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rosey1579

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Hi there! I want an honest answer: Do you hate the fade with a passion?

It your answer was yes, then you have good reason. Niall, Demons, Eyes Watering and muted colours. I know, I get it, but I have never even considered that I dislike it. Why? Because I use the MOG law! Do you  want to use it too? Just follow these steps!

 

1. Milk it baby! Just milk the fade of all the little goodies it has! Nowhere else can you find this many free tomes of the mortal vessel!(sort of)

2. You must follow the correct order, so that it is quickest!

3. Lower the graphics, or maybe it was texture, so that the hazy blurred screen is clear

 

 

Post your own tips below. I did not supply you with the order because that's your job!



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1. Milk it baby! Just milk the fade of all the little goodies it has! Nowhere else can you find this many free tomes of the mortal vessel!(sort of)

 

 

Well, you can duplicate as many Tomes of Mortal Vessel as you like, but it's a bit of a exploit. I do it specifically to get my shapeshifters more strength to make up for the bad strength scaling you have with  spellpower.

 

Also, I like the Fade as well. Instant shapeshifting is way cool. i wish you could do that for real.



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I'm one of the seeming few who like the Fade, such that I enter it three times as a mage (my favorite class). On the occasional play-through where the Fade effect bothers my eyes, I temporarily disable screen buffer effects.

 

I'd love the Fade even more if someone modded it to resemble Hermaeus Mora's Apocrypha plane in Skyrim. Absolutely love that place, especially while wearing a headset with decent bass.



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I participate in the miracle of mods. The 'Skip the Fade' mod is a real timesaver!
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rosey1579

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Skip the fade is cheating and you should be ashamed. Now if it was skip the deep roads...


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The Fade is a boring and lonely place.  Perhaps if you had a 'Mouse' type character to follow you around and shoot the breeze with, it wouldn't be so bad....  Alas, there is no such character.  It's either chat to Niall (I can't do it, so you can't do it) and then a long trek back to reality, or skip the fade.  I prefer the latter option.



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I don't mind the fade. Too bad you can't keep the shapeshifting ability. I wouldn't mind running around Fereldon as the burning man.


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I used to like the fade and after so many games it became tedious. Then I stared just coding myself to get the forms right after I come back and talk to Niall about the mouse form. That made it faster but really, at times it's just more tedious than fun. Most of the kills aren't very hard at all. So there's not a lot involved. The mages are kind of a clever challenge and using the forms in certain areas for maximum damage you can do is a bit fun at times, but it really can get tedious. That's why I grab the forms after I talk to Niall... then I just fly right through it in a more direct line rather than all the back and forth nonsense. Last two games I got so bored with it that I just coded that all the locations were cleared using the zz_cir_debug option then went right to Alistair and Wynne. But that's just me personally. There are areas of this game that get tedious to me and so I'll code out of them. For a while I wouldn't even bothered going through haven or the temple. I'd just go straight to the gauntlet. Or I'd just skip to the deep roads for orzammar where I pick up Oghren. Running through what feels like never ending battles against dwarven thugs gets super boring.



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I don't mind the fade. Too bad you can't keep the shapeshifting ability. I wouldn't mind running around Fereldon as the burning man.

 

I always think that. It would be so awesome if you got to keep the shapes after the fade as some kind of reward for surviving and escaping it alive (unlike everyone else who doesn't except your companions who you rescue). That would be really fun in a battle to switch to burning man or a golem or spirit form. They are fun. That was the one thing that made it a bit more fun. Otherwise it was more nuisance than fun. But using the forms to gain the upper hand and get through what would be blocked areas was definitely something interesting at least for a bit. Though figuring out my way through gave me a headache the first times I did it until I finally just got a guide to it.


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I rather like the Fade myself, and after the first few times I can go through it pretty quickly. It only sucked when playing an archer. :P



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I enjoy the gameplay in the fade. Some of the set piece battles there are really chaotic and crazy, in a fun sort of way.

The order I follow is this:

Weisshaupt - The raw fade (mouse) - The Burning Tower (Burning man) - The Darkspawn Invasion (Spirit). During this phase, I use the portal to teleport to the other sections of the fade immediately after learning a new form, without bothering about the essences and kills.

I go to the Mages Asunder section next, learn the golem form and clear the area. Now, having learned all the shapes, I'd revisit all the 4 areas I visited before and sweep them. This way I need to backtrack only once in the Darkspawn invasion and the Burning tower section; the level design is pretty much linear in both cases, so it's not quite a hassle anyway.

Next it's the templar's nightmare, freeing the companions and the showdown.
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I don't mind the fade. Too bad you can't keep the shapeshifting ability. I wouldn't mind running around Fereldon as the burning man.

That's not even the worst part. The fact that I never get to use it again despite going back to the Fade at least once per character is the worst bit.



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I don't mind the fade. I get bonus points and i like the shape-shifting. Sometimes i bring traps with me to use on the enemies. It makes it a little less boring.



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I don't mind the fade. Too bad you can't keep the shapeshifting ability. I wouldn't mind running around Fereldon as the burning man.

I'd like to be able to have everyone I encounter from that point on react with, "You're a talking rat."

 

Seriously though, I don't mind the Fade either.



