Guess I forgot about that.
The Chantry is full of hypocrites...
I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Funny, in Asunder Evangeline even thinks about how phylacteries were a bit of hypocrisy the templars were willing to tolerate because it makes their jobs easier
Funny, in Asunder Evangeline even thinks about how phylacteries were a bit of hypocrisy the templars were willing to tolerate because it makes their jobs easier
Right, Using a tracking spell and draining another person of their blood to power spells are in the same league 
Another reason that failure as a Templar shouldn't be accountable for anything, even pre abomination phase.
Serfs work fields, they live and die on their lords properties, are conscripted into their armies.
But they aren't harvested for their blood to power spells.
That's the product of Magocracy.
._. I'd say its worse.
That's kind of like saying that an Aztec-style government of empowered semi-democratic city councils would lead inevitably to blood sacrifice.
And not a scenario worse than any of the status quo in the rest of Thedas. It's not better either, and I wouldn't try to foster it, but Thedas already sucks in a great deal of governmental and societal ways.
That said, magocracy itself is definitely no worse than rule by any other form of aristocracy.
A magocracy? No, it's no worse in an abstract sense.
A magocracy like Tevinter? I'd probably take Orlais over that, which is saying something. At least the chevaliers can typically only kill one person at a time with their swords.
Right, Using a tracking spell and draining another person of their blood to power spells are in the same league
Another reason that failure as a Templar shouldn't be accountable for anything, even pre abomination phase.
Except she's not an abomination, Z.
Funny, in Asunder Evangeline even thinks about how phylacteries were a bit of hypocrisy the templars were willing to tolerate because it makes their jobs easier
Just like how Medi-Gel is supposed to be illegal yet it's too useful to get rid of. Gotta love those loopholes. 
Right, Using a tracking spell and draining another person of their blood to power spells are in the same league
Another reason that failure as a Templar shouldn't be accountable for anything, even pre abomination phase.
A bit of hypocracy. Given templars will kill/make tranquil a mage who's even suspected of blood magic.
Except she's not an abomination, Z.
By Definition in so far it requires you be a mage.
She is possessed and therefore in my eye an abomination.
._. Seriously that's like saying you don't have cancer because you don't have tumors.
That's kind of like saying that an Aztec-style government of empowered semi-democratic city councils would lead inevitably to blood sacrifice.
Really? The influx of Magister driven society wouldn't allow the usage of blood magic? And therefore it wouldn't have people being butchered like cattle? To Mages "Mundanes" are second rate, that it isn't even an entirely Imperium ideology either, plenty of Thedosian mages, Circle or Apostate have espoused it.
._. Seriously that's like saying you don't have cancer because you don't have tumors.
Really, the metaphors in this thread are awful in general. Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves.
LOL what is wrong with you? I never judged Templars, I gave you examples of corrupt Tempalrs - just like there's corrupted Mages. Lmfao yeah, you literally have nothing guy. Thanks for being my entertainment for a bit but you're still going back to the same old things you've already said that I've canceled out three times now, so I can tell you're fizzling out hahahaha bye bye
No and who said that many templars were abusing mages because arlik? you didn't gave me example only you threw "large number of templars" so well that large numbers of templars we never saw and because it wasn't in case...
Apologies Justinia.
Unpleasant topic for you.
....I'm not gonna lie, Z. That was a really sh*tty metaphor.
But not inaccurate.
No and who said that many templars were abusing mages because arlik? you didn't gave me example only thwrowed "large number of templars" so well...
I never said that, you literally just put words in my mouth. Incredible.
I never said that, you literally just put words in my mouth. Incredible.
No, but I heard Templars abusing and torturing Mages in the Gallows.
I saw the implication of a corrupted Templar abusing his power with Tranquil Mages, whom also had a large following with him
You've listed off traits from Mages of Tevinter. We're not talking about Tevinter Mages. They're not even involved in this war, at least not to our knowledge. I'm strictly talking about the Mages that will have an impact made on their lives/Circle Mages in Kirwall/Ferelden/Orlais
I gave you an example of possible corruption? What is your point? I didn't say ALL Templars were like that the way you implied I did. As for his following it was in regards to the Templars that were actually with him?
girl, bye.
Really? The influx of Magister driven society wouldn't allow the usage of blood magic? And therefore it wouldn't have people being butchered like cattle? To Mages "Mundanes" are second rate, that it isn't even an entirely Imperium ideology either, plenty of Thedosian mages, Circle or Apostate have espoused it.
I can think of two: Uldred (who was a pride abomination anyway) and Tahrone. All the others were crazy and hostile for personal reasons alone. And that thought process isn't even close to something that automatically comes with being a mage; the vast majority of mages don't espouse it.
I gave you an example of possible corruption? What is your point? I didn't say ALL Templars were like that the way you implied I did.
All not but throwing however large amount of templars to alrik bag because he had few templars with him yep.
Nope. Phylacteries are blood magic based on the Chantry's own definition of it.Psuedo blood magic that isn't the product of a deal with a demon mayhaps.
In a similar light as scrying, Gaider needs to rework his own lore i guess.
Evangeline didn't say that Phylacteries are on the same level as other blood magic spells. But since they are blood magic based on the Chantry's own definition of the term, there is a bit of hypocricy in using blood magic to capture mages/blood mages.Right, Using a tracking spell and draining another person of their blood to power spells are in the same league
Another reason that failure as a Templar shouldn't be accountable for anything, even pre abomination phase.
Nope. Phylacteries are blood magic based on the Chantry's own definition of it.
It's a spell based on blood.
Is it? Is it powered by it or is it merely a component?
That's the Chantry Definition, hence why it allows Scrying as well.
It can use blood as a component although it isn't Necessary.
No But it can still be considered blood magic by what the Chantry believes. Evangeline didn't say that Phylacteries are on the same level as other blood magic spells. But since they are blood magic based on the Chantry's own definition of the term, there is a bit of hypocricy in using blood magic to capture mages/blood mages.
I just said that given that usage of blood is merely a component of it, it isn't powered by blood. Given Non Mana wielding persons use it, Obviously Templars cannot use blood magic hence the blood is merely a catalyst.
Not an advert usage of it.
Unless if Gaider changes how blood magic works to make what he said true anyway.
I can think of two: Uldred (who was a pride abomination anyway) and Tahrone. All the others were crazy and hostile for personal reasons alone. And that thought process isn't even close to something that automatically comes with being a mage; the vast majority of mages don't espouse it.
Truly? That seems like a personal position to me, The position exists and it is espoused. The Numeric averages of it are debatable, but it is conclusive it does exist.
Forgive me, but I don't recall what Scrying is.Is it? Is it powered by it or is it merely a component?
That's the Chantry Definition, hence why it allows Scrying as well.
It can use blood as a component although it isn't Necessary.
I just said that given that usage of blood is merely a component of it, it isn't powered by blood. Given Non Mana wielding persons use it, Obviously Templars cannot use blood magic hence the blood is merely a catalyst.
Not an advert usage of it.
Unless if Gaider changes how blood magic works to make what he said true anyway.
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