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[mordy_was_here]

Dorian (only male)

 

[stuffystuffs]

Only if Viv is gay, then i can be completely happy. I mean, how many times do we get the chance to have a 'main' gay LI?

 

Viv is gay.

 

Naked Andraste staff usage confirms this.

[BubbleDncr]

I don't think Vivienne is a romance option...

 

I'm guessing: 

 

Cullen (only female), Dorian (only male), Solas (both) 

Scribe girl (only female),Cassandra (only male), Sera (both)

 

That means 6/12 are romanceable. While 4 are companions and 2 are advisors. 

 

I don't think that's right, it would be unfair to female inquisitors - cos I think most people consider companions romances preferable to NPC romances, cos you get to bring them with you everywhere. And that would make it so male Inquistors get to romance 4 companions while females only get 2.

 

So Scribe Lady is more likely to be male only, and Cassandra bi, and Sera female only. - that would also make it so Solas and Cassandra could be available to everyone, and I have a feeling they'll be the "plot important" ones.

 

Edit - changed what I thought for female companions, cos my first thing didn't make sense.

[Divine Justinia V]

 

don't listen to the naysayers, Gorgo, it won't happen

[daveliam]

I'm suspecting that, regardless of number of LI, they are going to go with the all bisexual approach.  However,

 

I don't think Vivienne is a romance option...

 

I'm guessing: 

 

Cullen (only female), Dorian (only male), Solas (both) 

Scribe girl (only female),Cassandra (only male), Sera (both)

 

That means 6/12 are romanceable. While 4 are companions and 2 are advisors. 

 

if they go with a variety of sexualities, this is exactly what I suspect as well.  It just makes sense to me for some reason.  The only thing that makes me question it is the fact that this would have all 4 LI's for male characters (Cassandra, Sera, Dorian, and Solas) as companions, whereas only two (Sera and Solas) would be companions and the other two (Cullen and Scribe Girl) would be NPCs for female characters.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Ladies, I really want to share Dorian with you. I really, really do. 

 

But if we can't, it's alright, because I have a very attractive friend I want to introduce you to instead. I know you'll like him. Just look into his eyes...

[Chari]

How do we know her's isn't Scribe Girl, if she wrote a romance? She doesn't have a writer yet.

A NPC and not a companion, so unlikely

[Ianamus]

Does anybody know the location of the blog post where David Gaider talks about his opinion of LI sexuality? I remember reading it awhile back but I can't for the life of me find it. 

[Chari]

We don't even know if Kirby wrote Solas. We only know she wrote Vivienne and Varric. Hell, Lukas could have written Solas for all we know.

And? He writes Sera. Kirby very likely writes a LI. if you recall their words about Vivienne being a Youtube star, it is very likely she will be a LI

[daveliam]

A NPC and not a companion, so unlikely

 

Why is that "so unlikely"?  Someone had to write her.....

 

Does anybody know the location of the blog post where David Gaider talks about his opinion of LI sexuality? I remember reading it awhile back but I can't for the life of me find it. 

 

Actually, no.  I thought it was on his tumblr, but I can't seem to find it now.  Hmm.....

[daveliam]

if you recall their words about Vivienne being a Youtube star, it is very likely she will be a LI

 

I just don't get this line of reasoning at all.  There are a ton of reasons why a character could be popular on youtube.  The first thing that I think of would be if they had really funny, snarky dialogue, to be honest, not because they are an LI.  I just don't see how "Vivienne might be popular on youtube" becomes, "She's likely to be an LI."

[Ianamus]

 

 

Actually, no.  I thought it was on his tumblr, but I can't seem to find it now.  Hmm.....

 

 

I did find a very amusing quote with regards to the current situation on his Tumblr. 

 

"What will be perhaps frustrating (and no doubt inevitable) if we ever do provide a larger number of romances and thus have no need to make them all bisexual/playersexual, is that the complainers will undoubtedly cry victory (“we made them change it!”) and at least some of those who liked how it worked will then complain that we either caved or that they have had their right to romance anyone they wish removed. Or both, I suppose.

