746 réponses à ce sujet

[Master Warder Z_]

I disagree.

 

Good for you.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Comparing human to elve is wrong because elf have pointed ears...

No, that is a valid comparison since both are organisms.

[EmissaryofLies]

Good for you.

 

That's not true. 

 

What is good for me is entirely subjective in and of itself. What's good for Thedas on the other hand is entirely objective. You cannot disagree, mathematics prove your assertions to be untrue. 

[Master Warder Z_]

That's not true. 

 

What is good for me is entirely subjective in and of itself. What's good for Thedas on the other hand is entirely objective.

 

.-. Subjectivity and Objectivity are themselves matters of perspective

 

 

You cannot disagree, mathematics prove your assertions to be untrue. 

 

They really don't.

[Cobra's_back]

As i said some do some not but i explained why attachment is dangerous especially for mage.And if there was nuke person i doubt that person would have same "rights" as you or me.

 

It isn't even about police attacks it is about interrogation and beating during them which isn't up to individual it is encouraged method to force someone to admit being guilty.Well do you know that that country can force you to serve in army and won't care if you like it or not?    

 

Well you can have rights on paper doesn't mean that goverment will care about them and won't broke it.

 

The draft is legal and doesn't conflict with the Bill of Rights. It was always there. If you don't want to talk to the police, you can state you want to see a lawyer. They have to give one to you. They can't hold you without a charge belong a time limit. You have to be charge and then allowed to get a lawyer. If they beat you and you can prove it you can take them to court. 

 

As for a magic person: I would say that they would set them up in their own community and watch them. That removes them for the general population. The Templars are still actively patrolling. The only thing that changes is that you give the majority the reason to want a stable environment. 

[Lillian]

 

Comparing human to elve is wrong because elf have pointed ears...

 

sure mages are alive nukes not but both can inflict massive damage by exploding (in mages case figuratively) so danger is smiliar well in mages case even bigger.

First of all, elves and humans produce fertile offspring. If they're not the same species, then they're very, very close relatives. Second of all, don't even bring that into the discussion. We're not talking about elves and humans. We're talking about mages and the implications of their freedom.

 

Third of all, you don't seem to see that mages are capable of something other than destruction. The school of creation, for example, focuses on healing and nature. A mage specialized in creation can do a lot of good, and spirit healers can as well.

[EmissaryofLies]

.-. Subjectivity and Objectivity are themselves matters of perspective

 

 

 

They really don't.

 

There are no perspectives. 

 

 

There is only mathematics. Why do you believe the Qunari are so strong? Why do you believe the Magisters can stand their ground against them?

 

 

Mathematical equations. 

[Divine Justinia V]

I read that in Morgan Freeman's voice. 

 

This pleased me more than it should.

 

 

and EOL stop, I'm out of likes!

[Cobra's_back]

._.

 

You have a bunch of misconceptions about Dragon Age don't you?

 

There aren't Juries, there aren't Lawyers.

 

We are still in the era of a Lord passing Judgement and his voice being the voice of law and god.

 

Sorry, no I don't. When I stated this we were not talking about Dragon Age. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

No, that is a valid comparison since both are organisms.

 

But there is a diffrence and as we know if there is a diffrence we can't compare well at least by logic some peoples here.

 

mages and nukes are danger for the world so well...

[EmissaryofLies]

But there is a diffrence and as we know if there is a diffrence we can't compare well at least by logic some peoples here.

 

mages and nukes are danger for the world so well...

 

That's not universally true. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Sorry, no I don't. When I stated this we were not talking about Dragon Age. 

 

Actually we were, this was response to your query about what advantages a mage ruler would have over normal men.

[Divine Justinia V]

But there is a diffrence and as we know if there is a diffrence we can't compare well at least by logic some peoples here.

 

mages and nukes are danger for the world so well...

 

no.

[TheKomandorShepard]

The draft is legal and doesn't conflict with the Bill of Rights. It was always there. If you don't want to talk to the police, you can state you want to see a lawyer. They have to give one to you. They can't hold you without a charge belong a time limit. You have to be charge and then allowed to get a lawyer. If they beat you and you can prove it you can take them to court. 

 

As for a magic person: I would say that they would set them up in their own community and watch them. That removes them for the general population. The Templars are still actively patrolling. The only thing that changes is that you give the majority the reason to want a stable environment. 

Yeah theory don't equal practice well i can show you on example for renegade shepard in mass effect 2...

 

hah yeah stable you mean like now stable with abomnations and disasters sponsored by mages good luck with that...

 

First of all, elves and humans produce fertile offspring. If they're not the same species, then they're very, very close relatives. Second of all, don't even bring that into the discussion. We're not talking about elves and humans. We're talking about mages and the implications of their freedom.

