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[SurelyForth]

I never got the problem people who romanced Alistair had with the DR.

 

If the situation was reversed; if the only way I could save my girlfriend's life was by letting her have a one night stand with another man, it wouldn't be a decision. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

 

I've mentioned it before, but Alistair can break up with the Warden if he's made king, due to social implications and the fact that she's not fertile. Even if the relationship is still on, there's that whole "my boyfriend that I can't have children with is having a child with a woman he despises" aspect. It's just...uncomfortable.

 

Heck, it's uncomfortable no matter what. Alistair doesn't like Morrigan, and if you tell him what the ritual entails, you have to use a persuade option to get him to accept, even if he's in love with the Warden. If he had his druthers, he'd sacrifice his own life rather than take what he sees as a gigantic, unpleasant risk. Using a [persuade] to make him agree gives the whole thing an unpleasantly coerced vibe.

 

Then there's Morrigan's attitude towards it (which feels out of character if she's at max affection with the Warden) and the horrible sex scene. Like I don't care about the actual intercourse in the slightest, and I would choose "**** anyone you want, if it saves us!" all day every day, but there's a lot of things surrounding the DR that makes it problematic in every Alistair-as-OGB-daddy, and unpleasant for those who romance Alistair in particular. 

[ReallyRue]

I never got the problem people who romanced Alistair had with the DR.

 

If the situation was reversed; if the only way I could save my girlfriend's life was by letting her have a one night stand with another man, it wouldn't be a decision. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I always found it odd that there was a jealousy aspect for some players, despite the fact you have to coerce Alistair into it in the first place. And then of course the hatred for Morrigan, without whom one of you would be dead.

 

I always feel uncomfortable coercing Alistair (or Loghain) into it, since nobody involved wants to do it. I still do so, but even so... uncomfortable.

[The Elder King]

Technically, I don't think many are asked for their opinion.  We are just mostly outspoken and insist that our voice be heard even if it's just in our head.  Sometimes the voices in my head are yelling and I just let them do the typing.  

 
I'm pretty sure eluvianix was joking . 

I never got the problem people who romanced Alistair had with the DR.
 
If the situation was reversed; if the only way I could save my girlfriend's life was by letting her have a one night stand with another man, it wouldn't be a decision. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Agreed.

[Frikipolleces]

Shepard jokes about this just being an attempt to get her into bed and then says "you want it". Nope, it's pretty bad. 

 

Sorry for hold on to this topic, but I don't think it's a sexual reference at all.

 

"It" is a romance, not a night of sex. If it wasn't, the whole conversation wouldn't make sense. They are talking about Miranda's feelings, not her vagina.

 

But even if it was about sex, why would it be so bad? If Shepard wants sex, and so does Miranda, and they both know it, I don't see any reason for him not to state so.

 

This bothers me because I get the feeling if it was the other way around, nobody would care. Like, lets say Isabella tells Hawke: "Come on, you know you want it!". Would that be SO bad?

[Sjofn]

I never got the problem people who romanced Alistair had with the DR.

 

If the situation was reversed; if the only way I could save my girlfriend's life was by letting her have a one night stand with another man, it wouldn't be a decision. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

 

The first time I decided to do the DR was with a warden that romanced Alistair, and that was absolutely my warden's reasoning. In fact I think while I was convincing him, I had a line along the lines of "if I could do it, I would!" Mostly I just felt bad making him sleep with someone he didn't like very much. I'm ... not sure why they decided to make me watch the Morrigan-sashays-towards-the-bed cutscene, though, that was just ... wat.

[Former_Fiend]

I've mentioned it before, but Alistair can break up with the Warden if he's made king, due to social implications and the fact that she's not fertile. Even if the relationship is still on, there's that whole "my boyfriend that I can't have children with is having a child with a woman he despises" aspect. It's just...uncomfortable.

 

Heck, it's uncomfortable no matter what. Alistair doesn't like Morrigan, and if you tell him what the ritual entails, you have to use a persuade option to get him to accept, even if he's in love with the Warden. If he had his druthers, he'd sacrifice his own life rather than take what he sees as a gigantic, unpleasant risk. Using a [persuade] to make him agree gives the whole thing an unpleasantly coerced vibe.

 

Then there's Morrigan's attitude towards it (which feels out of character if she's at max affection with the Warden) and the horrible sex scene. Like I don't care about the actual intercourse in the slightest, and I would choose "**** anyone you want, if it saves us!" all day every day, but there's a lot of things surrounding the DR that makes it problematic in every Alistair-as-OGB-daddy, and unpleasant for those who romance Alistair in particular. 

