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[Hanako Ikezawa]

That would be very dumb why?

 

1.Cassandra saw hawke as villain and someone who deliberately started war to overthrow chantry so he was in their eyes evil mastermind not to mention that hawke could be pro-mage.So why hire guy with contrary goal?

 

2.Warden could kill leliana and destroy most holly for chantry relict so well why don't hire guy who killed you and destroyed ashes?

1) Despite her opinion on Hawke, Cassandra saw that they would be a powerful voice in the faction they sided with and wanted to find them to hopefully use that voice to calm that faction down. 

 

2) Considering you have to kill Brother Genetivi if you go that route, who would know about the Warden doing that?

[TheKomandorShepard]

1) Despite her opinion on Hawke, Cassandra saw that they would be a powerful voice in the faction they sided with and wanted to find them to hopefully use that voice to calm that faction down. 

 

2) Considering you have to kill Brother Genetivi if you go that route, who would know about the Warden doing that?

 

1) And what she wanted him to save world when he was working (at lest in their eyes) to destroy world? That would be very very dumb and lacks common sense it would be like ask harbinger for help to stop reapers...

 

2)Eee leliana? well if i renember correctly you don't have to kill him you can let him go...

[Hanako Ikezawa]

1) And what she wanted him to save world when he was working (at lest in their eyes) to destroy world? That would be very very dumb and lacks common sense it would be like ask for help harbinger to stop reapers...

 

2)Eee leliana? well if i renember correctly you don't have to kill him you can let him go...

It makes sense. Hawke is important figure to the faction they help. If you can influence Hawke, you can influence faction. Simply really. 

 

You are right. He yells at you and runs away if allowed. However, the Chantry is practical. Warden has defeated a Blight in record time, so could be useful in stopping Veil Tears. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

It makes sense. Hawke is important figure to the faction they help. If you can influence Hawke, you can influence faction. Simply really. 

 

You are right. He yells at you and runs away if allowed. However, the Chantry is practical. Warden has defeated a Blight in record time, so could be useful in stopping Veil Tears. 

Omg facepalm

 

You told me now that it have sense to try recruit harbinger (leader of the reapers) to stop reapers have sense wha? As i said power doesn't matter you don't recruit doctor psycho who wants destroy the world to your team that want save the world...  i hope i don't have explain why it is dumb idea?

 

Well considering that he destroyed most holly artifact for power that chantry despise it would be like send corrupted cop to deal with mafia.If chantry was practical they would kill mages long time ago sparing thedas 10000 problems they are causing...

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Omg facepalm

 

You told me now that it have sense to try recruit harbinger (leader of the reapers) to stop reapers have sense wha? As i said power doesn't matter you don't recruit doctor psycho who wants destroy the world to your team that want save the world...  i hope i don't have explain why it is dumb idea?

 

Well considering that he destroyed most holly artifact for power that chantry despise it would be like send corrupted cop to deal with mafia.If chantry was practical they would kill mages long time ago sparing thedas 10000 problems they are causing...

If there was a Reaper who was willing to turn on their compatriots, why not? And considering that your argument changed drastically based on my comment, no you don't have to explain since you're flippant on it. 

 

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend." And no, killing all mages is not a practical idea. And don't even start saying it is. We both know that will go nowhere. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

If there was a Reaper who was willing to turn on their compatriots, why not? And considering that your argument changed drastically based on my comment, no you don't have to explain since you're flippant on it. 

 

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend." And no, killing all mages is not a practical idea. And don't even start saying it is. We both know that will go nowhere. 

So lets tell that like to 10 years old children ok we have person A and he have army and goal to destroy the world now we have person B that want save the world by destroying A and his army now person B seeks person A to help him/her to save world and destroy himself and his army... So is that have any sense? Anser is big no

 

Because person A won't kill himself and destroy his army to save world when s/he want to destroy the world...

 

 

Eee and yes killing mages is practical idea as it will stop many problems that thedas have most dangerous one like many disasters sponsored by mages or abomnations...

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so no zathrian , no uldred , no kirkwall , no baroness , no future blights and no insane blood mages with udead armies...

[SwobyJ]

*tries to kill all mages*

 

*enough mages rally and kill everyone*

 

*new Tevinter Empire is established*

[TheKomandorShepard]

*tries to kill all mages*

 

*enough mages rally and kill everyone*

 

*new Tevinter Empire is established*

 

Yeah mages are ultimate life forms and non-mages can't stop mages

Reasons

Mages were soo badass they let non-mages enslave them damn that power

Mages are so powerful that they are losing every their fight with non-mages so that war would be equal .

 

[Fiery Knight]

That would be very dumb why?

 

1.Cassandra saw hawke as villain and someone who deliberately started war to overthrow chantry so he was in their eyes evil mastermind not to mention that hawke could be pro-mage.So why hire guy with contrary goal?

 

2.Warden could kill leliana and destroy most holly for chantry relict so well why don't hire guy who killed you and destroyed ashes?

 

1. Varric says to Cassandra that she is looking for Hawke to "put the world back together". Hence why she would potentially want Hawke as the leader. And considering her opinion changes in the end, also supports it.

 

2. Doesn't mean he is a capable leader. She wouldn't trust the warden perhaps, but she would trust him / her to the right thing in the end to save the world, just like in DAo. 

[SwobyJ]

@Komander

 

You don't get it.

 

Of course non-mages can stop mages.

 

The problem is that if even several strong mages survive the purge (not to mention secret mages being born... what, you think people are always gonna be cool with killing babies and children?), they'll be 100% committed to brutal revenge.

 

So go ahead and genocide all of them. But it'll NEED to be all of them, for any 'solution' to work. At least our own history carries the lesson that Final Solutions are not nearly final. And with mages, the response either from and to them would be another evil empire, now with 2x the anger at non-mages/mages! In either case, tons of death, all avoidable. At the very least, the Circle system minimized deaths that could otherwise have happened on both sides. And I'm not even pro (Templar) Circle.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

So lets tell that like to 10 years old children ok we have person A and he have army and goal to destroy the world now we have person B that want save the world by destroying A and his army now person B seeks person A to help him/her to save world and destroy himself and his army... So is that have any sense? Anser is big no

 

Because person A won't kill himself and destroy his army to save world when s/he want to destroy the world...

 

 

Eee and yes killing mages is practical idea as it will stop many problems that thedas have most dangerous one like many disasters sponsored by mages or abomnations...

.

so no zathrian , no uldred , no kirkwall , no baroness , no future blights and no insane blood mages with udead armies...

And this has what to do with Dragon Age since no faction other than Darkspawn have "goal to destroy world"?

 

Doing something that can't be done isn't practical.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

@Komander

 

You don't get it.

 

Of course non-mages can stop mages.

 

The problem is that if even several strong mages survive the purge (not to mention secret mages being born... what, you think people are always gonna be cool with killing babies and children?), they'll be 100% committed to brutal revenge.

 

So go ahead and genocide all of them. But it'll NEED to be all of them, for any 'solution' to work. At least our own history carries the lesson that Final Solutions are not nearly final. And with mages, the response to them would be another evil empire, now with 2x the anger at non-mages!

You're wasting your breath. He'll never budge from his 'logic' and 'common sense'.

[SwobyJ]

You're wasting your breath. He'll never budge from his 'logic' and 'common sense'.

 

lol

 

Sometimes I post in reply to people, to not really reply to them, but instead to let my opinions be known to other people reading. That's one of the better parts of how forums work

 

But yeah, you're right.

[Br3admax]

The obvious solution is to kill everyone, that way there will only be magical spirit hogs. Nugs never hurt anyone. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

lol

 

Sometimes I post in reply to people, to not really reply to them, but instead to let my opinions be known to other people reading. That's one of the better parts of how forums work

 

But yeah, you're right.

I'm the same. I also find myself having to reply or else come across as rude. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The obvious solution is to kill everyone, that way there will only be magical spirit hogs. Nugs never hurt anyone. 

Hello, another version of me. *referencing avatars*

[AresKeith]

Hello, another version of me. *referencing avatars*

 

Battle of the avis

[TheKomandorShepard]

1. Varric says to Cassandra that she is looking for Hawke to "put the world back together". Hence why she would potentially want Hawke as the leader. And considering her opinion changes in the end, also supports it.

 

2. Doesn't mean he is a capable leader. She wouldn't trust the warden perhaps, but she would trust him / her to the right thing in the end to save the world, just like in DAo. 

 

Yes i see it it is brilliant lets hire guy that smashed the world onto piecies (at least in their eyes)  to "put the world back together" Damn fu*** hobbits lets hire nazguls to destroy ring damn brilliant...

 

2.?

 

@Komander

 

You don't get it.

 

Of course non-mages can stop mages.

 

The problem is that if even several strong mages survive the purge (not to mention secret mages being born... what, you think people are always gonna be cool with killing babies and children?), they'll be 100% committed to brutal revenge.

 

So go ahead and genocide all of them. But it'll NEED to be all of them, for any 'solution' to work. At least our own history carries the lesson that Final Solutions are not nearly final. And with mages, the response either from and to them would be another evil empire, now with 2x the anger at non-mages/mages! In either case, tons of death, all avoidable. At the very least, the Circle system minimized deaths that could otherwise have happened on both sides. And I'm not even pro (Templar) Circle.

 

And what those few mages can do please tell me nothing at worst insane mage will attack village but quickly will be killed by anti-mages that will be now full focused on hunting and killing mages instead on watching them. Do i have to mention that genocide in thedas isn't something uncommon not to mention that mages are hated minority.With anti-magical laws it would be even more effective.

 

So no few mages won't rise empire you know why because even now in full strenght they can't unless somehow they will win in war they are heavily losing. And no circle only slightly decreased death rate because thanks to mages it is still colosal without mages we will save so many peoples removing tiny minority...

 

And this has what to do with Dragon Age since no faction other than Darkspawn have "goal to destroy world"?

 

Doing something that can't be done isn't practical.

Eee dai villain and agents of chaos? Not mention they thought that hawke was villain that went for destabilization of the world purposely?

[katerinafm]

Let's keep this friendly, guys! It's all theories/speculation at this point

[Divine Justinia V]

It's 4/20 on Easter, either praise it or blaze it

  
Lol I figure I'd get it out of the way before family time

Well, some people are going to see giant rabbits all right. 

Lmfao Hina

[ElitePinecone]

OP, the Inquisition was only refounded in response to the events at the start of the game, where a magical attack decimates the Chantry leadership and reveals that someone or something is engineering all of this chaos for their own purposes. It was done then because the attack revealed that Thedas' existing power structures were inadequate to deal with this new threat.

So no, I don't think the Inquisitor is a replacement for the Warden or Hawke. I don't think anybody intended to make a new Inquisition before the attack, and we (the Inquisitor) were at the attack. Up until the Veil tears, I definitely don't think Cass or Leliana wanted to start a new Inquisition or make the Warden/Hawke Inquisitors.

[Former_Fiend]

You know, I expect this to be true on the meta-level.

 

I've long theorized that very early in DAI development, probably before they were even completely finished with DA2, the plan was for Hawke to continue on as the protagonist for at least another game, and that he would have had the role that eventually became the Inquisitor. 

[katerinafm]

You know, I expect this to be true on the meta-level.

 

I've long theorized that very early in DAI development, probably before they were even completely finished with DA2, the plan was for Hawke to continue on as the protagonist for at least another game, and that he would have had the role that eventually became the Inquisitor. 

 

I don't know what the original plan was for certain, but it is true that Hawke was intended to have another game, or at least a full expansion, so you are right about that.

[AltanIV]

I'm probably wrong, but ever since Inquisition was announced and details were given, I haven't been able to shake off the impression that Hawke was originally intended to be the Inquisitor but backlash against 'em after DA2 made Bioware go "Nah, let's have it be a new character." He/she was called 'the most important person in Thedas' and unless Hawke set off some eldritch level Rube Goldberg machine of Flemeth that will result in the change coming to the world, I don't see that.

 I don't remember who exactly stated it but I remember one of Bioware staff saying that an expansion had been canceled for DA2 so I guess that Cassandra wanted Hawke to help with the Mage/Templar conflict but not necessarily with the Veil Tear and/or The Inquisition.

From what I understand The Inquisitor is, if not The Founder, one of the new Inquisition first members. As for Flemeth, I dunno, I have a hard time picturing her as a real villain, I can agree that she has an agenda of her own and can be pragmatic at times but I'm not so sure that she should be considered as Thedas main antagonist. But I'm getting away from the initial subject so I'll leave it at that.

 

Also like Hinata Hyuuga I've been led to believe that the current Inquisition has nothing to do with the Inquisition that became The Seekers/Templars, even more so if we consider that the Inquisitor canbe  a Dwarf, a Dalish elf (I don't actually know if we'll be able to play a city elf or not) or a Tal Vashoth. And I would expect none of those to be chantry followers.

 

The Inquisition feels more like a nickname that has been given to them and that in turn they adopted.

[ElitePinecone]

Just to clarify my post above, I mean that chronologically there was no Inquisition before we set it up at the start of DAI. Cass and Leliana couldn't have been talking about recruiting Hawke/the Warden as Inquisitors because the organisation didn't exist yet at the end of DA2.

Everything we know points to it forming directly as a response to the veil tears at the peace conference, not as something that Leliana or Cassandra were already working on beforehand.

(Which is why we're the first and probably only Inquisitor, we're there leading it from day one. We're instrumental in its conception.)