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Do Masked Empire and Asunder count as required Reading?


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ShadowLordXII

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Will players going into Inquisition have to had read both Masked Empire and Asunder to completely understand key details of it's plot?

 

I love reading and Asunder was good, but I'm an old-fashioned guy who believes that information important to the main story should be presented within said-story.

 

Take Origins for instance, you could go through that story and learn a lot of relevant and/or world-building information about the world, Ferelden's history, King Maric, the Grey Wardens, Mages and etc. The books Stolen Throne and Calling were prequel stories that supplemented and expanded on information from the games. But you didn't have to read either one to fully enjoy Origins.

 

With Asunder having been out for a substantial amount of time before Inquisition's release, is it possible and reasonable for both books to become required reading rather than just good, yet supplementary stories?



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I think they mentioned something about that with the books to the games. The books just allow for a touch more history, nothing that would actually be required but be like bonus knowledge and almost like Easter eggs for the readers. I remember them mentioning that a character from Asunder will be taking part in the game in some form (I am hoping it's Cole as a companion, since he was so beautifully set up for a fresh start at the end and I adore him so much as a character it would be a total waste of his potential to just be left as a book character) so I'm sure the stuff in Asunder will be mentioned in game so then those who don't read them wont need to unless it hits a curious bone. 

 

I hope it's not required like how some companies handle the lore of their games (Looking at you Diablo 3, and your blasted books that I will never read and thus have no idea what is going on at the start of the first expansion) and they have handled it well before without it needed and just bonus lore and minor background to characters. 



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Hanako Ikezawa

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I'm sure Bioware will have ingame stuff to fill everyone in. They did for all previous games.



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JakeLeTDK

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I don't think they are required. Mike said at Pax East that if you read the book, there will be some hints and surprise reference in game. But even if you never read them, things still make sense.

 

Still, I'd recommend TME, it's a pretty good book. As far as story spoiler though, I don't know lol we gotta wait till DA:I come out to confirm that :)



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Ello Naver

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Having read them both I think they more provide the backstory of how the templar-mage war really got started and how the civil war of Orlais also got started.
Plus it hinted some of the forces that might be behind the veil tear. However, I don't see that any of this information will be critical for DAI, just as mentioned it provides a background. (And for those who can't wait until this fall, a warning, the books make you even more excited)



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Seeing as Asunder details the real events that caused the mage and templar war, yes it is. Anders and what he did meant nothing in the long run as Asunder clearly shows.



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Uccio

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No. Games are not book.

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DrBlingzle

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Seeing as Asunder details the real events that caused the mage and templar war, yes it is. Anders and what he did meant nothing in the long run as Asunder clearly shows.

Well actually what happened in asunder was partially caused by what anders did. Anders just set forward a chain reaction leading to the war.
To answer the OP's question I think all the need to know stuff will be in game, reading the books will just mean you have a better understanding of the context and therefore allowing you to make more informed decisions.

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Innsmouth Dweller

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i'm sure casual gamers won't miss anything, but the experience will be much richer for fans who read the books/comics/played previous games.



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Milan92

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I think its more gonna be along the lines of references and easter eggs as someone already stated. Like you come across a certain character in the game from Masked Empire - then the people who have read the book go: "Hey its that character from the book!" While for those that haven't read the book it will just be a character.



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It is a usual: the books are not required reading in the sense that you must know them to understand DAI's plot, but they enrich the story and the world, providing more context for things you may encounter in the game, so they may be required reading in the sense that the world as a whole feels more complete if you know them.

So, from the "any player" viewpoint, they are not required reading, while for a fan, they certainly are.

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Gervaise

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There should be no real need provided any important information about a character is supplied in game or in the codices.  In some ways it is better not to if you are not playing a mage or a noble from Orlais as there is no way you are likely to have gained that information.   A peasant in Orlais is only likely to be aware in as much as it affects their own life, which will vary according to how near they are to the action.  They will know nothing about the character of the nobles involved in the Civil War unless they were actually their overlord.   Even a noble in north Orlais may not have as much knowledge about the key players as a southerner, unless they have been constantly at Court. 

 

A mage will know a great deal more because Wynne sent a sending to each Circle with information of what occurred on her mission, then the First Enchanters gathered, were imprisoned and escaped, and the Circles fell.   So in a way, having information from Asunder will bring a mage up to date with the situation, if it isn't provided in the background to that class, which I imagine it will be.  

 

Having information from books can make you prejudge a situation to which you might actually react differently if coming at it fresh.   Had I known what the Architect did (or was trying to do) in the Calling, I doubt I would even have given him air time.   Given how the Grey Wardens responded to you letting him go, and since they obviously must have known about him prior to the Blight, you'd think that they might have at least informed their newest Warden Commander of the situation in case he/she should run across him.    So it was probably better from a plot perspective that I didn't know about the Calling when I played Awakening, but from a credibility standpoint I think they Warden should have been aware of the previous history.   The Grey Wardens are secretive with people outside of their order but surely they should keep people briefed within it.

 

There is also all the additional information contained in comics to consider as well, which I haven't read, although you can pick it up from the Wiki.     So I'm hoping that everything we need to know is contained within the game, including possible reasons for a character's motivations and it is not assumed that we will know it from earlier publications or alternatively is only revealed in a DLC (as was the case with Loghain and Return to Ostagar)



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TME was way better than Asunder if I only had the money for one and was wanting some DA till DA:I comes out I would get TME.



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None of the books or comics are 'required' reading. It's not like they'll start throwing specific info at you in the game without explaining and make you unable to understand what's happening if you hadn't read the books. You only get more context by reading. And for fans of the universe, you get more details and backround information about what's happening, which is always cool.

 

Any info from the books that the devs feel players should know will somehow be in the game, either through dialogue or codex entries, probably.

 

For example, in Inquisition, we know that the Circles have rebelled, the White Spire included. You can understand that without reading the books and only learning about it from the information the game will tell you. If you read Asunder, you'll know exactly why and the specifics, but without it being required for you to have read it before hand.

 

However I think all fans should read the books if they have the chance, as they are good and all the backround information is really neat. Plus it's always cool when you have read about a character from the books and then go 'hey! You're that guy!' when you see them in-game.