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[Nocte ad Mortem]

It shows that they are out on the field with you.

 

It means that you do not need to return to Skyhold to speak to them, that you will potentially see them every time you enter a Keep or set up camp in one of the major areas. It even opens up the possibility of special diplomatic or spy missions involving them on the field. 

It seems like a technicality, because I sort of expected you'd be able to go back to Skyhold with basically one loading screen before. I didn't really think it was going to be difficult. The only thing that really changes in my perspective is that you wont be going back to Skyhold as often as I thought. 

[Blackrising]

I'm sure there were; she's pretty and likeable and there were probably more than a few guys who wanted their male Sheps to romance her. But overall everyone was satisfied with her being a lesbian NPC romance.

 

Diana, on the other hand...

 

I've seen some complaints about it back when ME3 got released.

To be fair, it isn't hard to accept one female not being open to you when absolutely every other woman in the game is. It's not like straight male players (as in, those who play a straight male Shepard) had a shortage of love interests.

[daveliam]

I've seen some complaints about it back when ME3 got released.

To be fair, it isn't hard to accept one female not being open to you when absolutely every other woman in the game is. It's not like straight male players (as in, those who play a straight male Shepard) had a shortage of love interests.

 

In fact, if anything, I saw Traynor being used as a "well I was fine with Traynor rejecting me (despite have numerous other options), so why can't you be fine with being rejected (despite having significantly fewer options to begin with.......)?

[Abelas Forever!]

If they do 2/2/2, then it's basically a requirement that some people will only get one option. I mean, even if it's just Cullen and the female LIs are all three female companions, one demographic at least will have to deal with only one companion option. There's no other way to stretch it.

 

The only way is either not having 2/2/2 or having sexuality restrictions, but more like 6+ companion LIs. 

I thought 2/2/2 is 2 bisexuals/2 gay/2 straight so every sexuality will get at least 2 romance options. Right? But I assume that you don't like NPC romances so 2 of those 6 will be NPC romances which is a problem I guess? Because I don't see any other way that some sexuality will get only one option unless you forget NPC romances.

[daveliam]

I thought 2/2/2 is 2 bisexuals/2 gay/2 straight so every sexuality will get at least 2 romance options. Right? But I assume that you don't like NPC romances so 2 of those 6 will be NPC romances which is a problem I guess? Because I don't see any other way that some sexuality will get only one option unless you forget NPC romances.

 

Yes, Mort is referring to one companion romance.  If they do a 2/2/2 split, then everyone will have at least two choices (except for those lucky bisexual Inquisitors!) from the LI's. 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Yes, Mort is referring to one companion romance.  If they do a 2/2/2 split, then everyone will have at least two choices (except for those lucky bisexual Inquisitors!) from the LI's. 

Yes, this is what I meant. 

[Ianamus]

In fact, if anything, I saw Traynor being used as a "well I was fine with Traynor rejecting me (despite have numerous other options), so why can't you be fine with being rejected (despite having significantly fewer options to begin with.......)?

 

As a forenote: I was not happy with the the skewed romances in ME3, particularly for a straight female Shepard, who really got the short end of the stick.

 

That said: If you played a straight male Shepard in Mass Effect 3 (without having played the previous games) you got a choice between Ashley (who could be dead) or Liara. If you played a gay male Shepard you got a choice between Kaidan (who could be dead) or Steve. It's not quite as bad as people make it out to be in that regard. 

 

The only thing that really tipped the scales was Diana, and she was such a poorly cobbled together mess that I barely count her as an LI.

[Abelas Forever!]

But  we don't know for sure that NPC romances have less content or that they don't have any impact on the story. In ME the NPC romances weren't as good as companion romances (that is how I have understood it. No personal experiences there) but if we assume that Cullen is NPC romance it doesn't mean that he isn't important. I could see that Cullen has potential to be important and he has been in earlier games so why not.

[daveliam]

As a forenote: I was not happy with the the skewed romances in ME3, particularly for a traight female Shepard, who really got the short end of the stick.

 

That said: If you played a straight male Shepard in Mass Effect 3 (without having played the previous games) you got a choice between Ashley (who could be dead) or Liara. If you played a gay male Shepard you got a choice between Kaidan (who could be dead) or Steve. It's not quite as bad as people make it out to be in that regard. 

