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[Abelas Forever!]

What bothered me with ME3 and its LIs for straight women was that two romances which started in ME2 didn't go well in ME3. So if you are given something and it's taken away then it hurts and it just happened to be the LIs for straight women. What comes to DAI it hasn't that problem because you have a new protagonist. However it is possible that one of the romances is tragic romance because the world is quite dark and bad things happens so why not in romances too.

[venusara]

For the most part, I like book-Stannis more than show-Stannis.
 
Like show-Hound a hell of a lot more than book-Hound, though.

I read and watch and Stannis just seems a bit unbalanced or something especially in his relations with Mel. I like the hound alright...

[Former_Fiend]

To be perfectly fair, everyone who romanced Thane(myself included on my fem-shep playthrough) knew exactly what they were getting into.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

To be perfectly fair, everyone who romanced Thane(myself included on my fem-shep playthrough) knew exactly what they were getting into.

Not so. I can't count how many "Find a cure" threads there were before ME3.

[venusara]

What bothered me with ME3 and its LIs for straight women was that two romances which started in ME2 didn't go well in ME3. So if you are given something and it's taken away then it hurts and it just happened to be the LIs for straight women. What comes to DAI it hasn't that problem because you have a new protagonist. However it is possible that one of the romances is tragic romance because the world is quite dark and bad things happens so why not in romances too.

My FemShep was in a relationship with Thane and it was really a shameful way they ended both the Thane and Jacob relationships in ME3. Jacob's was even worse than Thane's imo.

[Former_Fiend]

Not so. I can't count how many "Find a cure" threads there were before ME3.

 

Well, some(a lot) of people are always going to try and kid themselves.

 

I do think they could have handled Thane's romance up to his death and the aftermath better, but I never doubted he was going to die.

[Abelas Forever!]

My FemShep was in a relationship with Thane and it was really a shameful way they ended both the Thane and Jacob relationships in ME3. Jacob's was even worse than Thane's imo.

My FemShep was also in relationship with Thane and I romanced him although I guessed that it wouldn't end well. But yes Jacob was even worse. I don't like unhappy romances but I also see that not every romance can be happy. I guess it just doesn't feel right if everybody can live happily ever after if they want to. I guess I'm just preparing myself for the tragic romance if there is one in DAI and also hoping that none of my romances are tragic. So if one romance is tragic so maybe the other option (if there are multiple options for straigh females) feels better.

[Vapaa]

My FemShep was also in relationship with Thane and I romanced him although I guessed that it wouldn't end well. But yes Jacob was even worse. I don't like unhappy romances but I also see that not every romance can be happy. I guess it just doesn't feel right if everybody can live happily ever after if they want to. I guess I'm just preparing myself for the tragic romance if there is one in DAI and also hoping that none of my romances are tragic. So if one romance is tragic so maybe the other option (if there are multiple options for straigh females) feels better.

 

The problem with Jacob is that it's unexpected (as opposed to Thane) AND it's the only romance to end this way, so the pill is even harder to swallow. And that's not counting the handling of the romance itself (cheating after 6 months, classy) and the unfortunate implications it carries (black men are sex-obessed cheaters).

 

Just, wow, what a trainwreck.

[Former_Fiend]

Didn't help that his new girl seemed more interested in Shepard than him.

[Clockwork_Wings]

Yeah, Jacob caught me off guard and I didn't even romance him! 

 

At least the only thing more important to Garrus than his job is his Shep.

[BubbleDncr]

I actually had forgotten Jacob cheated on you if you romanced him. Yea, kind of lame that one of the femShep romances dies and the other cheats on you, but all of maleShep's girlfriends stay loyal and live at least as long as he lives....

[Clockwork_Wings]

Hardest thing I'd ever had to do in a video game, was put Garrus on the transport and then run into the light. 

[Inquisitor Julianos]

...Man this topic gets derailed alot XD

[Clockwork_Wings]

Back on track, romancing Garrus had an emotional impact for me.  Romancing in DA...did not.  I always do, just for that extra little bit, but I don't recall a time where I felt an emotional punch for it.

 

Well, Zevran calling me "cruel to the end" for leaving him at the gates, but that's about it. 

 

I could stand for some sort of payoff for romancing.  Something like Fable 2, but not offscreen.  Something like the kidnapping from DA2, but tailored to the couple.

