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Doesn't matter. Limiting player choices will always, and I mean always, be a negative for a RPG. No matter how well the romances are in this game, it is still a step backwards.
So in a tabletop RPG the GM should have everyone one of the players hit in answer favorably? And take into account that one on one sessions (one GM with only one player) do exist.
I don't know why bioware even bother with npc's LI. Honestly, they aren't as interesting as the companion's romances. For example, for me as a gay, I prefer 100 times Kaidan over Cortez (even though I consider cortez more attractive than kaidan).
I totally agree. I don't think I'll ever be convinced that a NPC LI is even worth including in the game. "But it's nice to have someone stationed somewhere so you could 'come home' to them" Yeah yeah yeah, whatever. I don't buy it. 
I totally agree. I don't think I'll ever be convinced that a NPC LI is even worth including in the game. "But it's nice to have someone stationed somewhere so you could 'come home' to them" Yeah yeah yeah, whatever. I don't buy it.
Yeah, I agree. They feel painfully lacking compared with companion romances. Some might say that's just perception, but then perception is everything.
They've refused to confirm or deny any other restrictions.
Tricksy hobbits.
So in a tabletop RPG the GM should have everyone one of the players hit in answer favorably? And take into account that one on one sessions (one GM with only one player) do exist.
Tabletops are way different though - those games can literally go on forever, with infinitely more content than a RPG video game.
Because that way people have options among their companions on who to romance.
That makes it better, but not fairer. Either way everybody has the same amount of options, and the same number of companions.
That makes it arguably better, but not fairer. Either way everybody has the same amount of options.
Sure it does.
Straight Men: 2 companions
Straight Women: 2 companions
Gay Men: 2 companions
Gay Women: 2 companions
How is this not fairer to people who want options among companions?
Sure it does.
Straight Men: 2 companions
Straight Women: 2 companions
Gay Men: 2 companions
Gay Women: 2 companions
How is this not fairer to people who want options among companions?
I agree with you, but just to play Devil's Advocate... you forgot a group.
Bisexual Men: 4 companions.
Bisexual Women: 4 companions.
Doesn't matter. Limiting player choices will always, and I mean always, be a negative for a RPG. No matter how well the romances are in this game, it is still a step backwards.
Fair enough.
I totally agree. I don't think I'll ever be convinced that a NPC LI is even worth including in the game. "But it's nice to have someone stationed somewhere so you could 'come home' to them" Yeah yeah yeah, whatever. I don't buy it.
See I actually wouldn't mind a NPC romance if it's said they and the protag were together before the game started. That gives them a edge over the companion romances that can somewhat equal them out vs the whole traveling around with the PC thing. And of course having them tightly woven in the plot. But that'd probably come real close to canon LI status. I guess it could work if they were childhood friends with the protagonist, having the antagonist threaten them and they are actually the antagonist/working for the antagonist for justified reasons of course. But again that'd end up with them being a Alistair/Morriganish plot relevant LI without being a companion (because they can't do their dastardly deeds if they're sitting at camp ) But I love Foe Yay and Dating Catwoman tropes so...yeah. That's one of the only ways I can see me preferring an NPC romance of a companion one. That and the companion just being utterly terrible.
I agree with you, but just to play Devil's Advocate... you forgot a group.
Bisexual Men: 4 companions.
Bisexual Women: 4 companions.
If you count bisexuals, it'll never be fair. By definition, someone who is attracted to both men and women have more options than those who are attracted to one.
Whether the lack of 2 companion choices is "fair" or not is bordering on semantic. The fact is, everyone had the choice of 2 companion LIs last time. This time, at least some people probably will not. It's easy to see where that leads to disappointment. Our options this time, at least for some people if not everyone, probably wont be equivalent to our choices with the system from DA2.
Fair enough.
See I actually wouldn't mind a NPC romance if it's said they and the protag were together before the game started. That gives them a edge over the companion romances that can somewhat equal them out vs the whole traveling around with the PC thing. And of course having them tightly woven in the plot. But that'd probably come real close to canon LI status. I guess it could work if they were childhood friends with the protagonist, having the antagonist threaten them and they are actually the antagonist/working for the antagonist for justified reasons of course. But again that'd end up with them being a Alistair/Morriganish plot relevant LI without being a companion (because they can't do their dastardly deeds if they're sitting at camp
Yeah good point - if they really integrated the NPCs into the plot, complete with cutscenes showing what they're up to while the PC is traversing the world, that might work.
I have serious doubt they'd do that for Cullen and Scribe Girl, though. 
Whether the lack of 2 companion choices is "fair" or not is bordering on semantic. The fact is, everyone had the choice of 2 companion LIs last time. This time, at least some people probably will not. It's easy to see where that leads to disappointment. Our options this time, at least for some people if not everyone, probably wont be equivalent to our choices with the system from DA2.
I think 1 companion/ 1 non-companion for all would be fine with everyone having to sacrifice a companion LI due to gated gender.
Before it's mentioned, yes I know bisexual PCs will have more than 1 companion option.
Truly, for all we know Cullen is the only NPC romance. It may just be me, but Scribbles just doesn't give a romance vibe.
Truly, for all we know Cullen is the only NPC romance. It may just be me, but Scribbles just doesn't give a romance vibe.
That'd be even worse.
Truly, for all we know Cullen is the only NPC romance. It may just be me, but Scribbles just doesn't give a romance vibe.
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I don't know why Bioware would confirm two character romances but not say if they are inclusive or not. This is what frustrates me because we know that they will be available to the opposite sex why not let everyone know.
I'd be more surprised if she wasn't, tbh. I'd think she'd be one just for the sale of balance, and (if they go 2/2/2) so that not all of the female companions are LIs.
I pray to the Maker every day that she's not.
Morrigan did tell me once that the Maker wasn't real so this might be a bad idea.
I pray to the Maker every day that she's not.
Morrigan did tell me once that the Maker wasn't real so this might be a bad idea.
Why not, out of curiosity?
Yeah good point - if they really integrated the NPCs into the plot, complete with cutscenes showing what they're up to while the PC is traversing the world, that might work.
I have serious doubt they'd do that for Cullen and Scribe Girl, though.
It could be. And give us insight to their thoughts more than a few conversations with the protag could.
Exactly which is why I'm meh to the thought of NPC romances being equal to companion ones.
Why not, out of curiosity?
I'm pretty sure she'll be the 'lesbian exclusive' option. She almost has to be...I see no other way for them to add in a lesbian only romance without having 3 female companions as romance.
I have nothing against her personally.
I pray to the Maker every day that she's not.
Morrigan did tell me once that the Maker wasn't real so this might be a bad idea.
They've confirmed there will be gay, bi and straight LIs, so we do know they'll be gating by gender.
I don't recall them ever saying LI. They've confirmed that there will be straight, bi and gay characters. Feel free to correct me if I remembered wrong.
I'm pretty sure she'll be the 'lesbian exclusive' option. She almost has to be...I see no other way for them to add in a lesbian only romance without having 3 female companions as romance.
I have nothing against her personally.
I disagree, only because they just did that with Samantha Traynor. I think she'll be bisexual with Cullen to even things out,. but maybe that's me being foolishly optimistic again.
I don't recall them ever saying LI. They've confirmed that there will be straight, bi and gay characters. Feel free to correct me if I remembered wrong.
They were talking about LIs. The original tweet was in response to a question about the article previously released on gender gating by Lee, then David Gaider followed up another romance discussion saying there would be gay, bi and straight LIs. They were talking about LIs, not characters, generally.
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