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Generally I'm thinking the romances are going to be expanded with this one, like how Mass Effect 2 had 6 companion LIs (Jacob, Garrus and Thane, Miranda, Jack and Tali) as opposed to the traditional 4. In addition I do believe there will be NPC romances as well.

 

Female LIs: Al 3 ladies, Cassandra, Vivienne and Sera. Cassandra is a given, poster girl and all while Sera provides the 'elven option' of the group. I'm probably in the minority but I certainly wouldn't mind Vivienne being a romance option (albeit a difficult, challenging one given her demeanor).

 

Male LIs: Dorian, Solas, and Varric. Dorian looks to be the most attractive human male of the current male LIs, and I highly doubt BeardWarden would be included as a romance option (being relatively old and hairy). Solas, like Sera, is the 'elven option' and is definitely rendered to be considerably attractive. As for number 3, I think its Varric. Fans have clamored for him since DA2. Iron Bull doesn't come off as LI material (seems more akin to Black Whirlwind where he's more blood/ax-crazy violentsexual).

 

Non-Companion Romances: Cullen and Leliana, possibly Scribe Girl too. Not everyone romanced Leliana in Origins and she's a very romantic character in general (non-romanced Keep saves will likely render her romanceable while romanced Origins Leli will either be unavailable or written in a way where she and the Warden parted somehow), and Scribe Girl will likely be the Chambers/Traynor of Inqusition.

 

If we are relegated to 4 companion romances, my wager is on DHMG/Solas or DHMG/Varric as far as gents go and Cassandra/Sera as far as the ladies go, plus Cullen/Leliana/Scribbles for non-companions.

 

Edit- Eluvian- thanks for the clarification. Admittedly I know little of Cole (did not read Asunder) so it helps. Anyway if we get 6 companion LIs (NOT counting non-companion NPCs), stronger evidence points to Varric as one of them.



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Cole is a definite no, Celt. Latino. Gaider nixed that months ago.


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It would be awesome if we got a full 6 companion LIs plus the 2 NPC LIs, but I wont hold my breath for it. lol



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It would be awesome if we got a full 6 companion LIs plus the 2 NPC LIs, but I wont hold my breath for it. lol

 

Yeah no:lol: That's doubling what they had in base DA2. I'd believe six, but eight is too much for me to think is possible.



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Yeah no:lol: That's doubling what they had in base DA2. I'd believe six, but eight is too much for me to think is possible.

Well...how many did they have in ME3?



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I very much doubt we will be getting only one male romance option among the companions, so I'm fairly certain we will get at least 6 LIs this time. The real question for me is whether they will all be options for everyone, or follow the 2/2/2 model.

 

In the latter case my (utterly baseless) speculation would be:

 

Cullen (straight), Solas (bi), Dorian (gay)

Sera(straight), Cassandra (bi), Vivienne (lesbian)



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Since they already released images of all the companions, I think we'll probably know the LIs before release, too, honestly. I never thought we'd see all the companions so soon. 

 

They better do it soon, the waiting is killing me slowly. >.>

 

 

 

 


 Cassandra (bi), Vivienne (lesbian)

 

God yes, please.



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I'm predicting explosions all around if they do 2/2/2. It's usually always talked about as far as the LGB demographic being disappointed, because we're typically the ones thinking about it, but I kind of wonder how well the hetero demographic will take it if their favorite is one of the gay/lesbian flagged interests. I think it might come as more of a surprise on their end.  :unsure:



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I'm predicting explosions all around if they do 2/2/2. It's usually always talked about as far as the LGB demographic being disappointed, because we're typically the ones thinking about it, but I kind of wonder how well the hetero demographic will take it if their favorite is one of the gay/lesbian flagged interests. I think it might come as more of a surprise on their end.  :unsure:

Don't worry about that man. Not our fault. We can't control who the writers make available as certain romances.



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It seems like, with Gaider's attachment to Cole, he would have almost certainly been his writer, don't you think? So, could we make an educated guess that Gaider did write a non-companion romance?



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I'm predicting explosions all around if they do 2/2/2. It's usually always talked about as far as the LGB demographic being disappointed, because we're typically the ones thinking about it, but I kind of wonder how well the hetero demographic will take it if their favorite is one of the gay/lesbian flagged interests. I think it might come as more of a surprise on their end. :unsure:

I'm fine with it
Sure if my sweet qunari inquisitor won't end with IB it will be kind of sad. But whatever, really
Most of folk I want to romance are never romancable anyway XD

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It seems like, with Gaider's attachment to Cole, he would have almost certainly been his writer, don't you think? So, could we make an educated guess that Gaider did write a non-companion romance?

Oh, most definitely Gaider wrote Cole. If Gaider wrote a non companion romance, I'd bet on Cullen, since I could see him taking the reins to rewrite Hepler's character when she left.



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I'm fine with it
Sure if my sweet qunari inquisitor won't end with IB it will be kind of sad. But whatever, really
Most of folk I want to romance are never romancable anyway XD

Ugh, Duncan! :wub: :crying:


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It seems like, with Gaider's attachment to Cole, he would have almost certainly been his writer, don't you think? So, could we make an educated guess that Gaider did write a non-companion romance?

He worked with Cullen romance, I'm tellin ya all. 95%

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Yeah8 no:lol: That's doubling what they had in base DA2. I'd believe six, but eight is too much for me to think is possible.