 

The only thing that really tipped the scales was Diana, and she was such a poorly cobbled together mess that I barely count her as an LI.

 

That's if you played ME 3 without importing.  If you imported, there were actually 6 LIs in ME 3 for straight male Shep (Ashley, Liara, Miranda, Jack, Tali, and Kelly) who all unlocked the Paramour achievement.  If you imported, there were only 3 LI's for straight female Sheps (Kaidan, Garrus, and Thane).  If you imported, there were 3 lesbian options (Liara, Kelly, and Traynor).  Regardless of whether you imported or not, there were 2 gay male options (Kaidan and Steve). 

 

However, if you are just looking at ME 3 without importing, then there were 2 options for straight male Shep (Ashley and Liara), 1 for straight female Shep (Kaidan), 2 for lesbian Shep (Liara and Traynor), and 2 for gay male Shep (Kaidan and Steve).

 

So that means that:

 

Straight male Sheps could have between 1 and 6 options (Ashley could be dead; I know people argue that there aren't truly six, because you can only import one, but it doesn't change the fact that there are six female LI's written into ME 3 that a straight male Shep could romance)

 

Straight female Sheps could have between 0 and 3 options (since Kaidan could be dead)

 

Lesbian Sheps could have between 2 and 3 options

 

Gay male Shep could have 1 or 2 options (since Kaidan could be dead)

 

I guess, to bring it back on topic:

 

I'm confident that we won't see this kind of disparate distribution between gender/sexuality because:  1.)  The DA team is much more inclusive in general; and 2.)  We don't have to worry about the import feature.

[Chari]

Right now it is too hard to predict the most likely combination of LIs, so I'll make three possible sets:
1)4 LIs. Cullen, Cassandra, Vivienne and some dude written by Weeks (aka anyone but Cole)
2)6 LIs, #1. Cullen, Cassandra, Vivienne, Scribbles, DHMG, Iron Bull/Grey Warden, one of the dudes written by Weeks
3)6 LIs, #2. Cullen, Cassandra, Solas (by Kirby), Scribbles, DHMG/Grey Warden (by Weeks), Sera

[daveliam]

3)6 LIs, #2. Cullen, Cassandra, Dorian (by Kirby), Scribbles, DHMG/Grey Warden (by Weeks), Sera

 

Replace DHMG (who I suspect is Dorian)/Grey Warden with Solas and that's my vote.

[Xetykins]

I dont mind 2/2/2. For the gay male romances if done well, I might finally have a reason to choose a male toon.
As for who I would like to be what... I dont have anything to go by yet to decide as it was only vivienne whos been announced so far. I've no real opinion on female romancable toons.

I think cullen will be a romancable npc and I think he would be straight. But I'm not a walking Cullen encyclopedia so what do I know.

[Chari]

Replace DHMG (who I suspect is Dorian)/Grey Warden with Solas and that's my vote.

I prefer number two, since IMHO writers of at least four LIs we can tell, and unless Kirby writes Solas, Sera won't be a LI. And I doubt that, I bet Vivienne will be a LI, plus Cassandra and a NPC aka Scribbles, so... But I may be wrong
I meant Solas btw

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I think Solas might be written by Patrick Weekes, since he did The Masked Empire and Solas might tie into the Eluvian/elf plot.

[Ianamus]

That's if you played ME 3 without importing.  If you imported, there were actually 6 LIs in ME 3 for straight male Shep (Ashley, Liara, Miranda, Jack, Tali, and Kelly) who all unlocked the Paramour achievement.  If you imported, there were only 3 LI's for straight female Sheps (Kaidan, Garrus, and Thane).  If you imported, there were 3 lesbian options (Liara, Kelly, and Traynor).  Regardless of whether you imported or not, there were 2 gay male options (Kaidan and Steve). 

 

I looked at Mass Effect 3 solely as an individual game. I would not judge Inquisitions LI dynamics based on DA2, so I will not judge ME3's LI dynamics based on the previous games, save import or no save import. 

 

My guess at the moment for Inquisition is:

 

Cullen (female only), Male Mage (male only), Solas (male or female).

 

Scribe girl (male only), Sera (female only), Cassandra (male or female). 