 

I can see why it's uncomfortable. I'm just saying that if it meant saving the life of the woman I loved, some discomfort is a small price to pay.

[dragondreamer]

I always found it odd that there was a jealousy aspect for some players, despite the fact you have to coerce Alistair into it in the first place. And then of course the hatred for Morrigan, without whom one of you would be dead.

 

I always feel uncomfortable coercing Alistair (or Loghain) into it, since nobody involved wants to do it. I still do so, but even so... uncomfortable.

 

Yeah, the hatred for Morrigan always gets me.  Especially since she hates Alistair and ultimately she's going to have to deal with the harder consequences on her own.  It's not her fault one of the Wardens is going to die, she's just offering a way out.  Not a pleasant one, but it's an option.

 

My Warden was not only gay but the Dark Ritual went against his personal moral code against blood magic/forbidden magic.  It wasn't something he was at all comfortable with and it will always haunt him.  But he did it because he was in love with Alistair and he didn't want to risk that Alistair would be the one to die.  This isn't something he blames Morrigan for, he takes full responsibility for what he did.  It was his own decision.

[SurelyForth]

I can see why it's uncomfortable. I'm just saying that if it meant saving the life of the woman I loved, some discomfort is a small price to pay.

 

Well, he's willing to do just that- only he would rather kill the Archdemon and die than sleep with Morrigan for a blood magic ritual to create a bastard child with the soul of an Old God/Archdemon. It's just layers and layers of "is this actually the better choice?" and it's only the idea that he might not get the chance to kill Archie that convinces him to go through with it.

[stuffystuffs]

City Elf > Dalish Elf.

 

we got halla

[AgentMrOrange]

I already gave up on Vivienne. I think the romances will be

 

 

 

Gay

Cullen

Scribbles

 

Bi

DHMG

Sera

 

Straight

Cass

solas

[Shark17676]

City elves were always more interesting to me than the more traditional Dalish elves.

[Giggles_Manically]

We should have like a betting pool where we all put down who we think will be romances.

 

Might be funny to see how far off dead on we are.

[Ryzaki]

Did dudeshep said this to Miranda? EW.

 

 

 

 

OH. Idk which one i like more. 

 

He did you should've saw the DO NOT WANT look on my face. XD

[Hanako Ikezawa]

We should have like a betting pool where we all put down who we think will be romances.

 

Might be funny to see how far off dead on we are.

I think Cassandra and Cullen will be romances. Now hand over your money. 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Why? Nothing about him strikes me as particularly gayer than any other character.

Frankly Solas seems more likely to me.

Why does Solas seem gay? 

[Gwydden]

I always found it odd that there was a jealousy aspect for some players, despite the fact you have to coerce Alistair into it in the first place. And then of course the hatred for Morrigan, without whom one of you would be dead.

 

I always feel uncomfortable coercing Alistair (or Loghain) into it, since nobody involved wants to do it. I still do so, but even so... uncomfortable.

Maybe the DA team should have gone with the original idea and made a female Warden able to get Morrigan pregnant through some weird magic. Now that would have been interesting 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Maybe the DA team should have gone with the original idea and made a female Warden able to get Morrigan pregnant through some weird magic. Now that would have been interesting 

I'm pretty sure Gaider made a tumblr post about how they consider it and then decided it got too convoluted. lol   

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Maybe the DA team should have gone with the original idea and made a female Warden able to get Morrigan pregnant through some weird magic. Now that would have been interesting 

Lesbomancy I think the Witcher fans call it.

[In Exile]

But even if it was about sex, why would it be so bad? If Shepard wants sex, and so does Miranda, and they both know it, I don't see any reason for him not to state so.

 

This bothers me because I get the feeling if it was the other way around, nobody would care. Like, lets say Isabella tells Hawke: "Come on, you know you want it!". Would that be SO bad?

 

If it was about sex, then the problem is with Shepard going "despite your protest to the contrary, you secretly want to have sex with me". The whole point is that to establish "they both know it", a very different conversation has to take place first. 

If it was the other way around, then it wouldn't have all of the associated unfortunate implications (like that blurred lines song). 

[Ryzaki]

I never got the problem people who romanced Alistair had with the DR.

 

If the situation was reversed; if the only way I could save my girlfriend's life was by letting her have a one night stand with another man, it wouldn't be a decision. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

 

It's giving him a child  with a woman who has shown herself to have the emotional maturity of a five year old and is mostly stupid evil in DAO. That's my issue with it. (Remember you don't have to be friends with Morrigan to get the ritual offered). Then ontop of that femprotag can't have kids (honestly the DR would bother me significantly less if my PC wasn't infertile).

