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What would have happened had the Darkspawn "won" in Ferelden?


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Just replayed The Darkspawn Chronicles, and it got me thinking; would the Blight have spread to the whole world or would a country had stopped it, for example Orlais?

 

What do you think?



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Hanako Ikezawa

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If the Darkspawn won, the world would be a desolate, uninhabitable wasteland. 



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Do darkspawn throw parties?



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SwobyJ

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If Ferelden was taken, it would imo only take 1-2 more regions before the Darkspawn victory is assured. Orlais might stop them, maybe. But if they didn't, then all of Thedas is likely screwed. Wasteland.



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it would have been very bad....



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Then Orlais will have a lot on their plate, but then again the thousands of wardens from anderfels will most likely come down and lend a hand. One nation down is not to be taken likely after all.

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I imagine it actually wouldn't be that bad; the Frostbacks provide a fairly convenient natural barrier for Orlias to mount a defense from, as does the Waking Sea(though the darkspawn do possess at least some naval capabilities according to one of the epilogues).

 

If nothing else I would expect those two things would have stalled the horde long enough for the rest of Thedas to start mounting a defense.


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It would most probably be stopped at some point of time. Not sure how Orlais would have fared in the meantime though. Orlais had greater number of wardens, but at the same time they might not have had the aid of the Dwarves and the Dalish without the treaties. They might have required a really massive army to make up the difference. Ferelden got lucky, inspite of being outnumbered by the horde. If Riordan got himself killed before crippling the Archdemon, it would have been 'the end' for Ferelden right there.

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Bounderies on top wont stop the darkspawns.... they just tunnel through, but I suspect they already have entrances in orlais connected to Ostagar and the dwarven thaigs. We dont really know how far the darkspawn infested dwarven thaigs runs to start with.

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During a blight, Darkspawn movements seem to be primarily above ground. Can they get under the frostbacks? Sure. But their movements seem to be primarily over land, following the archdemon.



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Hero of Ferelden and Champion of Kirkwall* are good titles.

 

The Warden player character doesn't really necessarily save Thedas itself. For all we know as players, there would have been an organized enough defense in Orlais and otherwise, that the Darkspawn would have eventually been stopped.

 

But the point of Origins was to set up our initial impressions of Thedas, and to save the specific region of Ferelden.

 

So if the darkspawn won in Ferelden, the fate of Thedas is not a foregone conclusion, but Ferelden itself would be a real mess - an Anderfels. Almost everyone from there would have died, and many more would have died in the process of putting the Darkspawn down. Ferlden would be a wasteland for a long time, with Wardens/others keeping watch over it. Relatively few people would live there, because the ground would not be fertile for farming.

 

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*Hawke is not even necessarily much of a hero, so 'Champion' is a good title. He can be pretty anti-hero/self-centered if you want him to be, and he certainly doesn't 'save' Kirkwall much in the end. As a character, he did the best with his situation and environment, more or less.



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I suspect they get out anywhere theyre told to go by the archdemon I suppose. They have to get out of the deeproads anyway, why not straigh into orlais. But they would be well preped there nd they got shtloads of wardens and they dont have loghain :-p

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Do darkspawn throw parties?

Yes. With tea and cheese.


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"We'd all be speaking Darkspawn if it wasn't for the Wardens!"


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More than likely, considering how they become DS, they'd have a near limitless supply of converts.



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The Archdemon would have awarded all participating sentient Darkspawn the Order for Supreme Asskickery, 2nd class, and the Liberation of Ferelden, 1st class.



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How fitting that you mention Orlais. Im just reading the masked empire.

 

Spoiler Warning!!!!

 

Empress Celene has some short thoughts about the blight.

 

"What Orlais needed, she thought, was another Blight. Not that it would seriously help, and she would never wish such destruction upon her empire. But Blights were, if not easy, at least simple. Gather everyone who can fight, throw them at the darkspawn, and hope the Grey Wardens could destroy the Archdemon. Politics were put aside, eventually if not immediately..."



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From what I gather, every Blight before was like that. Near annihilation of Thedas. The first blight lasted hundreds (!) of years. The last one seemed more drawn out.. Garahel had to unite entire nations across a wider range. It's the DAO/Ferelden story that is the unique one.

 

The only thing is, I can't tell if this is to the Hero of Ferelden's credit or not. From the very beginning of the game, nobody really takes the blight seriously. Both Cailan and Loghain think they can squash it fairly quickly. Duncan is too secretive about what it'll take, and just goes along. Maybe we become the Hero of Ferelden because we're influenced by these idiots, and simply don't know better. Ignorance is bliss. If we really knew how bad a blight was, we might have never tried. lol

 

If anything, Flemeth is the only one who warns how bad it'll be, and that we have to use those treaties asap. Probably because she's actually experienced the other blights.



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The Wardens in Orlais were preparing for the Archdemon, I believe. But the Archdemon would have Ferelden to dwell in, multiplying its forces a lot more. Without the Warden and their ability to suddenly recruit several armies and take down a Blight in an impressive 1 year, I imagine we get the standard Blight that devastates Thedas and wrecks a whole bunch of countries.

 

In the long-run, Ferelden is probably destroyed, removing it from play for future politics. It survives only as another Anderfels. On the bright side, Orlais probably wouldn't invade it anymore.



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The Wardens in Orlais were preparing for the Archdemon, I believe. But the Archdemon would have Ferelden to dwell in, multiplying its forces a lot more. Without the Warden and their ability to suddenly recruit several armies and take down a Blight in an impressive 1 year, I imagine we get the standard Blight that devastates Thedas and wrecks a whole bunch of countries.

 

In the long-run, Ferelden is probably destroyed, removing it from play for future politics. It survives only as another Anderfels. On the bright side, Orlais probably wouldn't invade it anymore.

 

That doesn't seem to be the case in the epilogue. Whether it's Anora or Alistair or both, Ferelden rebuilds (the only info I specifically recall though is the Anora ending, where she wheels and deals and gets money/aid/trade from other nations).

 

edit: Oops. You meant if the Blight succeeded.

 

Then... yeah.