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On my 2nd playthrough of all 3 games to do nearly all DLC and extended cut ending and just finished Citadel last night with Miranda love interest. That last scene just before they get on the Normandy where Shepard and Miranda go their separate ways after talking about how they've had "a good run"....so much foreshadowing and just made me sad.
While I can see that it's the tragic ending that enhances this scene I still wish there was some way to have a happy ME3 ending. Sigh.
If you play on the PC there is always the Mass Effect Happy Ending Mod (MEHEM).
MEHEM The Mass Effect 3 Happy Ending Mod at Mass Effect 3 Nexus - Mods and community
I'd say the ending where Shepard lives and the LI doesn't put his/her name on the memorial wall is a happy ending. Bioware confirmed Shepard lives and plus you can use your imagination, that's what I do.
Aman_19: Well, that's a happy ending of Shepard for sure. IMO, a happy ending for the whole galaxy is Synthesis. It's how you/the player interpret the consenquences and what are your believes.
MEHEM is quite crappy though.
It's fundamentally limited as a fan-project, but it does what it sets out to do and does it well considering inherent limitations.
All it does is remove all of the controversial/contradicting/plot breaking stuff involving the Decision Chamber and Star-Child and then gives the player a happy, triumphant and conclusive ending. Even it's creator admitted that the MEHEM ending wouldn't be his personally preferred ending (I believe he prefers a Dark Energy themed ending), but the MEHEM is good for what it is. Just like the EC was good despite only being able to do so much to fix the ending.
Aman_19: Well, that's a happy ending of Shepard for sure. IMO, a happy ending for the whole galaxy is Synthesis. It's how you/the player interpret the consenquences and what are your believes.
Please don't open that can of worms... again.
MEHEM is quite crappy though.
It plays to the lowest common denominator. That is, happy ever after and enjoy your headcanon from there on. It's marginally better than high EMS Destroy, in that it shows you what was implied before, but by doing that, it also takes some of the magic away. I liked the wall scene... before I figured out it was just Synthesis ending in different color palette.
Everything leading to it is just... dubious, to put it politically correct. So yeah, I agree with you.
Aman_19: Well, that's a happy ending of Shepard for sure. IMO, a happy ending for the whole galaxy is Synthesis. It's how you/the player interpret the consenquences and what are your believes.
It plays to the lowest common denominator. That is, happy ever after and enjoy your headcanon from there on. It's marginally better than high EMS Destroy, in that it shows you what was implied before, but by doing that, it also takes some of the magic away. I liked the wall scene... before I figured out it was just Synthesis ending in different color palette.
Everything leading to it is just... dubious, to put it politically correct. So yeah, I agree with you.
Yeah clearly triumphant endings with clarity and closure are terrible...
wait... 
On my 2nd playthrough of all 3 games to do nearly all DLC and extended cut ending and just finished Citadel last night with Miranda love interest. That last scene just before they get on the Normandy where Shepard and Miranda go their separate ways after talking about how they've had "a good run"....so much foreshadowing and just made me sad.
While I can see that it's the tragic ending that enhances this scene I still wish there was some way to have a happy ME3 ending. Sigh.
Yeah kinda sad how such a light, happy farewell to the crew makes the endings that much more bitter.
Hmmm I didn't know there was such contention about a happier ending (or that there's a mod). I've been avoiding all forums until I could sit down and finish with the extended cut ending. Completed this afternoon. Have to say that after 2 years since I finished it the first time this ending is better in that it at least explains the aftermath.
I guess I can live with the Bioware endings (to the extent that the 3-choice ending can be lived with in the first place). It's just tough to be a Miranda fan in general (given that she's all cameo in ME3) and knowing that Citadel parting scene was it for all time...well...(more sighing).
P.S. I chose destroy. I figure since Shepard broke the cycle whose to say the next generation won't.
It plays to the lowest common denominator. That is, happy ever after and enjoy your headcanon from there on. It's marginally better than high EMS Destroy, in that it shows you what was implied before, but by doing that, it also takes some of the magic away. I liked the wall scene... before I figured out it was just Synthesis ending in different color palette.
Everything leading to it is just... dubious, to put it politically correct. So yeah, I agree with you.
Yeah that happy ending. With starvation and disease rife. The odds against the quarians and turians fleets living long enough to reach a system with food they can eat.
Dear god you are right. Shepard and the crew meeting back up solves all of that. How did I never see it before 
Seriously though I don't understand why people don't at least like the idea of the MEHEM. It doesn't instantly cure the galaxy of all ills just because Shepard gets back on the Normandy. If we are to speculate on events with Bioware's endings, then why is that not allowed with a fan made one?
Back on topic though. I did feel a lot of heart strings being pulled with The Citadel DLC ending. I not too long ago got to play through with a Thane romance and by lord that made a few tears well up. Honestly if I had to pick the best written moment of Mass Effect 3, the ending of The Citadel DLC would be it.
"Oh, come on now. I know you. You'll find a way to win, and when you do, I'll be waiting for you."
"Oh, come on now. I know you. You'll find a way to win, and when you do, I'll be waiting for you."
The Cycle has repeated itself more that you can possibly imagine. Rudamentory Creatures of flesh and b
On my 2nd playthrough of all 3 games to do nearly all DLC and extended cut ending and just finished Citadel last night with Miranda love interest. That last scene just before they get on the Normandy where Shepard and Miranda go their separate ways after talking about how they've had "a good run"....so much foreshadowing and just made me sad.
While I can see that it's the tragic ending that enhances this scene I still wish there was some way to have a happy ME3 ending. Sigh.
Yep. Citadel DLC was a masterpiece.
And don't worry. Shepard and pals will be back.
What does N7 mean to you????
The Cycle has repeated itself more that you can possibly imagine. Rudamentory Creatures of flesh and blood you touch my mind. You evolve along the paths we desire.
The paths are open... You must choose. Choose Wisely.
Yep. Citadel DLC was a masterpiece.
And don't worry. Shepard and pals will be back.
What does N7 mean to you????
I would think it was obvious Citadel was meant to end on a pretty optimistic note.
The tone of the squadmate is "I know you'll get through this." Not "The end of the road is near, so we better enjoy what we have." You have stuff like Jack giving Shepard and tattoo and commenting about pulling him out of rubble. An awful lot of comments on what Shepard will be doing in the future.
Yeah that happy ending. With starvation and disease rife. The odds against the quarians and turians fleets living long enough to reach a system with food they can eat.
Dear god you are right. Shepard and the crew meeting back up solves all of that. How did I never see it before
It's a ray of hope against what would otherwise be a very bleak prognosis. And as Mordin said in the second game, it's hard to picture the entire galaxy... too impersonal. We have a character we(supposedly) emotionally invested in(Shepard) with the person that(probably) means the most the them(their LI) and we see they are happy, at least for the moment. That's what matters right now.
Sure, there will be strife, misery and who knows what else. But it leaves you with a hope that yes, things are good right now and can change for better. We've been through so much already and we don't know what will happen.
"The clock is running. Make the most of today. Time waits for no man. Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why it is called the present."
A romantic notion? Certainly. Perhaps even a tad of a foolish one. But it works for me.
I can't tell if this is a good thing or bad thing, but knowing the approved endings it's tough to replay ME3 without viewing the whole thing through a melancholy lens. It's the main reason why it took me since release to come back to this series recently even knowing the EC expanded on the ending. Citadel was a welcome break from that, but of course the irony is that Citadel maybe wouldn't be as poignant without a certain background of finality in the main story.
I really think a lot of people missed the point entirely with the Mass Effect Endings. What Bioware did was create a dimensional paradox with Shepard at the end. There were 4 different outcomes possible. 5 if you subscribe to the Indoctrination Theory. All of which created a cascading stream of alternate and parallel universes, timelines and possibilities for the future, past or any moment in time and space. This was not a typical 50,000 year Reaper reboot. This was the changing of everything. A complete reset if you will. In such an aftermath, Miranda and Shepard could renew their past relationship via a resurrection of Clone Shepard from DLC. Both Miranda and Shepard were nothing but human engineered life anyway. And Bioware can literally plot an enormous range of plotlines and DLCs from the intentional and intriguing ambiguity left open by ME Trilogy.
I don't think there was a lot of ambiguity with Bioware's endings. Pre-EC every ending results in a galactic dark age. Post-EC it results in whatever the ending slides say.
As for Indoctrination Theory, that was never anything more than the head canon of a few fans who either didn't care for the original endings or the post-EC endings. It is the equivalent of MEHEM.
I really think a lot of people missed the point entirely with the Mass Effect Endings. What Bioware did was create a dimensional paradox with Shepard at the end. There were 4 different outcomes possible. 5 if you subscribe to the Indoctrination Theory. All of which created a cascading stream of alternate and parallel universes, timelines and possibilities for the future, past or any moment in time and space. This was not a typical 50,000 year Reaper reboot. This was the changing of everything. A complete reset if you will. In such an aftermath, Miranda and Shepard could renew their past relationship via a resurrection of Clone Shepard from DLC. Both Miranda and Shepard were nothing but human engineered life anyway. And Bioware can literally plot an enormous range of plotlines and DLCs from the intentional and intriguing ambiguity left open by ME Trilogy.
Mac Walters is not Steven Moffat. Mass Effect is not Doctor Who. Commander Shepard is not a Time Lord.
Mac Walters is not Steven Moffat. Mass Effect is not Doctor Who. Commander Shepard is not a Time Lord.
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