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[CronoDragoon]

It's a horrendous example of "Tell, don't show" though. 

 

Pretty required for the scope of information they want to convey. You are talking about decades of events they want to detail.

[Ianamus]

Pretty required for the scope of information they want to convey. You are talking about decades of events they want to detail.

 

I know, but if your going to have such a deep, detailed tragedy happen to a character, particularly an LI, either include it in the events of the game or leave it out. An epilogue slide is kind of a cheap way to end a character you've spent the past 30+ hours with. 

[Deadmac]

Since the announcement of "Dragon Age: Inqusition", the majority of the hype has been around homosexuality, lesbian, and gay relationships. As a result of overemphasising the hemosexual aspects of "Dragon Age: Inqusition", BioWare has inadvertantly caused it to overshadow the game's other attributes. Even though there are threads about skill trees, customization, and storytelling, the only thing that comes to mind is that "Dragon Age: Inqusition" is about forming gay relationships.

 

What I want to see in romances?

 

Hetrosexual relationships that revolve around old school fantasy movies and novels. Relationships that mirror: Lili & Jack (Legend), Aragon & Arwen (Lord of the Rings), Tristan & Isolde (Tristan & Isolde), and Dunstan Thorn & Yvaine (Stardust). I want to be able to sweep a girl off her feet, take her into battle, and save the bloody world. I want to feel love, loss, and victory. As some who has an alpha male personality, I want my female love interest to 'need me'.

 

I do not want to be used as a tool.

 

I want the female characters to aknowledge me as a man.

 

I want that old school emphasis on 'saving the love of my life'.

 

I want to come in on horseback, fight off the enemy, and save my female lover from danger.

[Ianamus]

Since the announcement of "Dragon Age: Inqusition", the majority of the hype has been around homosexuality, lesbian, and gay relationships. As a result of overemphasising the hemosexual aspects of "Dragon Age: Inqusition", BioWare has inadvertantly caused it to overshadow the game's other attributes. Even though there are threads about skill trees, customization, and storytelling, the only thing that comes to mind is that "Dragon Age: Inqusition" is about forming gay relationships.

 

Bioware have only mentioned it about twice, and romances as a whole aren't even mentioned on Inquisitions site. 

 

Fans may overemphasize the romance aspects of the game if they particularly enjoy them, but Bioware certainly don't. 

[Iakus]

XD

 

 

I don't mind that so much but we have had male LIs who had children (Carth, Sky, Thane) but I can't think of a single female one with a child that wasn't the PCs.

 

Well there's always the possibility of a male Warden who romanced Morrigan and convinced Alistair to do the Dark Ritual...

 

THat's just all kinds of creepy though 

[Allan Schumacher]

Since the announcement of "Dragon Age: Inqusition", the majority of the hype has been around homosexuality, lesbian, and gay relationships. As a result of overemphasising the hemosexual aspects of "Dragon Age: Inqusition", BioWare has inadvertantly caused it to overshadow the game's other attributes. Even though there are threads about skill trees, customization, and storytelling, the only thing that comes to mind is that "Dragon Age: Inqusition" is about forming gay relationships.

 

This hype comes from the fan base.

 

And from our perspective our marketing so far as been pretty light.  Mostly teases and stuff more attuned to people already avidly following the game.

[AkiKishi]

I know, but if your going to have such a deep, detailed tragedy happen to a character, particularly an LI, either include it in the events of the game or leave it out. An epilogue slide is kind of a cheap way to end a character you've spent the past 30+ hours with. 

 

Try 150-200 hours Baldurs Gate 1/2/TOB. Characters exist to tell a story, once the game ends then they don't really have a purpose anymore anyway.

 

Its not cheap since it fits in very well with what would actually happen if a handmaiden turned her back on not only her race but her religion. That story was never going to have a happy ending nor should it. 

[naddaya]

Hetrosexual relationships that revolve around old school fantasy movies and novels. Relationships that mirror: Lili & Jack (Legend), Aragon & Arwen (Lord of the Rings), Tristan & Isolde (Tristan & Isolde), and Dunstan Thorn & Yvaine (Stardust). I want to be able to sweep a girl off her feet, take her into battle, and fight side-by-side to the end of days. I want to feel love, loss, and victory. As some who has an alpha male personality, I want my female love interest to 'need me'.

