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[Maria Caliban]

I see what you're saying. and I suppose that somewhere out there in the Fade, there might be a Spirit of Femininity (and perhaps a Spirit of Tipping Well, lol)

Sure, and there might be a spirit/demon who isn't based around gender but has picked up the concept and applied it to themselves.
 

Because gender is such a social construct, however, I don't think it is something the denizens of the Fade have naturally. It might be something a spirit would seek out, as part of that coveted mortal experience, but I'm not convinced a spirit could ever truly grasp the concept. 
 
...that kinda makes me want to see one, now. Would be interesting.

It's not something denizens of the mortal realm have naturally either. Rather, it's something we learn as we grow. Spirits seem to absorb mortal concepts is a more diffused way and don't always understand the reality that gives rise to them.

I'd say that both Justice and Vengeance are built around mortal experiences of irreparable harm. If you cut my arm off, it's not going to regrow. If you kill me, I won't return. If you steal everything I own, my life will be one of destitution. The nature of Spirits is one where you don't have irreparable harm. There doesn't seem to be permanent death and everything can be regrown, and spirits can apparently craft their own little domains where things are as they wish.

A spirit who identifies with a gender will probably do so in a way that doesn't quite fit, and it may feel far less meaningful to them, but I still think they could do so.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

It's also possible that spirits can develop a gender with no sexual interest, sexual interest with no gender, or even a romantic interest with no gender and no sexual interest. So, for the purposes of the thread, we're basically working at not enough information to know this much about the nature of spirits. 

 

All we really know is that spirits seem to tend towards obsession with mortal concepts, which could inspire them to adopt these concepts into their identity. 

[ladyoflate]

It's also possible that spirits can develop a gender with no sexual interest, sexual interest with no gender, or even a romantic interest with no gender and no sexual interest. So, for the purposes of the thread, we're basically working at not enough information to know this much about the nature of spirits. 

 

All we really know is that spirits seem to tend towards obsession with mortal concepts, which could inspire them to adopt these concepts into their identity. 

Well considering those are all actual things irl, although I would tend to assume part of the point of being a spirit is that you can assume all identitites simultaneously in a super mind-boggling way.

[Allan Schumacher]

Funny thing, I remember DG mentioned that not all DA2 LIs were "bi". He mentioned that their SO varied depending on what character you are playing. The only "real" bi in the game is actually Isabela.

 

Was this actually stated, or is it something that you think he said?

[fiveforchaos]

Was this actually stated, or is it something that you think he said?

Dave Gaider's kinda like the Morgan Freeman of BSN, any and all quotes will at some point be associated with him. 

[Allan Schumacher]

Dave Gaider's kinda like the Morgan Freeman of BSN, any and all quotes will at some point be associated with him. 

 

Haha.  I know people have definitely attributed things I have said to David.

[SurelyForth]

Was this actually stated, or is it something that you think he said?

 

I think Gaider's comments on the topic have all been "believe what you want to believe, but". For example, Anders:

 

 

"“No matter who the player is, Karl was always someone [Anders] was romantically involved with,” says Gaider. “The part of him the player is exposed to, however, is different. Anders doesn’t mention Karl to a female Hawke because Jennifer Hepler [Anders’ writer] didn’t think he would — and also because a player who prefers to think of Anders as straight is welcome to do so.”

[Allan Schumacher]

 

I think Gaider's comments on the topic have all been "believe what you want to believe, but". For example, Anders:

 

 

"“No matter who the player is, Karl was always someone [Anders] was romantically involved with,” says Gaider. “The part of him the player is exposed to, however, is different. Anders doesn’t mention Karl to a female Hawke because Jennifer Hepler [Anders’ writer] didn’t think he would — and also because a player who prefers to think of Anders as straight is welcome to do so.”

 

 

Fair enough.  Although it's a somewhat paradoxical statement, given that it definitively states that Anders has a relationship with Karl regardless.

[Shaen Mac Tir]

Was this actually stated, or is it something that you think he said?

