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[MisterJB]

Personal property? In Val Royeaux?

 

How the hell did I miss that one...

Souvenirs. Not homes or businesses.

They visited Val-Royeaux and bought souvenirs.

[DontWakeTheBear]

Can you give me an example of a casteless married to another casteless?

I assume the Dwarf Commoner's family. I'm pretty sure the father's dead, but for the male Dwarf Commoner to also be Casteless, then his father had to be casteless as well.

[Hellion Rex]

Souvenirs. Not homes or businesses.

They visited Val-Royeaux and bought souvenirs.

Oh, gotcha. Starting to think I'd gone blind..

[Asdrubael Vect]

Which they already do. Rhys remarked how they were allowed to visit Val-Royeaux and buy personal proprierty.

Rhys is the 2 man in White Spire(aka the main Chantry Cirlce of all Chantry Cirlces) and was serve to Divine herself

 

it is mostly like you will be said about Fiona who was the main enchanter of all Orlais Chantry Cirlces

[BlueMagitek]

actually already 20 for ~600 years after 20 Chantry Cirlces was destroyed

There are 15 Circles under the rule of the White Chantry.    That's, what, 1 & 1/3rd annulment per Circle over 600 years?  That's still very rare.

[Cobra's_back]

The Casteless of the Dwarves?

 

Didn't you write: "the common people (especially Alienage elves "

[BlueMagitek]

I assume the Dwarf Commoner's family. I'm pretty sure the father's dead, but for the male Dwarf Commoner to also be Casteless, then his father had to be casteless as well.

 

http://dragonage.wik...ki/Kalah_Brosca

 

Specifically says they were unable to do so.

[BlueMagitek]

Didn't you write: "the common people (especially Alienage elves "

 

You're missing the rest of my statement there.  I'm well aware that the City Elves are able to marry with the freely offered blessing of the Chantry.

[MisterJB]

When Wynne had a child they took her baby away. That is not okay.

It is not pleasant but it is necessary.

 

1-If mages are allowed to freely reproduce, they will soon overpopulate the Circle. This increase in population will lead to a greater need for space, a need to increase the number of Templars which will also increase the lyrium demand which will affect human economy; plus, this new mage youths will crave greater recognition and representation within human politics which will lead to conflict.

 

2-Families are stressfull. Stress leads to demonic possession.

 

3-What if Rhys had been a normal person and Wynne was still allowed to keep him?

He would have spent his childhood years isolated from his peers for no reason at all and he would have no option for the future other than becoming a Templar because Wynne only knows one trade, magic, and she couldn't teach him.

[MisterJB]

Rhys is the 2 man in White Spire(aka the main Chantry Cirlce of all Chantry Cirlces) and was serve to Divine herself

 

it is mostly like you will be said about Fiona who was the main enchanter of all Orlais Chantry Cirlces

What?

[Cobra's_back]

The Casteless of the Dwarves?

 

The Brosca family is a casteless family living in Dust Town, the poverty-stricken and crime-riddled ghetto of Orzammar. No one came and took the kids away.

[MisterJB]

Which they should have. Dust Town is no place to raise a child in.

Much like the Circle altough in vastly different ways.

[BlueMagitek]

The Brosca family is a casteless family living in Dust Town, the poverty-stricken and crime-riddled ghetto of Orzammar. No one came and took the kids away.

 

Because they're casteless; no one cares.  Their preferred way of dealing with it is to abandon the child to the Deep Road and the Darkspawn. 

[Cobra's_back]

It is not pleasant but it is necessary.

 

1-If mages are allowed to freely reproduce, they will soon overpopulate the Circle. This increase in population will lead to a greater need for space, a need to increase the number of Templars which will also increase the lyrium demand which will affect human economy; plus, this new mage youths will crave greater recognition and representation within human politics which will lead to conflict.

 

2-Families are stressfull. Stress leads to demonic possession.

 

3-What if Rhys had been a normal person and Wynne was still allowed to keep him?

He would have spent his childhood years isolated from his peers for no reason at all and he would have no option for the future other than becoming a Templar because Wynne only knows one trade, magic, and she couldn't teach him.

 

Families give purpose and provide stability. I'm not buying this Chantry stuff. Hawk's father was a mage and he didn't turn into a demon. Let's not forget Wilhelm Shale's master. He had a family.

