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#3451
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Noooo you're not supposed to agree with it nooooo!
 

 

I don't agree with it...just like it!

 

Mainly on the female end of things...I personally don't care which males are romanceable or not.

 

 

Pretty sure it's the Inquisitor; it's got the red cloth and the green glowy hand.

 

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#3452
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I want to shoot it down, because both the romances for straight Femquisitors would be white human warrior dudes, one a companion and one an NPC*. Plus, it's pretty human heavy overall, which I can't see ultimately being the case unless they have excellent reasons for Varric, Iron Bull, and Solas all being unromanceable.

 

 

Why is the class important to a romance? I can see how a mage might prefer to get involved with another mage, but what's the difference for the rest?

They already had the chance to make Varric a romance in DAII and they decided not to. So far all DA LIs have been elves and humans. Maybe they've looked at the ME statistics and at how many people romanced non-humans. (I don't think these numbers have ever been published, but there is a completely meaningless survey by dorkly.com)



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You mean as in Scribe Girl/Scribbles? If Cassandra were bi, she could still be the "main" romance option for straight male Inquisitors.

But straight males would only get one companion romance while lesbians get two and I just think it's unlikely.   



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@ Surelyforth:
I too would be disappointed to have so many human romances when the Mass Effect series took a step towards diversification. With the fem!Inquisitor there is potential for a lot of different races as love interests. For the male Inquisitor, it seems Sera is the only non-human of the female bunch. (And it would be odd to make her female exclusive then... hm...)

 

 

Sera is really the companion throwing me off the most. I mean, she's a cute female elf who serves as a marked counterpoint, personality wise, to the other female companions...I kind of see her as the Tali to Cass and Vivienne's Miranda and Jack. Both Miranda and Jack are awesome, but they're also both the sort of characters that can illicit strong negative reactions depending on how you RP, while Tali exists in a much more neutral space. Now Scribe Girl might very well occupy the spot that balances out Cassandra/Vivienne, but I feel like Sera, as a non-human companion has precedence on her side.

 

But on the other hand, if they want to move away from their own fairly predictable models, having Sera be f/f only would do just that. 

 

Aside from that, I am genuinely concerned that Cullen will be the "main" male LI for female Inquisitors. I find him to be interesting as a character, and I adore Greg Ellis' VA work in general, but I'm wary of it being a NPC romance and one that might undermine the potential he has to continue being interesting. I'd much rather that space be occupied by a companion, but if the Warden is the only other male they could get, given his age and the fact that he's a Warden, I could see a lot of people being really, really underwhelmed. Especially with the neverending font of dwarven testosterone, Magey McTightpants, and DHMG all right there



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But straight males would only get one companion romance while lesbians get two and I just think it's unlikely.   

 

Yeah, if the Dragon Age statistics are anywhere near those of Mass Effect where 80% of players chose a male character I don't see male characters getting the short end of the stick.



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What if there were no "main" romances? :whistle:


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What if there were no "main" romances? :whistle:

 

Cassandra not being romanceable? That would be a first.

 

I don't see why there wouldn't be. I think the romances which weave into the plot (rather than being a cut off side story) can easily be the best.



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Yeah, if the Dragon Age statistics are anywhere near those of Mass Effect where 80% of players chose a male character I don't see male characters getting the short end of the stick.

 

Yeah, and I can see them easily getting a straight female and gay male exclusive companion option.



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What if there were no "main" romances? :whistle:

This would be ideal, imo. 



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What if there were no "main" romances? :whistle:

No main romance would be nice! In DAO Alistair imo was the main romance at least that's what it felt like and in DA2 anders gave off the same "main romance" vibe. Again just my opinion! Not complaining either btw!



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I thought DA2 was a bit more balanced than DA:O with the "main" romance thing, but Fenris was easily the odd one out of the four. 



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Why is the class important to a romance? I can see how a mage might prefer to get involved with another mage, but what's the difference for the rest?

They already had the chance to make Varric a romance in DAII and they decided not to. So far all DA LIs have been elves and humans. Maybe they've looked at the ME statistics and at how many people romanced non-humans. (I don't think these numbers have ever been published, but there is a completely meaningless survey by dorkly.com)

 
For me it's important because I like to play female warriors who romance male mages/healer-types. It's a role reversal that I find interesting. Plus, there's personality and lore relevance-  rogues have typically brought levity to the group while mages have an entirely different outlook due to their experiences. I'm not saying the Warden won't be interesting, but I just think he'd be a much more redundant LI than any of the other male companions (minus Cole). 
 
And, according to that survey, Garrus was the most romanced male LI by far, so I can't imagine they're that worried about anti-human bias.
 

But straight males would only get one companion romance while lesbians get two and I just think it's unlikely.   

 

They'd still get either Cassandra or Sera, if one of them were bisexual. 



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What is meant by "main" romance anyway?



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Cassandra not being romanceable? That would be a first.

 

I don't see why there wouldn't be. I think the romances which weave into the plot can easily be the best.

 

 

Cassandra is romanceable.  It's more the idea of what does it mean to be a "main" romance.  Many people list Morrigan and Alistair from the first game, since they were romanceable and still had some crit path heavy plot elements.