 

I do not want to be used as a tool.

 

I want the female characters to aknowledge me as a man.

 

I want that old school emphasis on 'saving the love of my life'.

 

I want to come in on horseback, fight off the enemy, and save my female lover from danger.

 

Cassandra, Vivienne and Sera are far from being needy, damsel in distress types. Unless they add a non-companion LI that fits the description, I have the feeling you'll be disappointed

[Ianamus]

Try 150-200 hours Baldurs Gate 1/2/TOB. Characters exist to tell a story, once the game ends then they don't really have a purpose anymore anyway.

 

Its not cheap since it fits in very well with what would actually happen if a handmaiden turned her back on not only her race but her religion. That story was never going to have a happy ending nor should it. 

 

I never said it should have a happy ending, but if they are going to die it should be in-game, not an epilogue slide that lazily says "They died two years later". How would you feel if a movie did that? 

[Deadmac]

This hype comes from the fanbase.

 

"Dragon Age" is an awesome storytelling masterpiece. Please figure out a way to remind everyone that this is a 'dark fantasy' game. "Dragon Age: Inqusition" needs to be advertised differently, so that people know its not about gays and homosexuals. I do not feel included as a hetrosexual player.

 

I love your work.

 

I just think the hype needs to get beyond the alternative lifestyle storytelling.

 

While I do not mind the presence of alternative relationships, I just think they have overshadowed the other aspects of the game.

 

This hype comes from the fan base.

 

And from our perspective our marketing so far as been pretty light.  Mostly teases and stuff more attuned to people already avidly following the game.

 

Not from my perspective. I will just leave it on that note.

[AkiKishi]

I never said it should have a happy ending, but if they are going to die it should be in-game, not an epilogue slide that lazily says "They died two years later". How would you feel if a movie did that? 

 

Movies often do that. I have no problem with it. As long as it ties up the story told by the movie in the movie , what happens after the fact does not really matter. 

[Ianamus]

Movies often do that. I have no problem with it. As long as it ties up the story told by the movie in the movie , what happens after the fact does not really matter. 

 

I don't know of any movies that use a screen of text to kill a main character at the very end of the movie. An epilogue scene where they die, perhaps, but that is different because you are still being shown what happened rather than told. 

[Kingthlayer]

Cassandra, Vivienne and Sera are far from being needy, damsel in distress types. Unless they add a non-companion LI that fits the description, I have the feeling you'll be disappointed

We literally know nothing about Viv and Sera, it's impossible to say what type they are.  Cassandra we know a bit more about, but still impossible to really put her into a type.

[AkiKishi]

I don't know of any movies that use a screen of text to kill a main character at the very end of the movie. An epilogue scene where they die, perhaps, but that is different because you are still being shown what happened rather than told. 

 

Viconia dies, your character goes on to do something unknown. In BG she's one of a few choices and each gets their own epilogue. Whether that makes her a main character or not, that would depend. Its a VERY common thing in games anyway Japanese ones especially like the Suikoden series where each of the 108 stars gets their own epilogue. 

 

As a player my input ends with the end credits, what happens after that. That's upto the writers.

 

 

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[kalasaurus]

"Dragon Age" is an awesome storytelling masterpiece. Please figure out a way to remind everyone that this is a 'dark fantasy' game. "Dragon Age: Inqusition" needs to be advertised differently, so that people know its not about gays and homosexuals. I do not feel included as a hetrosexual player.

 

I love your work.

 

I just think the hype needs to get beyond the alternative lifestyle storytelling.

 

While I do not mind the presence of alternative relationships, I just think they have overshadowed the other aspects of the game.

 

?

 

Heterosexuality hasn't been excluded in the slightest.

[renfrees]

"Dragon Age" is an awesome storytelling masterpiece. Please figure out a way to remind everyone that this is a 'dark fantasy' game. "Dragon Age: Inqusition" needs to be advertised differently, so that people know its not about gays and homosexuals. I do not feel included as a hetrosexual player.

 

I love your work.

 

I just think the hype needs to get beyond the alternative lifestyle storytelling.

 

While I do not mind the presence of alternative relationships, I just think they have overshadowed the other aspects of the game.

It's all on forums, though. Perhaps heterosexual part of community don't feel the need to complain, because they have less reasons to do so? Not that game is targeted at LGB community.