 

Third of all, you don't seem to see that mages are capable of something other than destruction. The school of creation, for example, focuses on healing and nature. A mage specialized in creation can do a lot of good, and spirit healers can as well.

 

Not at all elves were in thedas before humans then humans migrated to thedas so they aren't relatives...

2.Because you had problem with comparing nukes to mages because they aren't 100 % the same so i mocked that you can't compare elves to humans because they aren't the same despite that have common traits as nuke and mage. So it was mockery of your logic.

 

Damage they are cuasing >>>>>>> benefits they are providing name positive thing that mage did on examples i will give you a lot more examples negative things mages did...

 

 

That's not universally true. 

 

 

Are nukes danger? yes can they be controlled as far it works great...

Are mages danger? yes can they be controlled no as far they are constant huge damage for everything around.

[Cobra's_back]

Actually we were, this was response to your query about what advantages a mage ruler would have over normal men.

 

I must of answered the wrong post. I would not be interested in a mage ruler.

[EmissaryofLies]

 

Are nukes danger? yes can they be controlled as far it works great...

Are mages danger? yes can they be controlled no as far they are constant huge damage for everything around.

 

Not every mage is a danger. 

[Cobra's_back]

Yeah theory don't equal practice well i can show you on example for renegade shepard in mass effect 2...

 

hah yeah stable you mean like now stable with abomnations and disasters sponsored by mages good luck with that...

 

 

Not at all elves were in thedas before humans then humans migrated to thedas so they aren't relatives...

2.Because you had problem with comparing nukes to mages because they aren't 100 % the same so i mocked that you can't compare elves to humans because they aren't the same despite that have common traits as nuke and mage. So it was mockery of your logic.

 

Damage they are cuasing >>>>>>> benefits they are providing name positive thing that mage did on examples i will give you a lot more examples negative things mages did...

 

 

 

 

Are nukes danger? yes can they be controlled as far it works great...

Are mages danger? yes can they be controlled no as far they are constant huge damage for everything around.

 

 

Mass effect 2 Shepard was players choice as renegade. This is not a real examples. Nor do the majority in Dragon Age want to be abominations. Work with the majority and deal with the minority.

 

Logic Okay, give us the number of mages that want to be abominations vs the number who want families and a normal life. Do you have that? 

[Divine Justinia V]

Not every mage is a danger. 

 

example: Wynne and Finn

[Master Warder Z_]

example: Wynne and Finn

 

An Abomination and...The man who possesses the most evil headware in existence.

[Divine Justinia V]

An Abomination and...The man who possesses the most evil headware in existence.

 

So? What is your point? She's an "abomination" that is not possessed by a demon but a friendly spirit.

 

And?

[TheKomandorShepard]

Not every mage is a danger. 

Yep every deal with that as every mage can become abomnation and chances are high enough to be danger.

 

 

 

 

Mass effect 2 Shepard was players choice as renegade. This is not a real examples. Nor do the majority in Dragon Age want to be abominations. Work with the majority and deal with the minority.

 

 

But that was how world work sure it was your choice and only game but it showed that despite laws protecting guy we could beat guy on pulp with police blessing that how it works in real world as well...

 

 

 

example: Wynne and Finn

 

Yep an abomnation who went made in asunder starting to kill everything on her (it) path not to mention that she helped divine cause world war.Besides that finn didn't turn into abomniation during 30 minutes of gameplay says a little... i guess if we were playing in prequel with uldred you won't call him no danger because he didn't turn into abomnation?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Are nukes danger? yes can they be controlled as far it works great...

Are mages danger? yes can they be controlled no as far they are constant huge damage for everything around.

Are non-mages danger? Yes. 

Can they be controlled? No more so than mages.

Therefore, non-mages are just as a 'constant huge damage for everything around' as mages. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

Are non-mages danger? Yes. 

Can they be controlled? No more so than mages.

Therefore, non-mages are just as a 'constant huge damage for everything around' as mages. 

First non-mages aren't even close dangerous to those 2 things and pretty much why nukes are controled so humans could survive so racial suicide would be stupid... because non-mage is in danger equal to another non-mage when mage is world-scale danger like nuke...

[Wolfen09]

mages just have an easier time setting fire to things... im so jealous

[Cobra's_back]

The KomandorShepard: "But that was how world work sure it was your choice and only game but it showed that despite laws protecting guy we could beat guy on pulp with police blessing that how it works in real world as well..."

 

No it doesn't. Just make sure you catch it on video and let the lawyers have fun suing the pants off the community. In the real world that is.