[Asdrubael Vect]

There are 15 Circles under the rule of the White Chantry.    That's, what, 1 & 1/3rd annulment per Circle over 600 years?  That's still very rare.

there is actually 12 Circles by Orlais Chantry control...Nevarra Cirlce(after creating of Nevarra kingdom ruled by Pentaghast and Mortilasy mages) and 7 Tevinter Imperium Cirlces are not belong for Orlais Chantry and Rivain Circle is not really belongs to Orlais Chantry(it was destroyed by Seekers and Templars after Kirkwal)

[BlueMagitek]

http://dragonage.wik.../Circle_of_Magi

 

That's where I drew my information from.

[Asdrubael Vect]

What?

Rhys and Adrian are Senior Enchanters and the second people in White Spire(main Chantry Circle) and serve for Divine herself

[Cobra's_back]

Because they're casteless; no one cares.  Their preferred way of dealing with it is to abandon the child to the Deep Road and the Darkspawn. 

 

The point is they are allowed to have kids and marry. 

[MisterJB]

Families give purpose and provide stability. I'm not buying this Chantry stuff. Hawk's father was a mage and he didn't turn into a demon. Let's not forget Wilhelm Shale's master. He had a family.

 

Quentin had a wife. Look at what her death turned him into.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Are you really arguing that the Casteless Dwarves have it better than the Circle, ghostbusters101?

[MisterJB]

The point is they are allowed to have kids and marry. 

Fine, we'll take the casteless and place them in the Circles and take the mages and place them in Dust Town. Same rules.

 

Watch as the mages demand to return to the Circle and the Casteless kill them so they can remain in it.

[Cobra's_back]

Quentin had a wife. Look at what her death turned him into.

 

We don't blame everyone for the actions of a few. Quentin was a blood mage and he wanted to be. It was not an accident.

[TheKomandorShepard]

As per usual, I take objection with most of the things written here. So I'll focus on what we can work with. 

 

In regards to Merrill every last companion besides Anders fell to the pride demon in the Feynreil quest. 

 

The Mages Collective that lends credibility to the fact that it is possible for mages to look after themselves? I find no fault with them so far into the narrative. 

 

Marethari became an abomination to protect someone, it was a stupid notion with a good heart at the center of it. She did not lose control of herself. At least not provably so. 

 

If you want to talk about plot armor, it is only fair to speak of plot stupidity. Grace suffered from plot stupidity, I can add Orsino to the list of exceptions because the only reason he became an abomination was for a boss fight, this is according to devs. 

 

I can say that Connor was a child and not at fault. If anyone is to blame it's that conniving, horrendous screeching b*tch Isolde. The stars aligned with Connor. If abominations were as plentiful as you believe them to be, would not you have heard of them regularly destroying towns? Would not apostates be turning Abomination when the bartender spills their drink?

 

They are not the norm. The devs simply wanted to give you something to kill for the most part...Or do you believe that Carta dwarves are millions in number as per Dragon Age II? 

 

1.And every other companions isn't mage so don't have to deal with demons in their lives unless demon is already in thedas. So pretty much if you aren't mage you won't be tempted when you dream...

2.Yeah corruption and shady business very trustworthy organisation pretty much because it isn't offical organisation and rather secret we don't see what they screw so if there is collective member roaming as abomnation we wouldn't know that was their member.

3.And so what another reason why mages are dangerous why she did turned into abomnation doesn't matter as i said mages can have millions reasons to do that what matters that they turned into abomnations. 

4.Grace was an abomnation so she was insane and no it isn't plot armor it is how most abomnations works. 

5.Yes i can say that i shouldn't be punished for killing someone because im just human good luck with that pal.... he took book and agreed to let demon in if you want justify character with stupidity you would have to not blame 75 % mages for their actions...

 

yeap they are norm pretty much as i said we have many examples of abomnations just from 2 peoples perspective and no there is no 1 milion dwarves not even near that yes they are high in numbers but organisation is pretty much large.

[Cobra's_back]

Are you really arguing that the Casteless Dwarves have it better than the Circle, ghostbusters101?

 

No. I didn't say that. I'm saying they are allowed to marry.

[BlueMagitek]

The point is they are allowed to have kids and marry. 

 

Okay.  They're also a literal underclass and can be abused worse than any other group in Thedas except perhaps for Tevinter bloodslaves.

 

Actually, it is worse, because they freely attempt to use casteless to make golems because they're too cheap to provide more steel.