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[jlb524]

Granted, it could be that either Cass or Sera are bisexual and the other is straight, but I'd prefer if the bisexual one is the NPC, and I personally think it'll be like this.

 

I think one will be straight and the other bisexual so both will be Male!Inquis romance options.  It seems they are being set up as a foil to each other with completely different personalities/romance paths.  BW does this a lot with female romances (for the guys) and I doubt they'd stop here.  If Cassandra is too abrasive for you, hey there's a fun roguish elf option!

[The Elder King]

I think one will be straight and the other bisexual so both will be Male!Inquis romance options. It seems they are being set up as a foil to each other with completely different personalities/romance paths. BW does this a lot with female romances (for the guys) and I doubt they'd stop here.

I'd be disappointed, even if I'd be advantaged by this. I really hope the bisexual one will be Scribbles.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'd be disappointed, even if I'd be advantaged by this. I really hope the bisexual one will be Scribbles.

Which is why I think the NPC romances shouldn't be part of the 2/2/2 spectrum. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'm Sorry for you.

Thanks.

[wright1978]

I think one will be straight and the other bisexual so both will be Male!Inquis romance options.  It seems they are being set up as a foil to each other with completely different personalities/romance paths.  BW does this a lot with female romances (for the guys) and I doubt they'd stop here.  If Cassandra is too abrasive for you, hey there's a fun roguish elf option!

I'd be able to play a male elf romancing sera. However it would hardly be fair.

[The Elder King]

Which is why I think the NPC romances shouldn't be part of the 2/2/2 spectrum.

And I honestly don't think your theory should be completely ruled out.

[AresKeith]

Which is why I think the NPC romances shouldn't be part of the 2/2/2 spectrum. 

 

If they aren't part of the spectrum, they might end up getting less content than the others

[Grieving Natashina]

A gazillion times this!!! I've said this a million times only to be shot down every time with something along the lines of "HOLD UP BUT RACIAL RESTRICTIONS ARE... TOO... RESTRICTIVE".

 

 

 

I know right?  I mean, I can't run into a story or even a lot of sub-plots without race coming up.  And man, there is so much racism.  Many dwarves believe they are superior to all; many Dalish distrust or even hate humans for various reasons; Many humans think elves are meant to be subservient and dwarves are useful tools to supply lyrium.   For the most part, unless noble or royalty blood is at stake (the heir issue,) Thedas doesn't give a flying flip if two folks of the same gender are together.  Even among nobles and royals, as long as a viable heir is produced, not many bat an eyelash.

 

However, a royal with an elf?  That would be very scandelous, and yet, here we are.  Regardless if Cass is bi or not, she will be open to whatever race fits her gender flag.  That's very weird to me.

The only thing that pacifies me regarding the 2/2/2 split is that there will likely be some people out there quite thankful for that one fully gay character who they can relate to or who can represent them in some way (for example).

 

That is a gigantic plus to me as well.  It's more than past time that gay men and lesbian women had the chance to see one of the heroes out of the closet.  Not another villain that's possibly a pervert, a sadist or worse.  They need their heroes and I'm so glad that is coming.  

 

Agreed 100%.

 

Unless they really put a lot of effort into the NPC romances. Like, really integrate them into the story. I don't see that happening though.

 

<sigh> NPC romances...I'm not saying that the writers can't pull off a very meaningful NPC romance.  BioWare is one of the best in the business for character development and great story telling.  I just will never understand how a NPC that might be a guest party member sometimes and otherwise waiting at plot specific places is somehow equal to a companion romance.  It isn't about directly controlling the character either, it's about learning to mesh abilities in combat; it's about initiating dialogue almost any time I want. I'm fine with a good AI script that I can't control if that's the trade-off instead of NPC romances.

 

 

[saMoorai]

Has a 2/2/2 thing even been confirmed? I assumed it was going to be 2 straight, and 2 Bi like in Origins.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

And I honestly don't think your theory should be completely ruled out.

From what Allan said, it seems as long as each orientations gets 2 options, they find that as enough. I mean, they may surprise me but with each passing day my hope dwindles.

 

 

If they aren't part of the spectrum, they might end up getting less content than the others

People here will argue they get less content regardless since they don't travel with you. 

[Grieving Natashina]

Has a 2/2/2 thing even been confirmed? I assumed it was going to be 2 straight, and 2 Bi like in Origins.

It's been confirmed that there will be gay, lesbian, straight and bisexual romances.  All else is speculation for right now.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

It seems like so many of those wanting f/f LIs here have made Cassandra their priority, I wonder at this point if there wouldn't be less disappointment if Scribbles was a lesbian if it meant Cassandra was bisexual. 

 

I think NPC LIs being included in the 2/2/2 structure was just a bad choice, though, honestly. There's no way for everyone to get equivalent options to DA2 like this. I think they really should have either had 6 companion LIs for 2/2/2 or 4 bi companion LIs. 

[The Elder King]

Has a 2/2/2 thing even been confirmed? I assumed it was going to be 2 straight, and 2 Bi like in Origins.

Nope, they confirmed there'll be homosexual LIs as well.

