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[daveliam]

True, I'm assuming, but I find it unlikely that they would do anything other than 2/2/2, since no other method (other than all-LI) would be beneficial.

 

Since Laidlaw/Darrah said on Twitter that 'there will be gay, bi and hetero characters', I think it would be very unlikely that they would go back to the Origins method. Even if the phrasing was odd.

 

While I agree that it is likely, here's my issue and it's also around the wording.

 

Remember when Greg Ellis "confirmed" that Cullen was an LI and companion on twitter?  Everyone took that tweet and ran with it as if it were a confirmation.  Meanwhile, what he was actually confirming was "companionship", which is what the person had asked about.

 

In this tweet, Darrah confirmed that there would be straight, bi, and gay characters.  He didn't say that there would be straight, bi, and gay love interests.  The "coming to terms with his/her sexuality" character could be a gay companion who we help out (similar to how we helped Aveline in romance).

 

Yeah, I know that there is a difference between a VA tweet and a dev tweet and I know that I'm using alot of "maybes" in this scenario, but, unfortunately, there's nothing to say that my "maybes" are wrong at this point.  Is it likely?  Sure.  Is it possible that they are correct?  Yes and that's why I'm still just a little concerned despite my best attempts to stay positive.

[Grieving Natashina]

I think much of their phrasing of this has been rather poor on their part, which has been leading to fan anger and frustration.  They are only human, so I wont shoot the messengers.  Still, I hope that they are able to take some time before E3 to clarify things further.  Tweets, and even the forum boards are not always the best places to discuss romance content in full.  This would be perfect for either an online Q&A or a panel at a convention.  I am pretty bummed by the news too, and very disappointed with the wording by some of the devs, for sure.  It still hasn't changed my mind about going for the "Uber Edition," but it isn't great news for me to read.  

 

Remember BSN: To each their own. As I said last night, I'm happy for those that wanted defined sexuality.  I mean that with no sarcasm.  I knew any approach that BioWare was going to take was going to leave at least some players in the cold.  For some of you guys though, show some class.  I'm glad you were right about set sexuality being the LI route for Inquisition, but you don't need to be a childish jackass about the matter.

[daveliam]

You may wish all you want that it isn't true

But I could bet my Pokemon Y that it is true

And all of you guys are just overreacting

And no, Sebastian doesn't count since he is a DLC LI.

In fact, if you count him and Tallis

Both having very little romance content

It is 4 LIs and 2 half-LIs

Still even

Yep

 

I don't wish that it isn't true.  Do you actually read what I write?  Or do you just assume that anyone who doesn't support your decisions is against you?  You think you are right.  You don't know you are right.  Period.

[Chari]

I don't wish that it isn't true.  Do you actually read what I write?  Or do you just assume that anyone who doesn't support your decisions is against you?  You think you are right.  You don't know you are right.  Period.

It seems you just want to have an argument if you misinterpret my words this seriously +_+

I firmly believe in what I, eh, believe. Believe it or not

And I have no reason not to +_+

I'm content, I wish you good luck and good mood

[venusara]

They announced in a magazine interview that there would be a variety of sexualities in the game.  Darrah (I think) later confirmed "straight, bisexual, and gay characters" in response to the question about the romances. 

Thank you for the answer. I thought from what I read before Gaider liked playersexuality and so did I. I hope the straight femInquisitors will at least get one human companion choice.   

[Former_Fiend]

Thank you for the answer. I thought from what I read before Gaider liked playersexuality and so did I. I hope the straight femInquisitors will at least get one human companion choice. 

 

And I've seen quite a few people hoping their homosexual inquisitor won't be stuck with an elf.

 

I think this is demonstrative of the fact that no matter what Bioware does, they'll never be able to please everyone.

[Swoopdogg]

Okay, who was the one who complained about playersexual characters and made bioware change it? You know they listen to us too much

[daveliam]

It seems you just want to have an argument if you misinterpret my words this seriously +_+

I firmly believe in what I, eh, believe. Believe it or not

And I have no reason not to +_+

I'm content, I wish you good luck and good mood

 

That's the problem.  You do have reason not to believe it, but you dismiss it or ignore it arbitrarily.  If you phrased it as speculation, that's one thing.  But you keep phrasing it as what you "know" and what "is" going to happen.  The bottom line is that you are speculating based on limited evidence so you don't know anything. 