But such is life."

[daveliam]

Again, I submit that they are damned if they do and damned if they don't with regards to romances.  There is nothing they can do to please us all. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I just don't get this line of reasoning at all.  There are a ton of reasons why a character could be popular on youtube.  The first thing that I think of would be if they had really funny, snarky dialogue, to be honest, not because they are an LI.  I just don't see how "Vivienne might be popular on youtube" becomes, "She's likely to be an LI."

Just look at Varric. Pretty much the universal favorite DA2 companion, yet he isn't a romance in Inquisition. 

[chrislynn]

I found it on his tumbler about four months back and it is a response to a confession about being unhappy that Avelaine was not romance-able even though you could flirt with her. I'd link it but it doesn't go on a separate page. Here is David's quote copy pasted:

 

"Totally okay with this, actually.

The issue with the “all-bisexual” romances, as I see it (or the issue for which I can see at least some merit, anyhow), is one of perception—that the followers in Dragon Age are simply vehicles for romances as opposed to characters in their own right with their own motivations. A player simply selects a follower— “I want you!”— and that follower immediately surrenders all agency to the player’s will.

It’s not really true, but I think it’s a perception fueled by an overreaction to the fact that there are fans who do like the romances a great deal (and talk about it extensively, whereas there are fans who vehemently oppose the romances being the most important element in the game… not that they are or ever have been, but clearly if they do not actively oppose the idea we BioWare developers will succumb to the notion that it’s so). I imagine there are also fans who don’t mind the idea of the romances working that way—just pick whoever you want and they will reciprocate. Why? Because the player wants it, and isn’t this game about fantasy fulfillment?

It’s not, though there’s nothing wrong with somebody wanting that—and it’s completely excusable that there are those who think that’s what the game is or should be. We’ve always been more interested in establishing a believable world and believable characters, and the romances—to us—are an extension of that rather than the purpose for it. Having equal opportunities for romance plots is a point of fairness and not indicative of a shift in the purpose of those plots, and I’d be fine with having more restrictions rather than less—of having some romances simply not working out, or less romances in total (even if they’re equally distributed in number).

Note that this isn’t really indicative of our plans for DAI, but you can take it as indicative of my (and the Design department’s) view on the place that romance plots have in the overall game. Which is to say “substantially tertiary, if great fun”. YMMV, naturally, and you are (as always) free to hope for otherwise."

[Ianamus]

 

-snip-

 

Thank you! Though it does little to help me in understanding exactly what is happening with the LI's in Inquisition. It actually confuses it slightly more, if anything. 

 

I suppose the only thing to do is wait until we get official confirmation, perish the thought.

 

 

Again, I submit that they are damned if they do and damned if they don't with regards to romances.  There is nothing they can do to please us all. 

 

 

They can come close, and I hold out hope that they will. Though I can't escape the thought that whatever their grand plans for romances in Inquisition are they will do an Icarus and fly too close to the sun. It's my only real concern for the game as a whole, actually. The higher you aim the further you can fall. 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I'm looking for the tumblr post about 2/2/2, but so far I've only found this post confirming the system as unconfirmed. lol

 

http://dgaider.tumbl...-i-might-be-the

[WildOrchid]

^They can simply just change the romance ways. Like make them all bi but only if the romance way is based on your inquisitor's actions.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I think this is the only one actually about something like 2/2/2. It doesn't even say 2/2/2, though. I, uhhh, I'm starting to get a little unsure if this was ever even specifically a dev idea or if we just made it up.

 

http://dgaider.tumbl...fession-i-never

 

It basically just says if there were enough characters for everyone to have "options" they would consider restrictions. Which.. doesn't even mean an even split was ever "the thing".