 

I have to agree with this.  I know that they made this statement back before the extended development time, but they definitely hinted that the romance feature would be similar in resource allocation to DA 2.  That could be 4 or 5 or 6, really given that there were technically 5 LI's in DA 2.  I couldn't seem them expanding it out to 8.

 

Well...how many did they have in ME3?

 

Depends on how you view it.  If you count all romances, excluding the flings but including those to be imported from prior games, then it's 11 (4 straight male options, 2 straight female options, 1 lesbian option, 3 bisexual options, and 1 gay male option).

 

If you only count those which could be initiated in ME 3, then it's 5 (1 straight male option, 0 straight female options, 2 bisexual options, 1 lesbian option, and 1 gay male option).

 

I'm predicting explosions all around if they do 2/2/2. It's usually always talked about as far as the LGB demographic being disappointed, because we're typically the ones thinking about it, but I kind of wonder how well the hetero demographic will take it if their favorite is one of the gay/lesbian flagged interests. I think it might come as more of a surprise on their end.  :unsure:

 

I know that Cullen has a strong straight female fanbase.  I think Solas does as well.  I think I've also seen some strong straight male fan support for Cassandra.  Do any of the others have a really strong straight romance fan base?



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Oh, most definitely Gaider wrote Cole. If Gaider wrote a non companion romance, I'd bet on Cullen, since I could see him taking the reins to rewrite Hepler's character when she left.

That's what I think probably happened, also. He said he wrote two romances. Cassandra is one, but Cole wont be a romance, so it looks like he likely re-wrote Cullen. It could be Scribe Girl, but I think Cullen is likely right. 



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Well...how many did they have in ME3?

 

Hmmm, let me think.

 

MALE: Kaidan, Jacob, Thane, Steve, Garrus

FEMALE: Liara, Ashely, Miranda, Jack, Tali, Kelly, Diana, Samantha

 

If you mean start-only, then:

MALE: Kaidan, Steve

FEMALE: Liara, Diana, Samantha

 

Citadel went bananas and added:

MALE: Javik, James (one-night-stands only)

FEMALE: Samara

 

So, eight start-ups, six if you don't count one-night-stands, or sixteen total. But that's Mass Effect and there are different budgets at play. Unless the romance plot budget was expanded, (which is possible, I suppose, but I'd assume any additional word-funds were spent on making differences for each race in already-made romance plots) I don't think there are more than six.



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I know that Cullen has a strong straight female fanbase.  I think Solas does as well.  I think I've also seen some strong straight male fan support for Cassandra.  Do any of the others have a really strong straight romance fan base?

I've seen a decent amount of girls for DHMG and quite a few guys for Sera. 



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I've seen a decent amount of girls for DHMG and quite a few guys for Sera.

 

Don't forget us Iron Bull fans either!

 

Ah, screw it. Every one of the companions is lusted after as a potential LI (except Cole). No matter what Bioware does, someone is going to be disappointed.



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I know that Cullen has a strong straight female fanbase.  I think Solas does as well.  I think I've also seen some strong straight male fan support for Cassandra.  Do any of the others have a really strong straight romance fan base?

 

Just because a character has more hetero fanbase than gay/bi doesn't mean the said character should be straight. >.<

I really do hope that's not the case.

 

 

Cass's gay/bi fanbase is mostly on Tumblr though. And trust me, it's huge. ;P



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Don't forget us Iron Bull fans either!

 

Ah, screw. Every one of the companions is lusted after as a potential LI (except Cole). No matter what Bioware does, someone is going to be disappointed.

Agreed, which is why I favor the all-bisexuals option myself. There will be enough unavailable characters as it is without adding gender restrictions.


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The female LI situation is up in the air, so it's possible that Scribe Girl could be the lesbian character. If it's Sera, like some people have guessed, I think straight guys will be pissed. 

 

With the male LIs, it's a bit more contentious, I think. Cullen cannot be gay, that wont happen. That means it's probably going to be either Solas or DHMG and they both have a pretty strong female following, also. 

 

But I also hope it's the all bi/vague system again.



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Don't forget us Iron Bull fans either!

 

Ah, screw it. Every one of the companions is lusted after as a potential LI (except Cole). No matter what Bioware does, someone is going to be disappointed.

Indeed. Unfortunately, quite a few will be disappointed. I'm hoping that BioWare would be willing to take a risk and make Iron Bull a romance, cause it'd be awesome!



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I think they may go with 3 LI for each gender as companions, and then 2 extras.

 

I say that mainly because Cassandra, Sera, and Viv all seem like they would be - I would have guessed if any of them weren't it would be Cassandra, but she's been confirmed. If I had to go with the previous games' standard of 2, I'm gonna say Cassandra and Viv.

 

Then for dudes, it would make sense for Solas, DHMG, and Grey Warden to be - cos Cole is "like a child" and Varric has his Bianca. And Iron Bull is just...probably not interested in non-qunari women (like Klingons). And If I have to trim it down to 2, I'm hoping for Solas and DHMG.

 

And then I think Cullen and Scribe Lady will be the extra, non-companion ones.



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And Iron Bull is just...probably not interested in non-qunari women (like Klingons).

So what's his excuse for lady qunari inquisitors? :lol: