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Most people think Vivienne won't be a LI so if Cass ends up straight, i'll be doomed tbh. Sera may be interesting but i'm not pinning for her anyway... and scribbles? 0 interest in her.
What's wrong with scribbles? I mean, we know nothing about her...and just because the ME team didn't put a lot of effort into the lesbian NPC romances doesn't mean the DA writers will do the same.
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Cole is not a romance option for anyone. He has the mind of a child.
Varric I don't know for sure. He has issues over Bianca.
That gives us 4 males. That being the case it is 50%.
One or two can be a booby prize. Someone who dies, turns on you or dumps you. I'm thinking Cullen may turn into a booby prize.
The argument that you can just make an opposite gender (or same gender, for that matter) character to romance your LI choice misses the point of the disappointment people are feeling entirely. I don't want access to a heterosexual romance. I wont enjoy a heterosexual romance. I want access to a same sex romance. If that isn't possible, the content I was hoping for does not exist. It's not locked behind some other flag I have to tick. It simply doesn't exist. The romance option I was hoping for is inaccessible, absolutely. Telling me to change my character gender misunderstands the situation to a way more substantial degree than the people that were just saying "then just don't get attached to certain characters". By a lot. And it gets extremely difficult to not get frustrated with the insensitivity of the suggestion when lodged at a group we all know has very few options to ever experience a romance in any media that pairs up with their actual sexuality.
You are wasting your time. 
How was bioware locking you out when there was characters for gay men too in all their games. And as you said you played a lot of characters as a gay man in bioware games. Im sure it will be the same in inquisition too? I find it hard to believe they would change that now.
To say that there were homosexual options in all Bioware games is simply untrue. Just look at ME 1 -- absolutely no homosexual options whatsoever. ME 2 only had one lesbian option (which I'm not convinced wasn't put in strictly for straight male titillation) and gay men were completely left out in the cold.
While I do appreciate the increased representation of my sexuality, it's a fact that the lion's share of LIs across the games has gone to the straight male lead, which is what a lot of players have an issue with.
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Let's stay on-topic and civil. We don't need a bunch of double posts and two word snippets traded back and forth.
I think it's actually more disturbing when a character I'm interested in is unavailable to me just because I made my character look like me than if the character is not an LI at all. I have tried several times and do not enjoy playing a male character. It's not fun for me, and the gameplay differences are so tiny that I can't justify being miserable for 40 hours for a romance. If they're not a romance option in the first place I can deal with it, but to think that someone else deserves that character more because they can stomach playing as a male character just feels weird.
It's not "deserve," and I don't think thinking about it that way is helpful.
Me, on the other hand, I'd rather be rejected because I'm the "wrong" gender than something else like race or class (major plot decisions are okay, though). Because that's actually a valid reason to reject me. I can't make myself be attracted to women. Just can't! So hearing "sorry, I'm not into chicks" doesn't ping any outrage for me. "Sorry, I'm not into dwarves" absolutely would, because that's not some hard-wired preference impossible to overcome unless you're a racist.
That said, of course I'd rather everyone was available, because I like the variety. Sometimes I don't know who would be best with one of my characters until I'm actually playing them, and it would make me sad if, say, the dude inquisitor I made would be totally adorable with whoever winds up being the lesbian, or that my lady inquisitors will never make out with whoever winds up being the gay dude. But it's a lot easier for me to swallow (hurr) than "sorry, I'm not into rogues."
Bioware. Do. Not. Care.
I don't care if they don't care. I'll nag until I get what I want. If not from them, then from someone else.
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I don't care if they don't care. I'll nag until I get what I want. If not from them, then from someone else.
I don't want only some options, I want all of the options.
Bioware hasn't offered options to gay men in "all" their games. They didn't even get around to adding them to the Mass Effect series until the last game and, even then, it's not like it was an even spread.
You had Cortez and Kaidan in ME3. Dragon Age Zev. Alistair was a guilt set-up. DA2 you has Anders and Fenris.
You make it sound like the game resolve only around romancing a character. They do not, it's a tiny part of the game and 100% optional.
Bioware. Do. Not. Care.
You're no more a Bioware spokesperson than any of the rest of us who have no "MOD" in our title.
Bioware hasn't offered options to gay men in "all" their games. They didn't even get around to adding them to the Mass Effect series until the last game and, even then, it's not like it was an even spread.
You misunderstand me.
I care about the romance feature very much. What I don't care about is her point.
BioWare isn't going to start fulfilling all and every wish people have regarding romances, they are not making dating sims. Expecting them to do so is just making sure you are going to be angry once you play the game and deceiving yourself.
I've played many different characters across both Dragon Age titles, they just all happen to be gay men.
Locking me out of content doesn't encourage me to replay the game at all, because I have no interest whatsoever in playing as anything other than a gay man. All I see is Bioware limiting the kinds of stories that a gay character can have.
You had Cortez and Kaidan in ME3. Dragon Age Zev. Alistair was a guilt set-up. DA2 you has Anders and Fenris.
I don't understand this post. I didn't say there had never been any m/m LIs?
Me, on the other hand, I'd rather be rejected because I'm the "wrong" gender than something else like race or class (major plot decisions are okay, though). Because that's actually a valid reason to reject me. I can't make myself be attracted to women. Just can't! So hearing "sorry, I'm not into chicks" doesn't ping any outrage for me. "Sorry, I'm not into dwarves" absolutely would, because that's not some hard-wired preference impossible to overcome unless you're a racist.
I hope you don't apply this reasoning to real life. I'm not attracted to short men, even if that makes me racist towards dwarves, and I'm not obliged to "overcome" my lack of attraction just because a short man wants to have sex with me.
What about da2. Theyre what the players wish them to be.
Sebastian was straight, but otherwise I thought it was a really good system.
What's wrong with scribbles? I mean, we know nothing about her...and just because the ME team didn't put a lot of effort into the lesbian NPC romances doesn't mean the DA writers will do the same.
I'm just not interested in her and reminds me of the Chambers/Traynor romance if she ends up lesbian romance or bi, which the latter may mean Cass won't be romanceable by ladies and i seriously do not want that.
Also i'm not comparing DA with ME writers, i know they're different team and all, it's just that she doesn't ping my interest.
People does it honestly matter?
Let's say that they go for the gay, bi, and straight model we bandy about.
You are at most getting denied 1/3 options if you play a gay character.
Yet it seems that it is being taken as Bioware going "BWAHAHA NO GAY ROMANCES FOR YOU BWAHAHA!"
I don't understand this bolded part
It's extremely straight-forward.
If I can't romance Cullen as a gay man, then the "story" of me saving the world while having a romance with Cullen does not exist. Therefore, I am limited.
How was bioware locking you out when there was characters for gay men too in all their games. And as you said you played a lot of characters as a gay man in bioware games. Im sure it will be the same in inquisition too? I find it hard to believe they would change that now.
BioWare isn't going to start fulfilling all and every wish people have regarding romances, they are not making dating sims. Expecting them to do so is just making sure you are going to be angry once you play the game and deceiving yourself.
I don't recall ever asking for a dating sim. I don't like dating sims, and wouldn't play one.
When my options for romance are already limited to only a handful of people in the entire setting, it's not the least bit unreasonable to ask that they make those characters available to everyone. The only special effort required on their part is to avoid gender-specific pronouns when writing the dialogue.
I don't understand this post. I didn't say there had never been any m/m LIs?
Your comment: "Bioware hasn't offered options to gay men in "all" their games. They didn't even get around to adding them to the Mass Effect series until the last game and, even then, it's not like it was an even spread.
ME3 has 2 for gay men.
From another poster we learned the following about ME3
"In any give game:
i have nothing against scribbles, but i don't want the lesbian LI (if there even is one) to be an npc again... i really want a lesbian companion.
Yes, this is another reason why i don't want scribbles as the gay one. A lesbian companion is what i need indeed.
But then again.... there's Cass. Sigh. I just know i'll be disappointed eventually.
If Cass ends up being bi and Scribbles gay, then i wouldn't have any prob with that.
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