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[Mes]

Oh, I think set sexualities within the world itself is quite appropriate.  When it comes to LIs, however, I think it just adds unnecessary gate limitations on people's roleplaying and personal story-creation that they wish to see.  As I said in my previous post a minute ago, we have companions and advisers and countless major and minor NPCs out in the world that can be colored with diversity and representation of various sexualities, and show many different kinds of relationships beyond even what an Main Character and LI could have.  As a racial minority and a sexual orientation minority, yes, it IS important to see "myself" represented and acknowledged within our media.  I understand that completely and personally.  It has meaning.  

 

I just fail to see why the rule of measure for such representation and diversity needs to solely revolve around LIs themselves.   

 

Hey um... I just realized my replies don't really relate to your posts. I'm sorry I'm very distracted today. You just mentioned something that set me off on a tangent about stuff I've been thinking about. I'm sorry if it doesn't make sense.

 

I agree with you that not limiting companions in a sexuality way would be best.

[Ryzaki]

I don't count flings. 

 

Yes, HN was the only origin who could establish themselves as bisexual or homosexual prior to meeting Leliana and Zevran.

 

Fair enough.

 

I'm just saying if you were a gay Warden you were pretty much stuck with Leliana or Zev to express your preferences if you weren't a HN.
 

[Mes]

I was just disappointed at first.

 

Now I'm annoyed by the news since I've convinced myself I will get the short-end of the stick again (I'm pretty sure the lesbian-only option will be with the non-companion).  Honestly, if the non-companion LI thing wasn't happening, I'd still be disappointed but accepting.  

 

I'm very worried about getting the short end of the stick as well.

 

I feel like limiting LIs always ends up favoring heterosexual relationships. I'm straight myself, but I prefer to romance companions of the same gender because it feels more "equal" to me.

[Ryzaki]

I'm very worried about getting the short end of the stick as well.

 

I feel like limiting LIs always ends up favoring heterosexual relationships. I'm straight myself, but I prefer to romance companions of the same gender because it feels more "equal" to me.

 

I'm not surprised it does considering I'm pretty sure the m/f romances are a larger slice of the pie than the s/s ones. If I was a dev I'd put more of my effort into content I'd know would see more use.

[BubbleDncr]

I was just disappointed at first.

 

Now I'm annoyed by the news since I've convinced myself I will get the short-end of the stick again (I'm pretty sure the lesbian-only option will be with the non-companion).  Honestly, if the non-companion LI thing wasn't happening, I'd still be disappointed but accepting.  

 

I agree that if they go with the 2/2/2 route, have 2 of them being non-companions is lame. Some people think the bi characters will be the non-companions, but that still seems unfair to me unless all the LI companions are equally important to the plot (a la Alistair and Morrigan)...which probably won't happen.

 

I'm actually hoping for the companions to be bi and gay, with the non-companions being straight. Because that seems to make the most sense to me, based on what I think each of the companions are like (based solely on their appearance).

[wright1978]

I was just disappointed at first.
 
Now I'm annoyed by the news since I've convinced myself I will get the short-end of the stick again (I'm pretty sure the lesbian-only option will be with the non-companion).  Honestly, if the non-companion LI thing wasn't happening, I'd still be disappointed but accepting.

Personally I'm worried that there will be no companion LI choice with just npc bi appendages to maintain the pretense.
Until I hear that there's still 2 min companion li options per orientation I'm at annoyed rather than disappointed but accepting.

[Deviija]

 

 

So back to the sexualities thing - yeah they may throw in a gay guy NPC in some village or stationed at some keep, but it would not be as effective as having a gay companion.

 

I'm only saying this stuff because I'm beginning to warm up to the idea of the 2/2/2 split, even though I would honestly still prefer bi/playersexual.

 

Indeed, this is also why I pointed out -- if we did have 4 bi companions -- we still have roughly *five* companions and *three* advisers that can be lavished with various sexual orientations and relationship types as well.  Having Cullen speak about his boyfriend, or the Grey Warden talk about his interest in both Sera and Solas, or Vivienne turning down the Inquisitor when she/he hits on her and explaining she's asexual and not interested in romance at this point in time, or chatting it up with Cassandra over how you both like men while playing as a Dudequisitor, so on and so forth.  As companions, they have larger roles, like you were describing, and can be shown as significant representation and diversity.  They don't have to be LIs to have ample representation and interaction with your player's sexuality roleplay.  I mentioned NPCs within the world as secondary, as that too is still important to see beyond just your close main character friends.  