[daveliam]

And I've seen quite a few people hoping their homosexual inquisitor won't be stuck with an elf.

 

I think this is demonstrative of the fact that no matter what Bioware does, they'll never be able to please everyone.

 

Agreed.  There is, literally, no way to please all of us.  I'm one of the people who really hopes I don't get stuck with the "bisexual elf" again, so I understand it first hand.  I'm just hoping that the people disappointed in this game aren't the same that have been historically disappointed in almost all of the past games. 

[CronoDragoon]

For some of you guys though, show some class.  I'm glad you were right about set sexuality being the LI route for Inquisition, but you don't need to be a childish jackass about the matter.

 

This goes for everyone involved, not just one side of the issue.

 

I didn't care about everyone being bisexual in DA2 and I don't care about everyone having a set sexuality in DA: I. Each way has its pros and cons. So long as the representation is equal, it comes down to "less romanceable characters per playthrough" (although in practice, for me, it won't, since I have no issues romancing a bisexual female). Personally, I don't see this as an issue in itself. KOTOR only had 1 each (I think). If the writing is good, it won't be an issue. If the writing is poor, then it'd be an issue regardless.

 

I am sympathetic, though, to the preference for wish fulfillment over "realism" or "verisimilitude" or whatever you want to call it. Different people will value different things in games. It's easy for me to say less romances aren't a big deal as a straight white male, but that doesn't invalidate my opinion that less romances aren't a big deal.

 

Edit: After the first sentence is my general opinion on the news, not directed at you, Natashina (not that the first sentence was directed AT you.Ugh, you get the idea).

[venusara]

And I've seen quite a few people hoping their homosexual inquisitor won't be stuck with an elf.

 

I think this is demonstrative of the fact that no matter what Bioware does, they'll never be able to please everyone.

Oh course not, but the playersexuality thing, while not perfect, was a step in the right direction imo. Straight FemShep was seriously shafted in the romance department in ME3 and I'd hate to see the same thing happen here to the FemInquisitor (don't want anyone else to feel that way either, hence my liking of playsexuality). I would be perfectly happy if when they said defined sexuality they were talking about the random characters in the world as opposed to the li's like someone else here just mentioned though. That I could get behind.  

[BubbleDncr]

Uh, not necessarily. We don't know which companions are gay, bi and straight yet. (Or who the romances are at all, beyond Cullen and Cassandra.)

 

If Cullen and Scribbles are the bisexual options, though, then everyone who has a gender preference will have a companion and an NPC.

 

I'm hoping the bi options are actually companions. Cos just looking at all the previous DA games, they always had 2 LI companions who were more important to the plot: Morrigan (Dark Ritual) and Alistair (King stuff) in DA:O, and Anders (starting wars) and Isabella (qunari issues) in DA2.

 

And I always thought that it was more rewarding to to romance one of those characters in your first playthrough than the other romances - which, while they may occasionally be better written, just don't have the jaw-dropping moment where you have to choose between your LI and your beliefs/the greater good. And I would like everyone to be able to experience that, not just the straight characters (like in Origins), or just the gay characters.

 

Unless they just make all the LI's have an "important to the plot moment," which would be amazing.

[Mad Cassidy]

Has anyone tweeted the devs asking for whom the confirmed LIs are available? They tend to respond to twitter questions more than they do to forum posts. (I would ask myself, but I lack both an account and the requisite understanding of how the thing works). At least that might narrow down the possibilities (provided Cameron Lee was referring to companions in his interview), and it shouldn't be too much of a spoiler considering they've already been outed in some capacity.

[Former_Fiend]

Oh course not, but the playersexuality thing, while not perfect, was a step in the right direction imo. Straight FemShep was seriously shafted in the romance department in ME3 and I'd hate to see the same thing happen here to the FemInquisitor (don't want anyone else to feel that way either, hence my liking of playsexuality). I would be perfectly happy if when they said defined sexuality they were talking about the random characters in the world as opposed to the li's like someone else here just mentioned though. That I could get behind.  

 

I happen to agree. But given that I've spent far too large a portion of the last twenty four hours arguing about it in another(now closed) thread, it's apparent to me that not everyone does.