[The Elder King]

From what Allan said, it seems as long as each orientations gets 2 options, they find that as enough. I mean, they may surprise me but with each passing day my hope dwindles.
 

That's certainly makes your theory not likely, and it's better to not expect it to happen, but it's still possible. After all, if they chose the 2/2/2 approach I don't see why they didn't confirm it.

[AresKeith]

People here will argue they get less content regardless since they don't travel with you. 

 

And it's too early for them too assume that since the only other example of this is the ME games and that was poorly handled due to many factors

[saMoorai]

Hmm. Interesting. 

 

Here's hoping (for me atleast) that Sera won't be the gay option.

[Ianamus]

Nope, they confirmed there'll be homosexual LIs as well.

 

They did?

 

From what I remember they only said that there would be gay and straight characters, nothing about companions or LI's in particular. 

[wright1978]

It seems like so many of those wanting f/f LIs here have made Cassandra their priority, I wonder at this point if there wouldn't be less disappointment if Scribbles was a lesbian if it meant Cassandra was bisexual. 
 
I think NPC LIs being included in the 2/2/2 structure was just a bad choice, though, honestly. There's no way for everyone to get equivalent options to DA2 like this. I think they really should have either had 6 companion LIs for 2/2/2 or 4 bi companion LIs.

Yeah 6 companion li's should have been the obvious response after for whatever reason they felt they wanted to go down gating cul-de-sac. I blame Cullen for presence of awful npc romances.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

That's certainly makes your theory not likely, and it's better to not expect it to happen, but it's still possible. After all, if they chose the 2/2/2 approach I don't see why they didn't confirm it.

Yeah. But my options are:

A ) Hope for the system only to be disappointed later

B ) Don't hope for the system and be disappointed now.

 

Choices are fun. 

 

 

And it's too early for them too assume that since the only other example of this is the ME games and that was poorly handled due to many factors

I know, but people will say it since they are technically true. The romance content may be equal but the overall content will be lerss simply because advisers won't chime in during quests like companions do. 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

They did?

 

From what I remember they only said that there would be gay and straight characters, nothing about companions or LI's in particular. 

Contextually, they were pretty clearly talking about the romance system. 

[Ianamus]

Contextually, they were pretty clearly talking about the romance system. 

 

True, but I wouldn't yet go as far as to say it's been confirmed. Heavily implied, but not outright stated. 

 

I also think they were talking about companions in general as well, not just the romance system

[Grieving Natashina]

And it's too early for them too assume that since the only other example of this is the ME games and that was poorly handled due to many factors

How is it too early to assume that they will get less screen time than our companions?  Our companions are the ones that we will be fighting with and talking to the most, and certainly.  They aren't limited by any sort of pre-designated plot point if I want to talk to them, though I know that affection is gated by story (makes sense.)

 

By default, the NPC romances will get less screen time.  Am I automatically dismissing the idea that BioWare could somehow make them as meaningful as any companion romance?  No, because I do have faith that they know what they are doing.   They are good writers, so I'm willing to keep an open mind.  

 

On the other hand, it strikes me as very tricky to make a part-time character be as important to the player as any PC romance, unless you're a huge fan of that NPC.

[Ianamus]

How is it too early to assume that they will get less screen time than our companions?  Our companions are the ones that we will be fighting with and talking to the most, and certainly.  They aren't limited by any sort of pre0designated plot point if I want to talk to them, though I know that affection is gated by story (makes sense.)

 

By default, the NPC romances will get less screen time.  Am I automatically dismissing the idea that BioWare could somehow make them as meaningful as any companion romance?  No, because I do have faith that they know what they are doing.   They are good writers, so I'm willing to keep an open mind.  

 

On the other hand, it strikes me as very tricky to make a part-time character be as important to the player as any PC romance, unless you're a huge fan of that NPC.

 

It all comes down to how often you speak to that NPC though. 

 

I'd argue that, for example, Joker was as large a part of the Mass Effect games as any of the companions. 

[Wulfram]

 

How is just letting folks stew and get their anxieties up better for the fanbase?  It would be better to get all of that out of the way at once, put everything on the table, and be disappointed now then in a few months.  

 

Also, you're forgetting the flip side: it would allow posters to also know what to be excited for as far as romances.  That way they can go (for example) "Oh well, X is straight but hey, my second choice X is gay!  Awesome, I look forward to it."  Posters aren't always negative, you know.

 

Edit: I think I misread you.  It seems like you were agreeing with Hina and I on a second glance.  My apologizes.  

 

What I meant is that it's better that they've at least indicated that everyone might not be bi, rather than letting that assumption stand until later.  More information would be better, of course.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

True, but I wouldn't yet go as far as to say it's been confirmed. Heavily implied, but not outright stated. 

 

I also think they were talking about companions in general as well, not just the romance system

I took it to mean they confirmed at least one homosexual LI. To me, it seemed like they were talking about the romance system and not characters, generally. But it seems like it's really difficult to get the wording perfectly on anything for people to understand what is and isn't being confirmed. Like, is Iron Bull a companion, is he a warrior, is Cullen confirmed a romance and not a companion. It seems like the wording always comes out to mean different things to different people unless clarified again, sometimes multiple times. So, I suppose there's a possibility that I took this wrong.