 

Some say Anders and to a lesser extent Isabela.  Again, this is because they are more tightly woven into the plot (I challenge Isabela, however, since I believe she can be entirely skipped as a companion character, and by the same token I could argue Merril is one because she has some crit path elements to her as well).

 

 

I think that on some level, if a character that happens to be romanceable does anything of significance with respect to the main plot of the game, that character is at risk of being "the main romance."  I'm not sure I necessarily agree, but then again I am willing to concede that Alistair and Morrigan were more plot intertwined.

 

I'm probably not the best person to definitively state "yes" or "no" on whether or not there is a "main romance" because I also have a bias in that romance content isn't super vital to me in large part because I typically find it ancillary to the main plot.  I just say this to not read too much into me sassing you guys, but I do think that some people may inadvertently undermine how much they enjoy the game because of an expectation that may not be true.  That is, if someone is expecting Cassandra to be the "main romance" then there's a predisposition to read more into the character and the romance than what really is there.  And if you don't want that, it'll leave you feeling jaded.


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What is meant by "main" romance anyway?


romance that has the most impact in story, atleast imo

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I thought DA2 was a bit more balanced than DA:O with the "main" romance thing, but Fenris was easily the odd one out of the four. 

Only for recruitment, Merrill wasnt connected to the plot aside from her recruitment, at the End no matter what you chose I THINK that Fenris still stays with the Templars until you ask him to come back, could be wrong about that.



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They'd still get either Cassandra or Sera, if one of them were bisexual. 

Yes, but they would get one companion romance and one NPC romance, where as lesbians would get two companion romances. This is almost universally seen as the short end of the stick. It could happen, but I would be really shocked. 


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I'm honestly hoping for the Grey Warden to be a LI. From the artwork he seems like a funny, old pal. 

 

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And well, I'm sick of romances like Fenris and Anders. I need humor, kindness and fun.

 

 


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#3469
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Only for recruitment, Merrill wasnt connected to the plot aside from her recruitment, at the End no matter what you chose I THINK that Fenris still stays with the Templars until you ask him to come back, could be wrong about that.

I considered Merrill important to the plot. Isabela is important to the Qunari plot and Merrill is important to the Dalish plot. Neither of them are really the "main" story, which I'd consider the mage vs templar conflict to be, which is why I think Anders is the one most universally agreed as a "main" romance. Merrill, to me, is definitely more important than Fenris. The Dalish make up a good portion of the game and you go back to them for various side quests throughout the game. The Eluvians look to have a wider range of importance throughout the series. On the other hand, you could take Fenris and his associated content out of the game and almost nothing would change.   



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Perhaps there isn't 6, but 8 romance options then. Then again, now I'm getting into the usual speculation territory you all have probably been over a dozen times, which is not what I'm wanting to do. I just want to have a glimmer of hope that my theory is incorrect and simply coincidence.

@ Surelyforth:
I guess we'll just have to see how each characters personalities play out. But I see what you're getting at. Making the (what we are completely assuming to be) neutral, and therefore possibly more spunky and energetic, female character female exclusive would be unconventional. Especially
if the other females are more serious and set in their ways. But, then again, we have yet to know of the one called the 'scribe girl'.

 

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In any event I think this is enough for me to dismiss my theory, or at least recognize it is not entirely true. Thank you.

 


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#3471
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Helllloooo everyone in the Romance Discussion thread!

I hope you are all headstrong and confident individuals who love to argue, because I'm in desperate need of a personal romance theory to be shot down.

(I'm putting it under a spoiler because it is a bit upsetting annnddd it will take up the page otherwise.)

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It seems pretty plausible. Cullen and Scribbles are LIs for sure. So is Cassandra. Dorian and Sera do look very LI-ish. Grey Warden? Well, why not?
I still hope for IB, but I wouldn't be surprised

#3472
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romance that has the most impact in story, atleast imo

 

That's how I thought of it, like Isabela/Anders for DA2 and Alistair for Origins


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Is there really a "conventional" assignment for homosexual LIs? We've only seen two largely unimportant NPCs given the designation so far. It seems odd to me to guess what would be the conventional choice for them. The whole decision is unconventional.   



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Is there really a "conventional" assignment for homosexual LIs? We've only seen two largely unimportant NPCs given the designation so far. It seems odd to me to guess what would be the conventional choice for them. The whole decision is unconventional.   

 

What do you mean?  Like, if they are companion vs. NPC?

 

I think gender will influence it.  Like I said, I can see having a gay male companion romance but definitely not a lesbian one.  

 

The only way I can see there being a lesbian one is if all three females in the party are romances.  But most seem to leave poor Vivienne out b/c she's a big meanie head and having all three women available is bad or something.  They could still do it I suppose.



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As long as i don't come away feeling like the game keeps telling me that i'm really meant to be romancing another character(ME3-Liara i'm speaking of you) i rarely notice this whole concept of main romances. I can't say i'd even of considered the issue in relation to the dragon age romances i'd experienced. Leilana & Morrigan certainly seemed tied to the story in DAO and all romances in DA2 seemed to have various ties to the unfolding story.