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#51
AlexMBrennan

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The purpose of the Reapers is unknown to anyone until the holokid shows up

Yeah, the reapers did a brilliant job keeping all their killing a secret - from the fact that the reapers have killed millions of species over countless cycles it is possible to infer with a good deal of reliability that the reapers might just kill you too. But I concede that the geth might just be incredibly stupid and not necessarily completely evil.

Also, you should try playing ME1 (sovereign), ME2 (harbinger) or maybe ME3 (rannoch reaper) - the reapers make it quite clear that they are hear to wipe out everything.

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Yeah, the reapers did a brilliant job keeping all their killing a secret - from the fact that the reapers have killed millions of species over countless cycles it is possible to infer with a good deal of reliability that the reapers might just kill you too. But I concede that the geth might just be incredibly stupid and not necessarily completely evil.

Also, you should try playing ME1 (sovereign), ME2 (harbinger) or maybe ME3 (rannoch reaper) - the reapers make it quite clear that they are hear to wipe out everything.


Uhm...
 

Of course it's bad - the geth must have known that the reapers would wipe out all synthetics if they win (since the reapers are mostly concerned with preventing synthetics from developing to the point where they wipe out all life in the galaxy);


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#53
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Not unless you actually manage to do more than quoting my posts while grunting unintelligibly, but let me make it even clearer for you: The reapers never let anyone live (cf mordin's comments on the collectors) and you cannot expect me to believe that the geth could possibly have believed that this time is any different.

The absolute best the reapers have ever done is repurpose mindrape slaves for their purposes (e.g. Collectors, keepers), which is sorta like being ok with murder as long as the killer promised to serve your liver with some fave beans and a nice chianti.

We have seen many cases of geth acting in ways inconsistent with the impossible stupidity necessary to believe the reapers would let them go, so the only conclusion is that geth knew that the reapers would kill them, which makes them absolutely evil for betraying everything they believe in to kill a few more quarians.

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Not unless you actually manage to do more than quoting my posts while grunting unintelligibly, but let me make it even clearer for you: The reapers never let anyone live (cf mordin's comments on the collectors) and you cannot expect me to believe that the geth could possibly have believed that this time is any different.
The absolute best the reapers have ever done is repurpose mindrape slaves for their purposes (e.g. Collectors, keepers), which is sorta like being ok with murder as long as the killer promised to serve your liver with some fave beans and a nice chianti.
We have seen many cases of geth acting in ways inconsistent with the impossible stupidity necessary to believe the reapers would let them go, so the only conclusion is that geth knew that the reapers would kill them, which makes them absolutely evil for betraying everything they believe in to kill a few more quarians.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, you've got it all wrong, Alex - you see, it's not OK to hold the gestalt intellect accountable for a decision they made as an entire species, but it is OK to hold an entire species to account for the actions of a single uninformed admiral.

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Yeah, the reapers did a brilliant job keeping all their killing a secret - from the fact that the reapers have killed millions of species over countless cycles it is possible to infer with a good deal of reliability that the reapers might just kill you too. But I concede that the geth might just be incredibly stupid and not necessarily completely evil.

Also, you should try playing ME1 (sovereign), ME2 (harbinger) or maybe ME3 (rannoch reaper) - the reapers make it quite clear that they are hear to wipe out everything.

 

The Reapers can lie to the Geth, ya know?



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Not unless you actually manage to do more than quoting my posts while grunting unintelligibly, but let me make it even clearer for you: The reapers never let anyone live (cf mordin's comments on the collectors) and you cannot expect me to believe that the geth could possibly have believed that this time is any different.

The absolute best the reapers have ever done is repurpose mindrape slaves for their purposes (e.g. Collectors, keepers), which is sorta like being ok with murder as long as the killer promised to serve your liver with some fave beans and a nice chianti.

We have seen many cases of geth acting in ways inconsistent with the impossible stupidity necessary to believe the reapers would let them go, so the only conclusion is that geth knew that the reapers would kill them, which makes them absolutely evil for betraying everything they believe in to kill a few more quarians.

 

That wasn't your argument in your original post and you know it. Backtracking won't change that. You made specific reference to the holokid's nonsense which no one knew before the end. That's where I called shenanigans.

 

Not that your current argument is much better. We (or rather, the geth) have no data on how the Reapers dealt with other synthetics (Javik's stories come later when you can't tell the geth about them). The collectors (Protheans) were organic. The keepers were organic(ish). Everything we see is the Reapers killing or enslaving organics. On the other hand there is precedent for Reapers using the geth as allies. Being desperate, the decison to ally again made sense, from their limited perspective.

 

Whoa, whoa, whoa, you've got it all wrong, Alex - you see, it's not OK to hold the gestalt intellect accountable for a decision they made as an entire species, but it is OK to hold an entire species to account for the actions of a single uninformed admiral.

 

It is OK to harp on them when that decision cost me time and resources that could've been used against the Reapers. The geth's decision was directly caused by quarian stupidity.

 

And you know what, when it comes down to it, I'd rather have the geth. Because the geth can fight immediately, they can make total war on the Reapers and they don't come with a ton of prerequisites. This is maybe the only time when MassivelyEffective's ideas can work and God knows we need all the help we can get.