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[karushna5]

I should have added this to my list of why people think she's more important.
 
Cassandra has a freaking movie.  She's quite the BAMF...she stars in her own movie where she does super cool things.  Let's see...she's the Divine's Right Hand.  She leads her own group of Seekers and takes no nonsense from dwarves with a penchant for lying.
 
Not surprised there are a fair amount of bisexual/lesbian women wanting to throw their panties at her.
 

 
Will they be two options with party member characters?

As much as she is cool, and she is my ideal in this game, having a movie does not make you important. Vega got a movie and he is probably one of the most inconsequential companions in the game. Vega had almost no purpose, and his movie seemed to be used to introduce us to him...?

[Ryzaki]

 

Mainly because I don't want them to stretch themselves that thin.  We need to be aware that word budgets are a very real thing.  Personally, I'd prefer 4, maybe 6 characters that were available to all versus trying to make every companions and major NPC in the game up for romance.  4 LIs, available to all is my preferred method.  I'm not against the idea of "set sexualities," just to let everyone know.  I'm just nervous about how they are going to handle it.  

 

In general: That's something I want to nip in the bud right now.  It isn't because we might not get our preferred LI and I would appreciate the devs stop claiming that is the only reason for this.   For some, that is the only reason.  However, after reading the forums for months, that isn't the majority of the concern.  For many of us (not everyone, blanket statements are bad,) it's because of things like making the only gay male LI an NPC ala ME.  Or how you can skip and/or kill off the only two bi romances in Origins.  Personally, that was where my apprehension is coming from, not "Oh, I might not get Cassandra as a LI."  

 

 

Sorry, there is only one companion for me (Varric) and since he's most likely not going to be a LI, I just stare longing at his fan art.  At least I get my favorite friendzone dwarf back.

 

 

Agreed. I rather have 4 bi LIs and have them use the rest of the word budget on a zanzy side quest or a extra conversation about the PC's background.

 

Ah well.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I think it's possible that Cass will be dismissable at one point, but I'm unsure. I think it might happen later in the game.

I think most party members will probably still have breaking points where they either leave or you have to kill them, too. That's most characters in every game. Cassandra has such an aggressive personality and strong beliefs that I could see her fully turning on you over some things. I think Vivienne's personality lends more towards just removing herself from the situation, if possible, though. She doesn't seem the type to take unnecessary risks with her life.  

[Barquiel]

Haha, I don't really think they are aiming those types toward us

Scribbles looked cute and adorable in the concept art, but she could be a ruthless Machiavellian schemer for all we know

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Scribbles looked cute and adorable in the concept art, but she could be a ruthless Machiavellian schemer for all we know

She's the political advisor and you're largely based out of Orlais. I'd say she has to be pretty ruthless. lol 

[Iakus]

Agreed. I rather have 4 bi LIs and have them use the rest of the word budget on a zanzy side quest or a extra conversation about the PC's background.

 

Ah well.

 

If they have enough of a word budget for four Inquisitor voices, I imagine they've got a pretty big budget this time around

[daveliam]

Scribbles looked cute and adorable in the concept art, but she could be a ruthless Machiavellian schemer for all we know

 

When the table stabby war room concept art came out, people said that it looked like DHMG was saying "That's mahogany!" (a la Effie Trinket).  Gaider's response was that he and several of the other writers had the same thought, but about Scribe Girl.  So I think she's going to be ostentatious and over the top like Effie Trinket.

[Iakus]

 
   I think it's possible that Cass will be dismissable at one point, but I'm unsure. I think it might happen later in the game.

I think it's already been confirmed that most if not all the companions can be either not recruited or kicked to the curb.

[azarhal]

Let's face it: It's Bioware's own fault for making Cass so gosh darn irresistible.

 

I think that being Cassandra-sexual might be a thing.

[jlb524]

Scribbles looked cute and adorable in the concept art, but she could be a ruthless Machiavellian schemer for all we know

 

Or embezzle money from the Inquisition's coffers. 

[Ryzaki]

If they have enough of a word budget for four Inquisitor voices, I imagine they've got a pretty big budget this time around

 

Still could've had that romance word content go somewhere else where more people could've used it (since the people who do the romances are a minority).

 

*shrugs* Just hoping there's not spots in the game where I go "why can't I say X?"

[daveliam]

Still could've had that romance word content go somewhere else where more people could've used it (since the people who do the romances are a minority).

 

Well by that logic, wouldn't we also not have an ending because didn't they say that most people didn't even finish the game?

[Ryzaki]

Well by that logic, wouldn't we also not have an ending because didn't they say that most people didn't even finish the game?