[Vapaa]

...Man this topic gets derailed alot XD

 

Well, ME3 was the last Bioware game to date, so everyone looks at how romance was handled back then...

...and everyone just NOPE.

 

I would say we should look at the last DA game...until Cameron says that romances in DAI will not be like DA2

[Inquisitor Julianos]

id say just keep an open mind, take notes from everything they've done in DA and ME as an example, but dont just go "MASS EFFECT 3 ROMANCES FOR EVERYONE!" they've been thinking hard on how to make everything better, and have been looking at alot of rpg's out there so we wont really know.

[BubbleDncr]

Back on track, romancing Garrus had an emotional impact for me.  Romancing in DA...did not.  I always do, just for that extra little bit, but I don't recall a time where I felt an emotional punch for it.

 

Well, Zevran calling me "cruel to the end" for leaving him at the gates, but that's about it. 

 

I could stand for some sort of payoff for romancing.  Something like Fable 2, but not offscreen.  Something like the kidnapping from DA2, but tailored to the couple.

 

The kidnapping thing, they would take your love interest if both 1) your brother/sister died in the deep roads, and 2) you didn't happen to have your LI with you when it was supposed to happen. Which seems like very few people would actually get the stars to align for that, unintentionally (since most people seem to bring their LI with them all the time), but I think it was a lot more interesting than your sibling being kidnapped.

 

Otherwise, I thought the DA LI's were pretty impactful - if you romanced the "important ones."

 

1) My first playthrough I romanced Alistair as an elf. Convinced him to keep me as his mistress, all was well with world..BOOM. One of you has to die. Oh wait! You can both live happily ever after if you convince him into sleeping with Morrigan and fathering an old god baby. But the two of you will never be able to have kids.....sadness ensues.

 

2) First playthrough, I also romanced Anders...everything was going fine, we were gonna live happily ever after....BOOM. Anders blows up the chantry. I was randomly yelling out "god damnit Anders!" for days after that.

 

That's why I feel very strongly they need to either all make all the companion LI's "important to the plot," or else make the companions who are, bisexual. So everyone can have that experience.

[Sjofn]

Back on track, romancing Garrus had an emotional impact for me.  Romancing in DA...did not.  I always do, just for that extra little bit, but I don't recall a time where I felt an emotional punch for it.

 

Well, Zevran calling me "cruel to the end" for leaving him at the gates, but that's about it. 

 

I'm the opposite, I found the DA romances far more engaging than the ME ones. Garrus (and Tali, really) does have a little bit of an advantage because you get to string that relationship, romantic or otherwise, across three games, though, so the attachment can really cement into place. The Dragon Age ones only have one game to make it count, if you will.

[Clockwork_Wings]

The kidnapping thing, they would take your love interest if both 1) your brother/sister died in the deep roads, and 2) you didn't happen to have your LI with you when it was supposed to happen. Which seems like very few people would actually get the stars to align for that, unintentionally (since most people seem to bring their LI with them all the time), but I think it was a lot more interesting than your sibling being kidnapped.

 

Otherwise, I thought the DA LI's were pretty impactful - if you romanced the "important ones."

 

1) My first playthrough I romanced Alistair as an elf. Convinced him to keep me as his mistress, all was well with world..BOOM. One of you has to die. Oh wait! You can both live happily ever after if you convince him into sleeping with Morrigan and fathering an old god baby. But the two of you will never be able to have kids.....sadness ensues.

 

2) First playthrough, I also romanced Anders...everything was going fine, we were gonna live happily ever after....BOOM. Anders blows up the chantry. I was randomly yelling out "god damnit Anders!" for days after that.

 

That's why I feel very strongly they need to either all make all the companion LI's "important to the plot," or else make the companions who are, bisexual. So everyone can have that experience.

That's why I rarely romance Leliana or Zevran.  I romanced Leliana before I got to know Morrigan and romance Zevran as a Lady Cousland, but I feel like...becoming the father of the harbinger of the apocalypse or the king's mistress, that has lasting story value.  Nobody cares what a couple of rogues or assassins get up to in the long run, such things are par the course for their lifestyle.

 

I also didn't like how you couldn't smooch Leli or Zev in public and elicit reactions from the rest of the party.  Made the romance feel...smaller. 

 

Leliana having a recurring presence in the games, I may start romancing her again.  (Stop worrying about her being alive if she died in your game, they devs have stated that will be explained).

