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On the other hand, he's writing two romances and two characters, one of them Cassandra. If Cole is in, he has to be the other one, and one of the writers (Mary Kirby, I think) said writers rarely if ever write the romances for the others' characters. It may very well be DG was just trolling us when he argued against Cole being a love interest
Doubt it.
Doubt it.
So do I. But hope is the last thing you should lose.
First you have to lose Cole xD
Anyway, who is supposed to write Cullen?
It's a popular theory that Gaider actually re-wrote Cullen after his old writer left Bioware. Cullen's writer isn't confirmed, though.
I know we let the Cole thing go, but I want to explain my perspective on it in a totally non-confrontational way, because it seems like everyone's still having the other side's argument go right by each other.
I started following the Inquisition info a few months ago. I read all the wiki info, scanned the forums, etc. The information I gathered about Cole leaned towards the theory that he was a spirit that became imprinted with the memories of a 12 year old mage boy, very likely a spirit of hope that was sliding towards becoming a demon of despair. At the end of the book, he realizes he isn't this little boy and his presence seemed much more mature, to me. I saw his survey profile and it also made me assume he would, at base, be much more adult-like. I assume spirits naturally have adult level reasoning and intelligence, because it seems the others we've seen so far do (if still a bit alien). I also assumed Cole must have matured if we're taking him into battle, because he was very scared and panicked when he had to fight before. So, my assumption from this evidence was that Cole would be an adult-like spirit that was struggling with good vs bad and being tormented by the memories of the little boy that "corrupted" his hope element and lead him on the despair path. I hadn't seen him as "having the mind of a 12 year old boy". I saw him as an adult that only retained the memories of a 12 year old boy that was never actually him.
When I saw David Gaider made his representation Evan Peters, of course that made him more appealing as a possible LI. I'm not going to pretend him being possibly the most attractive Bioware character design ever, by my standards, doesn't have any impact on my view. If he were a hideous monster, yes, I would not want to romance him. That's not the only reason, though. I could relate a lot to Cole's destructive behavior, his social anxiety paired with his desperate need to be seen by other people, that's all very personal, but it's something I can relate to in my own past. It's also because I think his character is interesting from a lore perspective and something we've never seen before.
I made this judgment on the character before I saw David Gaider say it was creepy that anyone had a romantic interest in him. Now I realize my estimation of Cole was probably wrong and he likely is going to retain a lot of childlike qualities. I mean, Gaider is writing him, he obviously knows more than I do about where his character is going. I'm not going to say that I know better than he does where he should take what appears to be one of his favorite creations. That would be rude and disrespectful. So, I accept that I was probably wrong about Cole and I'm sure he'll still be just as interesting of a character being off limits as a romance. He's still one of my favorite DA character concepts and I look forward to being his best friend as a companion.
Overall, though, I think the problem here is wildly different interpretations of a character that's still largely unexplained. Once we see him in game, I'm sure things will be a lot more clear.
For what it's worth, I think this was a very mature and eloquent expression of your perception and position. Kudos.
But the spirits are genderless, and if he isn't just a spirit, but a spirit in someone's body, then we'll have another possessed companion, sharing his mind, instead of Cole. Which would be a tad disappointing.
Spirits are said to be genderless, but some of them must still have all the physical anatomy. You can have sex with a desire demon in DA:O. Whether or not they enjoy sex, though, is another question.
It seems like Gaider said they were genderless in that thread asking for male desire demons a while back, but maybe I imagined it. 
It seems like Gaider said they were genderless in that thread asking for male desire demons a while back, but maybe I imagined it.
Gaider did indeed say they are "genderless". I simply think that they gain or "become" a gender through their gleanings into the mortal world.
It seems like Gaider said they were genderless in that thread asking for male desire demons a while back, but maybe I imagined it.
Spirits are said to be genderless, but some of them must still have all the physical anatomy. You can have sex with a desire demon in DA:O. Whether or not they enjoy sex, though, is another question.
Well they feed off desire, so I guess in a way they enjoy it
Spirits are said to be genderless, but some of them must still have all the physical anatomy. You can have sex with a desire demon in DA:O. Whether or not they enjoy sex, though, is another question.
But that is the question, if we're talking about romances, isn't it? Not a physical traits. And Desire demons - well, lust and everything attributed to it, it's what they are, their existence. Other spirits and demons didn't seem to have sensual attraction to any mortal.
I'm going to interpret that as meaning the majority don't have gender. I'd find it odd if gender was simply an impossibility or that no spirit anywhere managed to identify with the concept.
Edit: Assuming David actually said that.
They can present themselves as having gender, but it's not how they are.
They can present themselves as having gender, but it's not how they are.
I'm going to interpret that as meaning the majority don't have gender. I'd find it odd if gender was simply an impossibility or that no spirit anywhere managed to identify with the concept.
Edit: Assuming David actually said that. A quick google shows dozens of people saying that David/BioWare has confirmed they're genderless and no actual posts of David.
Gimme 10 seconds and I'll find the damn quote.
What are you basing this statement on?
Before we continue, do you see a difference between sex and gender?
On Gaider's statement. I hope elu will find it soon.
Sex as a physical trait, or sex as an act? I suppose you meant the former.
Gimme 10 seconds and I'll find the damn quote.
I mean the former. When you say spirits can present themselves has having gender, but that's not 'how they are,' are you saying a spirit can't see themselves as gendered?
No need to get hostile.
I'm saying, that gender makes no difference to them. They associate themselves with various emotions, not appearances.
Bah, english is hard. Hope you understood what I meant.
No need to get hostile.
My ire is not directed at you. Apologies.
Is it difficult to believe spirits/demons don't have a concept of gender, the way humans/elves/dwarves/qunari do?
I'm saying, that gender makes no difference to them. They associate themselves with various emotions, not appearances.
Bah, english is hard. Hope you understood what I meant.
Is it difficult to believe spirits/demons don't have a concept of gender, the way humans/elves/dwarves/qunari do?
Spirits build themselves around mortal emotions and ideals. With the exception of masculinity and femininity, ideals are gender neutral.
Spirits build themselves around mortal concepts.
Why would the concept of Justice be something a spirit could embody, but not Femininity?
I see what you're saying. and I suppose that somewhere out there in the Fade, there might be a Spirit of Femininity (and perhaps a Spirit of Tipping Well, lol)
Because gender is such a social construct, however, I don't think it is something the denizens of the Fade have naturally. It might be something a spirit would seek out, as part of that coveted mortal experience, but I'm not convinced a spirit could ever truly grasp the concept. 
...that kinda makes me want to see one, now. Would be interesting.
But Cole isn't a spirit of Femininity, nor Masculinity, so we can assume that he is genderless.
But Cole isn't a spirit of Femininity, nor Masculinity, so we can assume that he is genderless.
Yeah, the only way I could see spirit Cole identifying with a gender is through his connection to the human Cole.
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