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#151
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The concept art he's been in is much more recent than that, though.

And devs like Sheryl Chee have been happy to joke about the character (I am guessing she wrote the Warden), which would make no sense if he was already scrapped.

Yup, I'm still betting on Sheryl being his writer, since I've noticed that she checks out his thread VERY often.


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Oh hey, it's cole:

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lol jk. 


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Yup, I'm still betting on Sheryl being his writer, since I've noticed that she checks out his thread VERY often.



She also one liked a joke of mine about giving the Warden a strong Glaswegian accent so that nobody could understand him. Scottish Warden!

I've said this a few times but Sheryl said something ages and ages ago about using her grandfather as inspiration for a particular scene, which I think could totally be the Warden. He seems grandfatherly in the same way that Wynne was grandmotherly, in the sense of dispensing hard truths.

(Though his reaction to Sera's amazingly dirty gesture in the inn scene made me think he has an uproarious side too.)

I'm also increasingly thinking Sheryl wrote DHMG too, as she's been liking a lot of his fan art and mock conversations.

... unless that's just sowing chaos and confusion, or something.

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Cullens story is just so fascination I mean he was there for like the worst of mages/template conflicts.
 
He's truly seen both bad and good.


And he truly slaughtered old women and young children without a second thought, twice.
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#155
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Yet we've seen no character art of him, have no confirmation that he's even definitely in the game at this point. Which we have both for Cullen, as well as a confirmation that he'll be a major romance-able character.

 

Again, I don't necessarily disagree with you. Cole is still an excellent candidate for a party rogue. I just don't see any reason to dismiss things as ludicrous when there's no practical reason it couldn't be true, and have no evidence disproving it.

what are you talking about? Cole is in every concept art. You just can't see him because he's invisible. :P


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#156
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Has anyone tried asking the devs over Twitter if they confirmed 3/3/3 at PAX? They don't give new information over Twitter, but they'll usually clarify information they've already given.  



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Has anyone tried asking the devs over Twitter if they confirmed 3/3/3 at PAX? They don't give new information over Twitter, but they'll usually clarify information they've already given.  

 

I don't think so. Or, at least, it wasn't answered.



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He's a companion who follows your party around on every mission, but sense he's invisible and you can't hear him, you will never know he was there.... even during romance scenes.... 

at least we don't have to worry about upsetting him or anything. I mean, he saw Evangeline get dressed and had no reaction whatsoever. 



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I don't think so. Or, at least, it wasn't answered.

I would try, but I don't have Twitter and I'm too lazy to make one just for this. lol



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Man, now that would be interesting? Maybe Cullen developed magic powers from Red Lyrium exposure? Can you imagine the boards imploding after a reveal like that? XD
 
As far as Cullen being fanservice, I would wonder why that was such a bad thing myself. We know that Bioware does take fan feedback into account. If they said, "Okay, we need a Templar rep for the Inquisition council, who's it going to be?" "What about Cullen? He's an established character who definitely isn't dead, and there are still some places to take his character." "Sure, plus there's a big Cullen fanbase. We wanted some of the NPCs to be romanceable anyway, right? We would really please some of the fans."
 
They've said repeatedly that fan requests are not the SOLE reason they do anything these days, but I've never heard them claim that they don't take fan reaction into consideration, and I don't see why it would be bad that they do.


I suppose, but I just dont see the point of having him as an ncp again. I would rather have him as a companion, or not at all quite frankly.
Absolutely, I recall Bioware indicating they wouldnt include a companion just for fan service, but would they include an ncp for such?,They indicated they wouldnt include a cameo as fluff, so give Cullen a role with some meat a nd add him as an LI and please some fans.

So for me, meh for Cullen as an NCP
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#161
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I would like Cullen to be a companion just because and Charade(but that's HIGHLY unlikey). The bearded Grey Warden is almost a certain, same with Sera.



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Cullens story is just so fascination I mean he was there for like the worst of mages/template conflicts.

 

He's truly seen both bad and good.

 

Even if he's not companion he could easily be a major or somewhat major NPC


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#163
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I am not bothered by the fact that Cullen is an npc. His role isn't too important. There are hundreds of templars who prefer peace and cooperation with the mages. It's just coincidence that Cullen is the one who got caught in the center of the conflict.

Anyway, 9 companions is fine. Hopefully they announce more. I want the dhmg to make it in the game.

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I suppose, but I just dont see the point of having him as an ncp again. I would rather have him as a companion, or not at all quite frankly.
Absolutely, I recall Bioware indicating they wouldnt include a companion just for fan service, but would they include an ncp for such?,They indicated they wouldnt include a cameo as fluff, so give Cullen a role with some meat a nd add him as an LI and please some fans.