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Nope, I cannot enjoy it, as many times as I have played DA:O (and I stopped counting), I only tolerated the fade twice. The "Skip The Fade" mod is a must have. Plus using it gives all of the goodies you'd discover playing through it anyway. For me, what made it intolerable, was the repetition of going through the mouse holes and portals.



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My favorite parts of the Fade are Crushing Prison and "bowling for darkspawn" aka being a golem. After the first couple of times, though, it got old and I just wanted my companions back.



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I don't mind the fade. Too bad you can't keep the shapeshifting ability. I wouldn't mind running around Fereldon as the burning man.

 
That would be awesome, especially for a mage. For me, getting through difficult situations by tactical shifting between forms is the highlight of the Fade, most notably when dealing with Slothy and his different forms. It's also interesting to see how the various forms differ in strength for warriors, rogues and mages, leading to different tactics despite using the same forms.
 
I know you're on a console, but PC users can make their own fun run even without downloading mods:

runscript addtalent 100080
runscript addtalent 100081
runscript addtalent 100083
runscript addtalent 100084


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But if you skip the fade then you won't ever know how to reach the hidden treasure of the Vikings, that only the best players can reach. The splendour of it goes beyond your wildest dreams (even though the fade is a wild dream).



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I am serious guys. My 10th playthrough and the fade is still alright. Just MOG! Or whatever...



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BTW. Here's a random tip. In the beginning of the game, always strip a character naked when you know they are going to die. Free equipment. HOLA!



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I dislike it, but I find I can get through pretty quick.

 

Suprisingly, I recently did a playthrough and discovered something new there. I never really paid attention to the various planes before (Burning Tower, Templar Nightmare, etc), and how these are all fantasies of the people trapped by Sloth. Like he keeps the mages content just thinking about power and killing each other and controlling Golems. While the Templars are pissed off, with fire based powers, fueled by Rage demons. Sloth is tapping into their fantasies of anger and destruction.

 

I don't know. I usually just run through and never pay attention, but the symbolism is funny.

 

So yeah, I found something new to appreciate... but I still don't want to play again. I think this will be my last playthrough.



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I time myself, and try to get through in less than one hour. But I don't hate any part of this game enough to skip past it.



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I dislike it, but I find I can get through pretty quick.

 

Suprisingly, I recently did a playthrough and discovered something new there. I never really paid attention to the various planes before (Burning Tower, Templar Nightmare, etc), and how these are all fantasies of the people trapped by Sloth. Like he keeps the mages content just thinking about power and killing each other and controlling Golems. While the Templars are pissed off, with fire based powers, fueled by Rage demons. Sloth is tapping into their fantasies of anger and destruction.

 

I don't know. I usually just run through and never pay attention, but the symbolism is funny.

 

So yeah, I found something new to appreciate... but I still don't want to play again. I think this will be my last playthrough.

 

He feeds to their fantasy which keeps them 'content' enough to not try to get out. Niall is the only one other than the shapeshifters that get what's happening. And even the shapeshifters are back and forth from level headed to torment/trapped like when you meet the mouse, the mouse knows what is going on. The one who is the spirit form, he's a templar I think but not in templar armor... which is showing he is not caught in that fantasy at all or even caught up in the templar mindset. There's no reason anyone in this place would be anyone other than who was in the tower. So who would be there in regular non templar armor? Someone who sees himself more as a warrior than a templar. Templar isn't his identity. Might be why his form is spirit form. Of all the forms, that is mostly one to defend itself and heal. Kind of protection oriented. Crushing prison is a control power that will kill but it's primary function is to stop attacks by putting you in a prison that happens to crush you but unless you have a very weak target, in and of itself it will not kill or at least not quickly. Freeze also more about stopping an attack. It can kill weak targets but it will slow or weaken most others. And healing.... purely protective. Spirit form has a pretty powerful melee. Warrior like but no weapons. Clever

 

The only templars that were able to resist were the two in the fade (burning man, spirit form and maybe the mouse who could also be a mage or chantry as we don't really see anything but the mouse) ... and cullen who had to be trapped in some force field because he had the most power to resist. I think that really says a damn lot about the templars and their 'abilities' and discipline. All the templars you see in the tower other than Cullen (or outside the doors) are dead or under control. You would think more would have had more ability to resist which I think goes back to what alistair says about it being about discipline and suggests many of the templars that fell victim might have not had the discipline or have been there for the wrong reasons (power, control, etc).

 

I bet the mouse was a mage.. reminds me of the mage opening. A mage who gets trapped there and isn't part of that mess might want to hide. That's basically what the demon in the fade in the mage opening tells you only he lies to you.

 

The Golem is a Mage. So that is power/control. Mostly massive power but there's the whole undercurrent there because golems have a control rod. Who holds the control rod? Templars essentially and the Chantry. And he's being attacked by the chantry. That one is brilliant, especially when you think about Shale's story, how the mage controlled her. Only in the fade nobody has a control rod.

 

The symbolism is well done. That is one thing you can say about the fade for sure.



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I am serious guys. My 10th playthrough and the fade is still alright. Just MOG! Or whatever...

 

I'm probably about 15-20 with a portion not fully completely but nearly all went to the circle very early to acquire wynne. That gets boring after a while, though for some it might not.


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Yeah, I think the mouse is labeled "apprentice" or some sort when you first see him. So probably a mage.

 

And yeah, I kind of respect Cullen for being the toughest to crack. So they just gave up and imprisoned him.