Bioware. I remain neutral as always

I don't see any "smack down" being delivered on your part dude. wtf?!?

 

You can add neutral to the very long list of words you don't know the meaning of, caine.

Either that or you're being a duplicitous gobshite.......as usual.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

They Started from the Bottom now they here. Started from the Bottom now the whole forums fuckin' here

 

Song's stuck in my head now. It's like I'm putting my head into a meat grinder.

 

Thanks.

[Caineghis2500]

You can add neutral to the very long list of words you don't know the meaning of, caine.
Either that or you're being a duplicitous gobshite.......as usual.

Neither. I have no reason to be deceitful and I see no reason why you need to insult me either.