 

I'm the opposite, I found the DA romances far more engaging than the ME ones. Garrus (and Tali, really) does have a little bit of an advantage because you get to string that relationship, romantic or otherwise, across three games, though, so the attachment can really cement into place. The Dragon Age ones only have one game to make it count, if you will.

I think...it's a combination of how Garrus takes Shepard out for a date, shooting bottles off the rooftops, and then that one line.

 

Shepard: Garrus!  I'll always love you!

 

Other than that...something about the romances seemed much lighter than in DA.  When one romances in DA2, the companions refer to them in different ways.  Anders calls Hawke, "Love," Morrigan asks, "Your desire?" in a sultry tone, Zevran makes a poetry joke, Alistair says your wish is his command, etc.  I don't recall them doing that in Mass Effect.

[Maria Caliban]

The Liara romance was highly engaging to me. It also had the benefit of lasting over three games and involving a plot important NPC who could never die, and got a DLC focused on her.

I can't really compare that to the DA romances, which last a single game. Isabela was a plot-important character, but I wouldn't compare her to Alistiar, Morrigan, or Liara.

[fiveforchaos]

My FemShep was also in relationship with Thane and I romanced him although I guessed that it wouldn't end well. But yes Jacob was even worse. I don't like unhappy romances but I also see that not every romance can be happy. I guess it just doesn't feel right if everybody can live happily ever after if they want to. I guess I'm just preparing myself for the tragic romance if there is one in DAI and also hoping that none of my romances are tragic. So if one romance is tragic so maybe the other option (if there are multiple options for straight females) feels better.

I was just kinda disappointed that they didn't count Thane as having "romanced a character" in ME3. With Jacob, he cheated on you, there was no romance. With Thane you could remain faithful, and continue to date him right up until the end. Now that's what I call a romance.

[BubbleDncr]

That's why I rarely romance Leliana or Zevran.  I romanced Leliana before I got to know Morrigan and romance Zevran as a Lady Cousland, but I feel like...becoming the father of the harbinger of the apocalypse or the king's mistress, that has lasting story value.  Nobody cares what a couple of rogues or assassins get up to in the long run, such things are par the course for their lifestyle.

 

I also didn't like how you couldn't smooch Leli or Zev in public and elicit reactions from the rest of the party.  Made the romance feel...smaller. 

 

Leliana having a recurring presence in the games, I may start romancing her again.  (Stop worrying about her being alive if she died in your game, they devs have stated that will be explained).

 

I think...it's a combination of how Garrus takes Shepard out for a date, shooting bottles off the rooftops, and then that one line.

 

Shepard: Garrus!  I'll always love you!

 

Other than that...something about the romances seemed much lighter than in DA.  When one romances in DA2, the companions refer to them in different ways.  Anders calls Hawke, "Love," Morrigan asks, "Your desire?" in a sultry tone, Zevran makes a poetry joke, Alistair says your wish is his command, etc.  I don't recall them doing that in Mass Effect.

 

After Leliana did an appearance in DA2, I decided to have a save where she was my final romance, but yea...Zevran doesn't have much reason to feel important.

 

That said, I do think his is the sweetest romance in the game, and worth doing for that reason alone. I haven't really romanced Merrill yet, but I feel the same way about Fenris' compared to Anders.

 

So I feel like they do balance it out a bit, it's just that the "important ones" are best experienced on your first playthrough, because then it's all shocking and a surprise.

[Sjofn]

Yeah put me in the "Zevran's romance was its own reward" camp. It was very sweet, and while none of the big Plot Moments involved him directly, not wanting to break his little heart by dying definitely influenced my end game decisions.

 

Isabella was my favorite DA2 romance ... apparently I have a Type. A very, very promiscuous type. 

[BubbleDncr]

Yeah put me in the "Zevran's romance was its own reward" camp. It was very sweet, and while none of the big Plot Moments involved him directly, not wanting to break his little heart by dying definitely influenced my end game decisions.

 

Isabella was my favorite DA2 romance ... apparently I have a Type. A very, very promiscuous type. 

 

Well good thing you can experience them both at the same time. Twice!

[Sjofn]

Won't lie, I'm going to be sad if DA:I breaks the Isabella-and-Zevran-have-a-threesome-with-my-hero streak. Which I'm sure it will. Alas!