 

I think ME3 team tried that it didn't go well for them

 

Also I didn't say no romance content I said limited romance content. There's a difference.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Dismissed, yes, but I don't think you can overlook at least Vivienne, Cassandra and Varric.  I think the idea is that you could miss recruiting Sera all together, just like with Leliana and even the other bisexual lady, Isabela.   Kinda sad that the two women that have been openly bi (or at least openly talked about relationships with the same gender) in the series are both found in taverns that you can overlook all together.

Yeah, I totally understand why you're upset about that.

 

I mostly guess I just don't understand why Vivienne is assumed to be that important. She's tied to the mage plot and Celene, but I'm not sure that necessarily means she'll be more important than other companions. We're a bit unsure still what the driving plot in Inquisition even is. It's possible that Solas could be the most important of the mages, for example, due to his ties with the elf plot. We already know Cassandra is going to be vital, because they released that information, but I'm not sure we have enough information about other companions and their role to know which ones will be staple characters.

 

That being said, I do totally understand your concern given the past trends. 

[Iakus]

Still could've had that romance word content go somewhere else where more people could've used it (since the people who do the romances are a minority).

 

*shrugs* Just hoping there's not spots in the game where I go "why can't I say X?"

 

I actually prefer exclusive content (and not just for romances) And from what we've been told, looks like there'll be a significant amount of that.

 

You realize that's always going to be a thing, right? 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I think ME3 team tried that it didn't go well for them

Oh, burn! lol

[Ryzaki]

I actually prefer exclusive content (and not just for romances) And from what we've been told, looks like there'll be a significant amount of that.

 

You realize that's always going to be a thing, right? 

 

Fair enough of course. I prefer shared content with flavor text unless it's something like quests and those would hopefully be different based off morality and such.

 

True but it's particularly bad when it's something goddamn obvious.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I think ME3 team tried that it didn't go well for them

 

Also I didn't say no romance content I said limited romance content. There's a difference.

I liked the ME3 ending.

[Grieving Natashina]

I think this blog post by David Gaider gives some more context regarding his feelings about LI sexualities and DA2's model: he acknowledges that some people take the position that making all of the romances available to both genders takes away their agency, and then goes on to say that this perception is, in his view, "not really true."

 

http://dgaider.tumbl...ns-i-was-really

He also said this:

 

We’ve always been more interested in establishing a believable world and believable characters, and the romances—to us—are an extension of that rather than the purpose for it. Having equal opportunities for romance plots is a point of fairness and not indicative of a shift in the purpose of those plots, and I’d be fine with having more restrictions rather than less—of having some romances simply not working out, or less romances in total (even if they’re equally distributed in number).

 

Still waiting to hear how 4-6 people attracted to the PC in the entire world of Thedas isn't "believable" enough for them.  Oh and how restricting players choices of romance is somehow better based upon gender?  

 

Now, doing it based upon race?  That actually makes loads more sense.  Sexism and homophobia isn't a big problem in Thedas, but racism is a huge one.  Why is gender gating suddenly more believable than racism?  Isn't it also player "wish fulfillment" to romance the person that fits in their gender flags, regardless of race??  In a world where same sex relationships is considered overall not a huge deal, and where cross-race romances are very taboo,  Cassandra (a human of royal blood) is going to be able to be able to hook up with a player that's a Dalish apostate?  Why, because they are the PC?  That is more unbelievable to me than having 4-6 people that dared be attracted to both genders.

[Ryzaki]

I liked the ME3 ending.

 

The original one?

 

Hinata I could take your more unique traits but this goes too far.

 

_{Just messing with you}

[AresKeith]

The original one?

 

Hinata I could take your more unique traits but this goes too far.

 

_{Just messing with you}

 

^   

[WildOrchid]

I liked the ME3 ending.

 

 

I hope you don't mean the original.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Idea for more than 6 LIs pretty much confirmed as shot down.

People teasing me for liking ME3 ending. 

 

Today's going to be one of those days. 

[wright1978]

After Allans statement that we wouldn't get more than 4 LI's if everyone was bisexual, I now think, that we definitely won't get more than six LI's this time. If there were 8 LI's it wouldn't be a big deal to consider 5-6 LI's if everyone would have been bisexual.

Your probably right. I disagree with him that 2-2-2 system would provide equivalent choice to da2 as I view npc romances as deeply substandard to real companion romances & hence the system is in reality going to set up a canon romance per orientation rather than real choice as before.

[Grieving Natashina]

Your probably right. I disagree with him that 2-2-2 system would provide equivalent choice to da2 as I view npc romances as deeply substandard to real companion romances & hence the system is in reality going to set up a canon romance per orientation rather than real choice as before.

You summed up my feelings about that exactly.  

 

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