[Ap0crypha]

*looks at all the posts listing Cullen, Solas, and Dorian as LIs*

 

Am I the only one who doesn't want Solas as a LI? It's not the baldness or the awful clothes, it's just...we know NOTHING about him. Dorian and Iron Bull we have the survey to go off of, but for all I know Solas is a misogynistic, racist, arrogant jerk (not saying he is, just that he COULD be). Meanwhile, I like both IB and Dorian in terms of personality and appearance >.>

 

Dangit Bioware, please just tell us everything non-spoiler related about the companions already so we don't die by waiting.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

*looks at all the posts listing Cullen, Solas, and Dorian as LIs*

 

Am I the only one who doesn't want Solas as a LI? It's not the baldness or the awful clothes, it's just...we know NOTHING about him. Dorian and Iron Bull we have the survey to go off of, but for all I know Solas is a misogynistic, racist, arrogant jerk (not saying he is, just that he COULD be). Meanwhile, I like both IB and Dorian in terms of personality and appearance >.>

 

Dangit Bioware, please just tell us everything non-spoiler related about the companions already so we don't die by waiting.

Solas will probably be the centerpiece in a Follower Friday. 

[daveliam]

I think this is the only one actually about something like 2/2/2. It doesn't even say 2/2/2, though. I, uhhh, I'm starting to get a little unsure if this was ever even specifically a dev idea or if we just made it up.

 

http://dgaider.tumbl...fession-i-never

 

It basically just says if there were enough characters for everyone to have "options" they would consider restrictions. Which.. doesn't even mean an even split was ever "the thing".

 

I'm very confident that the 2/2/2 split is a BSN creation.  I thought that the basis of it was a statement that Gaider made (or, probably more accurately, that someone claimed Gaider made) that he favors having a variety of sexualities, but would always opt for all players to have choices regarding LI's if he couldn't have both.  Then, given that the lowest possible denominator in order to accomplish both things is 2 of each, the 2/2/2 split was born.  I'm pretty sure that was all us, though.  I've never even seen a dev acknowledge it, let alone discuss it as an option.

[AresKeith]

I'm very confident that the 2/2/2 split is a BSN creation.  I thought that the basis of it was a statement that Gaider made (or, probably more accurately, that someone claimed Gaider made) that he favors having a variety of sexualities, but would always opt for all players to have choices regarding LI's if he couldn't have both.  Then, given that the lowest possible denominator in order to accomplish both things is 2 of each, the 2/2/2 split was born.  I'm pretty sure that was all us, though.  I've never even seen a dev acknowledge it, let alone discuss it as an option.

 

Yea, the 2/2/2 itself came from BSN based on how David said he'd prefer variety of set sexualities 

[Ianamus]

I'm very confident that the 2/2/2 split is a BSN creation.  I thought that the basis of it was a statement that Gaider made (or, probably more accurately, that someone claimed Gaider made) that he favors having a variety of sexualities, but would always opt for all players to have choices regarding LI's if he couldn't have both.  Then, given that the lowest possible denominator in order to accomplish both things is 2 of each, the 2/2/2 split was born.  I'm pretty sure that was all us, though.  I've never even seen a dev acknowledge it, let alone discuss it as an option.

 

I have seen a David Gaider comment about how the only way to meet the best of both worlds would be to up the number of LI's. I'm also fairly sure I remember him or another Dev saying that six would be the minimum needed. Unfortunately I have no idea where I saw it though, yet another Dev comment that I found interesting but lost track of completely. Feel free not to believe me that I ever saw it at all, as I'm growing unconvinced myself, though still fairly sure I did. It's definitely something that the forum has rolled with recently, though for good reason, I believe. 

 

Back when Cassandra was announced as an LI I was content just to be happy that the romance option I most wanted was available. But after all of this debating about how best to handle six LI's, if there will even be six LI's, and a group photo of interesting and incredibly well-rendered characters that more than met my expectations... 

 

I suddenly care a lot more about the LI setup than I ever intended to. Or should. And the companions in general, for that matter.

[Sylvianus]

Seriously, Cullen being an npc romance annoys me a lot. I don't know what to think. Maybe he is just one more romance ( like Sebastian in DAII ) to please his fanbase. (but scribbe girl seems very pretty too... )