 

It's what I think he said. Maybe it was said by someone else, but I'm pretty sure that it was David (he likes that sort of topics, hehe). I can't remember his actual words but he was describing the thing that is called here "playersexuality".

[Marvik]

Zevran return, please!))

[Jazinto]

Fair enough.  Although it's a somewhat paradoxical statement, given that it definitively states that Anders has a relationship with Karl regardless.

 

Anders has always been with Karl, but if someone wants to believe that Anders is straight they can. I think it's a matter of perception. Just as everyone is free to think that the Inquisitor is the Old God Baby. Doesn't mean it's true, but you can believe what you want. There is room for interpretation.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Just as everyone is free to think that the Inquisitor is the Old God Baby. Doesn't mean it's true, but you can believe what you want. There is room for interpretation.

 

I doubt that's going to remain open to interpretation after Inquisition actually ships.The likelihood of Morrigan at least mentioning her son (Old God imbued or otherwise) in universes where he exists seems high, and we might even catch a glimpse of him.

[Shark17676]

It may very well be DG was just trolling us when he argued against Cole being a love interest  

 

When Gaider flat-out says that it's creepy to want to romance someone with the mind of a child (which I agree with), I highly doubt he was "just trolling us" in any way.

[Farewell]

Well I don't think either that inquisitor is the Old God Baby. Maybe we will see that child in DAI or hear about him. However I could see that he might have an important role in Dragon Age series if there will be a sequel to DAI but I don't think he could be a protagonist.

[Gwydden]

When Gaider flat-out says that it's creepy to want to romance someone with the mind of a child (which I agree with), I highly doubt he was "just trolling us" in any way.

I wasn't being completely serious with that statement. I delight in giving false hope. I am sure he would too, if it wasn't such a terrible marketing strategy xD.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Joke answer to the Cole situation;

 

I knew Cole didn't really have the mind of a child when he realized there was a limit for stupid questions. 

[Mockingword]

Joke answer to the Cole situation;

 

I knew Cole didn't really have the mind of a child when he realized there was a limit for stupid questions. 

I wonder what that says about most of the internet.

[Farewell]

Do you prefer naive or more mature LIs?  or something else?

[TheJediSaint]

Do you prefer naive or more mature LIs?  or something else?

 

What does Bianca count as? 

[Farewell]

What does Bianca count as? 

Substitute?

[Farewell]

Do you prefer naive or more mature LIs?  or something else?

I prefer more mature male LIs for female protagonists. It would be nice to have a little bit older (over 30) LI who knows himself and isn't afraid of my protagonist and doesn't need rescuing or help. It would be also nice that the LI could help my protagonist instead of my protagonist is helping him in his problems.
 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

"Mature" or "naive" alone aren't really going to sway me in either direction. I do like intelligent LI options. Inexperience isn't necessarily a problem, but I don't need them to be inexperienced. Intelligence is sort of the base I expect from a companion, anyway, though. 

[Jazinto]

Well I don't think either that inquisitor is the Old God Baby. Maybe we will see that child in DAI or hear about him. However I could see that he might have an important role in Dragon Age series if there will be a sequel to DAI but I don't think he could be a protagonist.

 

Depends on the Dragon Age team. Not everyone did the dark ritual. They would have to pull a ME3 and say "screw your previous choices, the OGB exists anyway." Unless they're going to do that the OGB can't have a significant part anywhere.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I wouldn't be that surprised if they didn't eventually just say she found an alternate way to make the OGB happen, but I think it could depend on what the statistics look like on how many people performed the ritual.    

[Farewell]

Depends on the Dragon Age team. Not everyone did the dark ritual. They would have to pull a ME3 and say "screw your previous choices, the OGB exists anyway." Unless they're going to do that the OGB can't have a significant part anywhere.

I think that OGB can exists even if you didn't do the ritual. Morrigan just had plan B. But if you did the ritual then Morrigan will call it him so OGB is a boy and I think OGB is most likely to be human. Because we can choose our gender and race in DAI then I don't see that the protagonist is OGB. And I'm not sure how old OGB is in DAI. I don't think he will be 20 - 40 which I think is the age which you are suppose to be in DAI.