[LiaraShepard]

Oh course not, but the playersexuality thing, while not perfect, was a step in the right direction imo. Straight FemShep was seriously shafted in the romance department in ME3 and I'd hate to see the same thing happen here to the FemInquisitor (don't want anyone else to feel that way either, hence my liking of playsexuality). I would be perfectly happy if when they said defined sexuality they were talking about the random characters in the world as opposed to the li's like someone else here just mentioned though. That I could get behind.  

 

Mass Effect was another team, and fem_hawke had one additional option (Sebsatian) than the other sexualitys. so I don't think they ignore fem inquisitor.

[Grieving Natashina]

Has anyone tweeted the devs asking for whom the confirmed LIs are available? They tend to respond to twitter questions more than they do to forum posts. (I would ask myself, but I lack both an account and the requisite understanding of how the thing works). At least that might narrow down the possibilities (provided Cameron Lee was referring to companions in his interview), and it shouldn't be too much of a spoiler considering they've already been outed in some capacity.

Numerous times and the devs seem to be getting annoyed by it.

[Mad Cassidy]

Numerous times and the devs seem to be getting annoyed by it.

 

That's...pretty much what I expected. Ah well. Guess it's the waiting game then.

[LiaraShepard]

I hope the importance of characters is as balanced as in DA2. Both Isabela and Anders are story relevated and you can romance them with each gender. It was a good idea that was lacked in DAO.

[rapscallioness]

Seriously, Cullen being an npc romance annoys me a lot. I don't know what to think. Maybe he is just one more romance ( like Sebastian in DAII ) to please his fanbase. (but scribbe girl seems very pretty too... )

Well, to be fair, we are coming to that npc romance conclusion based off of the group shot thing and who has weapons, and who does not.

 

The devs themselves have not actually said they were doing npc romances. At least, not that I've seen. Coulda missed it. I think Maaaaybe they are doing npc romances, but I can't say for sure.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Numerous times and the devs seem to be getting annoyed by it.

Then they shouldn't have said anything about romances.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well, to be fair, we are coming to that npc romance conclusion based off of the group shot thing and who has weapons, and who does not.

 

The devs themselves have not actually said they were doing npc romances. At least, not that I've seen. Coulda missed it. I think Maaaaybe they are doing npc romances, but I can't say for sure.

They have to be, at this point. The trailer showed all 9 companions plus Cullen, Leliana, and Scribbles. And we know Cullen is a LI.

[Hellion Rex]

Then they shouldn't have said anything about romances.

Indeed. I am rather surprised they released something like this so early. Of course the number of questions was gonna increase exponentially by releasing that info.

[venusara]

Mass Effect was another team, and fem_hawke had one additional option (Sebsatian) than the other sexualitys. so I don't think they ignore fem inquisitor.

Right and true. And I didn't say ignore, but just given poor choices in comparison to others in ME3 and I hope a similar thing doesn't happen here. I just want the hottie Dorian for my straight femInquis and don't want to be stuck with only Solas (based on looks alone, shallow---I know!  ) and Cullen (don't like him).

I'll still like the game regardless surely, I'm obsessed with the DA series and always find the positive, I just want my cake and to eat it too. Is that so wrong?

[Grieving Natashina]

Then they shouldn't have said anything about romances.

No debates from me, and I agree with you FWIW.  I'm just the messenger.  

[LiaraShepard]

Right and true. And I didn't say ignore, but just given poor choices in comparison to others in ME3 and I hope a similar thing doesn't happen here. I just want the hottie Dorian for my straight femInquis and don't want to be stuck with only Solas (based on looks alone, shallow---I know!  ) and Cullen (don't like him).

I'll still like the game regardless surely, I'm obsessed with the DA series and always find the positive, I just want my cake and to eat it too. Is that so wrong?

 

No, it's not wrong, and if I had a say in romance options, everyone would be available for each gender. I don't necessarily want them to be bisexual by nature. There are so many possibilities, for example characters who are openly bi, or those who are playersexual or companions who are actually straight and still fall in love with the gay main character after a great deal of charming persuation and time spent together. I understand why people don't like this idea, but I'd still prefer a greater amount of romance options for everyone ...