[Hellion Rex]

I'm not surprised it does considering I'm pretty sure the m/f romances are a larger slice of the pie than the s/s ones. If I was a dev I'd put more of my effort into content I'd know would see more use.

Doesn't make it suck any less.

[Mes]

I'm not surprised it does considering I'm pretty sure the m/f romances are a larger slice of the pie than the s/s ones. If I was a dev I'd put more of my effort into content I'd know would see more use.

 

Meh. While I'm sure you're right that more people would play heterosexual, I think we still can't really assume anything... and besides, if more of the bi/gay companions were more fleshed out, maybe the numbers would change. Who knows.

[Sylvianus]

Anyways people aren't really interested by fairness with npc romances. They hope that they won't have the npc-lI as gay or lesbian, but at the same time they hope that the npc Li is straight. This is also something that makes me less feel sympathetic. People are just concerned for what they want. . 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I think they need a 2/4/2 route: 2 straight companions, 2 bi companions, 2 bi NPCs, and 2 gay companions.

[Hellion Rex]

People are just concerned for what they want. . 

And you are not?

[Hellion Rex]

I think they need a 2/4/2 route: 2 straight companions, 2 bi companions, 2 bi NPCs, and 2 gay companions.

I still think 8 LIs is stretching it, though I wouldn't mind non-LI followers of differing sexualities.

[Ryzaki]

Doesn't make it suck any less.

 

Terrible lighting in Steve's romance. God. I know different team but still *shudders*

 

Meh. While I'm sure you're right that more people would play heterosexual, I think we still can't really assume anything... and besides, if more of the bi/gay companions were more fleshed out, maybe the numbers would change. Who knows.

 

I know I'm meh about it myself

 

Hopefully that's the case. But completely gay companions are at least a little YAY route. I just hope the plot heavy companions are bi.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I still think 8 LIs is stretching it, though I wouldn't mind non-LI followers of differing sexualities.

It's the only way it is fair. Everyone has 2 companions and an NPC they can romance.

[Hellion Rex]

Terrible lighting in Steve's romance. God. I know different team but still *shudders*

That still bugs the ever living hell out of me.

[Sylvianus]

And you are not?

 

No, and I said it several times. I said that I wanted Cullen and Scribbe girl as BI, because I don't want to see lesbian folks screwed. I also said that if male players get 3 companions romances while the female players get two companions and one npc, it would make me uncomfortable and also I didn't want that to happen. I didn't want anyone screwed. 

 

But that was before, now I don't care.

[Hellion Rex]

It's the only way it is fair. Everyone has 2 companions and an NPC they can romance.

No, don't get me wrong. I'd love for it to be true, but I still think it's way too many LIs.

[karushna5]

I think they need a 2/4/2 route: 2 straight companions, 2 bi companions, 2 bi NPCs, and 2 gay companions.

I really believe they will go this route. Heres hoping.

[Ianamus]

It's the only way it is fair. Everyone has 2 companions and an NPC they can romance.

 

I don't see how 2/2/2 with the NPC's bisexual is any less fair. Everyone gets one companion and one non-companion.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Anyways people aren't really interested by fairness with npc romances. They hope that they won't have the npc-lI as gay or lesbian, but at the same time they hope that the npc Li is straight. This is also something that makes me less feel sympathetic. People are just concerned for what they want. . 

I've always consistently said I hoped the NPCs were bisexual for fairness. Please don't generalize everyone to support your own ideal of the opposition.   

[wright1978]

I don't see how 2/2/2 with the NPC's bisexual is any less fair. Everyone gets one companion and one non-companion.

Everyone suffers equally in having no real li companion choice. Not what I would consider something to celebrate.

[Ianamus]

Everyone suffers equally in having no real li companion choice. Not what I would consider something to celebrate.

 

I'd hardly call the choice between one LI that you can have with you for the entire game and one that you can only speak frequently "suffering". Particularly not when the game in question has so much content that said NPC romances could very well end up with more lines and content then companion romances in Dragon Age 2. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I don't see how 2/2/2 with the NPC's bisexual is any less fair. Everyone gets one companion and one non-companion.

Because there are no bisexual companions.