 

She's not just having a one night stand. She's having a child, having that child's soul replaced by something that's probably not in the least benevolent and then giving it to one of the most emotionally immature morally bankrupt persons in the party. There's so many do not want in that. (Which is why honestly my canon moving forward in the keep will be the US either that or Redeemer).

 

Yeah, the hatred for Morrigan always gets me.  Especially since she hates Alistair and ultimately she's going to have to deal with the harder consequences on her own.  It's not her fault one of the Wardens is going to die, she's just offering a way out.  Not a pleasant one, but it's an option.

 

My Warden was not only gay but the Dark Ritual went against his personal moral code against blood magic/forbidden magic.  It wasn't something he was at all comfortable with and it will always haunt him.  But he did it because he was in love with Alistair and he didn't want to risk that Alistair would be the one to die.  This isn't something he blames Morrigan for, he takes full responsibility for what he did.  It was his own decision.

If she actually cared about the warden surviving all the time she'd told them in the beginning or during the landsmeet. Morrigan was out for number one. Saving the warden was just a side effect (a pleasant one if they're friends).

 

Remember she even offers the ritual at -100 and leaves no matter how high your affection is. The ritual was the reason she was there.

[pallascedar]

Why does Solas seem gay? 

 

It's nothing really to do with him seeming gay. I think there's almost no evidence to support him being the gay LI than DHMG.

 

But this is BSN, and I am going to wildly speculate: Gaider has posted several times about Solas in ways that make me think that Gaider wrote Solas. Amd O would expect that Gaider would be more likely than another writer to write an exclusively gay LI. He also made a comment about us not knowing a character that is most like him in DA. For some reason, I thought of Solas in that case too (just because he seemed snarky in concept art).

 

I just think the reason everything suspects DHMG will be gay is because he seems to have a larger following among the gay members of this board. Not to mention is dramatic hands and stylishness. His look just strikes me more as a dandy though, and dandies are hardly necessarily gay.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Morrigan does wait for you at the Eluvian in Witch Hunt, but you can only go with her if you're a dude that romanced her, so I guess it only helps much if she was your LI. 

[WildOrchid]

He did you should've saw the DO NOT WANT look on my face. XD

 

I can imagine. >.<

 

 

 

 

I already gave up on Vivienne. I think the romances will be

 

 

 

Gay

Cullen

Scribbles

 

Bi

DHMG

Sera

 

Straight

Cass

solas

 

 

*stabs post* noPE

[Nocte ad Mortem]

It's nothing really to do with him seeming gay. I think there's almost no evidence to support him being the gay LI than DHMG.

 

But this is BSN, and I am going to wildly speculate: Gaider has posted several times about Solas in ways that make me think that Gaider wrote Solas. Amd O would expect that Gaider would be more likely than another writer to write an exclusively gay LI. He also made a comment about us not knowing a character that is most like him in DA. For some reason, I thought of Solas in that case too (just because he seemed snarky in concept art).

 

I just think the reason everything suspects DHMG will be gay is because he seems to have a larger following among the gay members of this board. Not to mention is dramatic hands and stylishness. His look just strikes me more as a dandy though, and dandies are hardly necessarily gay.

I don't really think Gaider wrote Solas. He wrote Cassandra and he will have definitely written Cole. I doubt he wrote more than two companions. I'd say Solas is probably Patrick Weekes or someone else. 

 

I think most people just think he's gay because it seems more likely they'd pick the NPCs or the elves to be bisexual because they're "different".

[pallascedar]

I don't really think Gaider wrote Solas. He wrote Cassandra and he will have definitely written Cole. I doubt he wrote more than two companions. I'd say Solas is probably Patrick Weekes or someone else. 

 

I think most people just think he's gay because it seems more likely they'd pick the NPCs or the elves to be bisexual because they're "different".

 

But Cole won't be an LI. And Gaider wrote Alistair, Zevran, Morrigan and Shale for DA:O. Him writing 3 companions would hardly be astonishing. Also, when asked about which food Iron Bull was, Weekes said he wouldn't reveal it for his character and he wouldn't want to reveal somebody else's without his permission. Maybe Kirby forgot to ask Weekes before she tweeted about Solas, but I just have a feeling it isn't him based on that.

 

I wouldn't bet any money on this of course, its just the way I see the "evidence" points to Solas being more likely as the gay LI than mustache. Maybe I'm just misinterpreting hope as surety.