 

I feel more certain about the characters I listed than the sexualities I assigned them. For the female ones in particular, I really don't have a clue at the moment. Also note that this is what I expect, not necessarily what I would prefer, though I definitely want a 2/2/2 setup. 

[Chari]

I think Solas might be written by Patrick Weekes, since he did The Masked Empire and Solas might tie into the Eluvian/elf plot.

True. Him, I recall him tweeting that he needed some sad music about break ups or betrayal during writing the companion. And writing a song for a band of bandits. Reminds me of IB... Or GW due to his sad, sad concept art
Dang, I'm a stalker

[Ap0crypha]

@Chari ...your sets of 6 have 7 LIs in them. 0.o

 

That said, I do like Set 2 very much.

[Abelas Forever!]

True. Him, I recall him tweeting that he needed some sad music about break ups or betrayal during writing the companion. And writing a song for a band of bandits. Reminds me of IB... Or GW due to his sad, sad concept art

Solas might be written by Patrick Weekes and he has listened sad music while writing companions. If Solas is a LI for female inquisitor could it be a tragic romance? Please no!

[daveliam]

I prefer number two, since IMHO writers of at least four LIs we can tell, and unless Kirby writes Solas, Sera won't be a LI. And I doubt that, I bet Vivienne will be a LI, plus Cassandra and a NPC aka Scribbles, so... But I may be wrong
I meant Solas btw

 

You don't think that Cassandra and Vivienne might be too similar?  They are both mature, responsible human women in positions of power.  Neither seem to be "light" in nature.  I'm sure that they are different from each other and that their romance arcs could go in very different directions, but they just seem so much more similar to each other than Sera is to either, which is why I would expect Sera over Vivienne at this point.  Plus, without Sera, we are looking at three romances and they are all human women. 

[Ryzaki]

In fact, if anything, I saw Traynor being used as a "well I was fine with Traynor rejecting me (despite have numerous other options), so why can't you be fine with being rejected (despite having significantly fewer options to begin with.......)?

 

thank you for putting into words what always bothered me about that argument.

[Chari]

You don't think that Cassandra and Vivienne might be too similar? They are both mature, responsible human women in positions of power. Neither seem to be "light" in nature. I'm sure that they are different from each other and that their romance arcs could go in very different directions, but they just seem so much more similar to each other than Sera is to either, which is why I would expect Sera over Vivienne at this point. Plus, without Sera, we are looking at three romances and they are all human women.

And Sera seems too similar to Zevran and Isabella. Anyway, I just believe that one of LIs is written by Mary Kirby who writes Vivienne, and possibly Solas. Plus in one of the first interviews it was said that Vivienne is one of the characters which fans will publish a lot on YouTube. Usually LIs are

@Chari ...your sets of 6 have 7 LIs in them. 0.o

That said, I do like Set 2 very much.

I meant that one if these three dudes may be a character of Weeks

[daveliam]

And Sera seems too similar to Zevran and Isabella. Anyway, I just believe that one of LIs is written by Mary Kirby who writes Vivienne, and possibly Solas. Plus in one of the first interviews it was said that Vivienne is one of the characters which fans will publish a lot on YouTube. Usually LIs are

 

Right, but Zevran and Isabela aren't LIs in DA: I.  It would make sense to have a variety among the LIs within each game with regard to personality types.  Zev and Isabela were both popular LIs, so it would stand to reason that they would want to offer a similar type in DA: I for those who enjoyed them.  If Mary Kirby wrote an LI, out of the two you listed, I'd put my money on Solas.  He's unique enough from the  other male characters to offer a different perspective and, well, he's an elf and that increases "diversity" right off the bat.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Do we have any clue who could have written Scribe Girl? She's also pretty likely to be a LI. 

[Chari]

Right, but Zevran and Isabela aren't LIs in DA: I. It would make sense to have a variety among the LIs within each game with regard to personality types. Zev and Isabela were both popular LIs, so it would stand to reason that they would want to offer a similar type in DA: I for those who enjoyed them. If Mary Kirby wrote an LI, out of the two you listed, I'd put my money on Solas. He's unique enough from the other male characters to offer a different perspective and, well, he's an elf and that increases "diversity" right off the bat.

Maybe. But I think Vivienne is more likely

[WildOrchid]

What if Viv is the gay lady one (i would totally be fine with that)? I personally don't want scribe girl or whatever her name is as the gay only romance. :/