So for me, meh for Cullen as an NCP

 

 

Hmm. What makes you think the NPC characters won't be "meaty," I wonder? Isn't that just a function of how they're written? I mean, I rather liked Leandra in DAII and Traynor in ME3. Dr. Chakwas never was given very much to do, but I really liked the character when she had something to say. Gabby and Ken, Admiral Anderson... I've been more attached to those NPC's than some party members.

 

I really think they intend for our envoys to be pretty involved with us. They're going to influence major decision we have to make as Inquisitor.



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The way I feel about Cullen is basically that I'd be fine with him being a companion if there were 10 slots, but I can't really say I wouldn't be disappointed to lose the warden, Dorian or Cole concepts for him. To me, it just seems like he doesn't have any new information to add to what we know about the world, which they do. We've already got Cassandra and Vivienne to cover the Chantry/Pro-Circle viewpoints. I like Cullen and I honestly can see why people want to romance him. It's just that I don't see as much potential for him as I do with the concepts he'd be replacing.

 

So, I guess what I'm basically saying is that I do like Cullen, but I like the other concepts even more.  :(



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Hmm. What makes you think the NPC characters won't be "meaty," I wonder? Isn't that just a function of how they're written? I mean, I rather liked Leandra in DAII and Traynor in ME3. Dr. Chakwas never was given very much to do, but I really liked the character when she had something to say. Gabby and Ken, Admiral Anderson... I've been more attached to those NPC's than some party members.

I really think they intend for our envoys to be pretty involved with us. They're going to influence major decision we have to make as Inquisitor.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I absolutely think Cullen's role as an NCP will be meaty for sure - especially because he will be a LI. Regardless, I still don't get why he would be an NCP and not a full companion.


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Sorry if I wasn't clear. I absolutely think Cullen's role as an NCP will be meaty for sure - especially because he will be a LI. Regardless, I still don't get why he would be an NCP and not a full companion.

 

Well, presumably because they had other people they wanted to use in the party member slots, and because they figured having Cullen AND a separate Templar rep who sticks around to argue with Lelianna would be overkill. Assuming, of course, that he really isn't a party member.



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Another Cullen thread? Oh wait.. Dem Cullen fans :D



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Lady Insanity's coverage of PAX indicates that there will be a 3/3/3 party split but Mike's tweet suggests there may be more than 3 warriors, so I wonder if some of our companions will be temporary.

 

This would mean that we could have a 3/3/3 split for the permanent party members but that others could join for important missions and then take up important NPC rolls after the mission.

 

For Example:

Cullen could be a temporary companion that fights beside the Inquisitor to help take over the main Red Templar base and then becomes a NPC advisor.


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#170
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I think the lineup is looking great so far. Really hoping DHMG is our final mage. 


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(This is my first post so forgive me if I'm stating something obvious)

 

In regards to GW and Cullen, what about a Hawke siblings/Virmire type of set up where you can only choose one? You support the Templars (If indeed Cullen is still with them) or you support the GW's and whichever faction you choose leads to a new party member.

 

I mean I have no issue with Cullen being an NPC FWIW so this isn't me clutching at straws just to shoehorn him in (Cause Bearded Warden? Be still my heart) but as everything is still relatively up in the air it seemed a curious idea to ponder and a potential reason why his status isn't confirmed.

 

/runs off.



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Lady Insanity's coverage of PAX indicates that there will be a 3/3/3 party split but Mike's tweet suggests there may be more than 3 warriors, so I wonder if some of our companions will be temporary.
 
This would mean that we could have a 3/3/3 split for the permanent party members but that others could join for important missions and then take up important NPC rolls after the mission.
 
For Example:
Cullen could be a temporary companion that fights beside the Inquisitor to help take over the main Red Templar base and then becomes a NPC advisor.


Do you have a link to Mike's tweet? Afaik he's never said anything about the companion roster except at PAX a few weeks ago, when he said there was an even spread.

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I always thought the bearded Warden was pretty much confirmed from what we've seen... could be wrong though.

Don't really care about Cullen, but if he has an interesting part, then why not?

 

Also my OCD is kicking in and I don't mean to be anal about it, but... isn't it spelled Rogue instead of Rouge?



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Do you have a link to Mike's tweet? Afaik he's never said anything about the companion roster except at PAX a few weeks ago, when he said there was an even spread.

 

My mistake it was David Gaider who tweeted something that might suggest there was not a 3/3/3 split but I just wrote it down rather than saving the link so ignore that part of my post since I can't find the link to back it up.

 

I still think it might be likely that we'll have some temporary companions this time around.



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I always thought the bearded Warden was pretty much confirmed from what we've seen... could be wrong though.

 

 

He hasn't been officially confirmed yet, but we've seen a brief glimpse of him in a gameplay vid as one of the Inquisitor's companions. Considering that and the fact that he appears in lots of concept art with the Inquisitor, it would be more surprising if he turned out not to be a companion.

 

He certainly seems far more likely to be the final warrior companion than Cullen.