[Ianamus]

"Dragon Age" is an awesome storytelling masterpiece. Please figure out a way to remind everyone that this is a 'dark fantasy' game. "Dragon Age: Inqusition" needs to be advertised differently, so that people know its not about gays and homosexuals. I do not feel included as a hetrosexual player.

 

I love your work.

 

I just think the hype needs to get beyond the alternative lifestyle storytelling.

 

While I do not mind the presence of alternative relationships, I just think they have overshadowed the other aspects of the game.

 

If you want more discussion on the non-romance aspects of Inquisition then start or join a thread about one of Inquisitions other features. Don't come directly into the romance thread and start whining. 

[pdusen]

I don't know of any movies that use a screen of text to kill a main character at the very end of the movie. An epilogue scene where they die, perhaps, but that is different because you are still being shown what happened rather than told. 

 

What do you mean? This is very common in movies, particularly ones based on true stories. They'll go over what the character did after the end of the movie, often including their death.

[karushna5]

"Dragon Age" is an awesome storytelling masterpiece. Please figure out a way to remind everyone that this is a 'dark fantasy' game. "Dragon Age: Inqusition" needs to be advertised differently, so that people know its not about gays and homosexuals. I do not feel included as a hetrosexual player. I love your work. I just htink the hype is surounding the wrong game mechanic.

And in not one of their Trailers or on their website is there any mention of homosexuality. The fact is many people who play dragon age are not heterosexual and this is one of the few games they can play not heterosexual. Also, there is incredibly low information about those other mechanics, but on other places on this forum there are discussions about class specializations, plot, characters, gameplay.

 

What I am getting from your message is that Bioware needs to give out a warning to all the straight people saying... "ignore our LGBT fans, they get hyped up, but our games are not about them(not like the games have ever been about romance), absolutely not. The trailers that dont mention homosexuality, the main site with all the picture of characters and a map doesnt mention homosexuality, but we need to make extra sure you know this game isnt about homosexuality"

 

And how are you not included as a heterosexual? Will there be heterosexual romances? yes. Is this as hyped because all games with a romance theme dont already have straight romance? No. You are saying you dont feel included unless Bioware comes out and denies apart of their fanbase even though they have never shown major footage in any trailer of homosexuality whatsoever? This is the romance thread, we talk about gay/straight/ and Bi romances, if you dont like it make a new thread about something else.

[jlb524]

Don't worry, I'm sure we'll see lots of heterosexual stuff with E3.

 

Lots of Male!Inquis/Cassandra probably.

 

It will be oooookay.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Since the announcement of "Dragon Age: Inqusition", the majority of the hype has been around homosexuality, lesbian, and gay relationships. As a result of overemphasising the hemosexual aspects of "Dragon Age: Inqusition", BioWare has inadvertantly caused it to overshadow the game's other attributes.

 

Beyond confirming that they will exist, BioWare have said nothing at all about homosexual relationships in DA:I. All they've said about the romances so far is this:

 

1) They exist.

 

2) Cassandra and Cullen are two of the options.

 

3) There are straight, gay and bisexual characters in the game. (We are all inferring from this that there will be straight, gay and bisexual characters available to romance. I think it's a reasonable inference.)

 

That's literally all the devs have said. Personally, I wish they would talk a little more about the romances, but then, I really just want to know if I'm right about the 2/2/2 division and if Varric is an option .

[CronoDragoon]

I never said it should have a happy ending, but if they are going to die it should be in-game, not an epilogue slide that lazily says "They died two years later". How would you feel if a movie did that? 

 

That's not what the slide says though. It's not lazy writing at all. It's elegant and well-written.

 

If you have Viconia die in-game then this story is completely different. She doesn't raise her son to understand drow culture. She doesn't change as a person to love her son.

 

I ask this in earnestness: have you played BG2? It may be difficult to understand why this epilogue slide works so well with Viconia if you haven't experienced the content. I mean, reading that slide after Viconia gets angry at you for not leaving her to become a god at the end of the game? That's something a single scene can't convey properly.

[Deadmac]

...the fact is many people who play dragon age are not heterosexual...

 

I guess its official!

 

"Dragon Age: Inquisition" is a game exclusively made for homosexuals; therefore, hetrosexuals do not need to apply. "Dragon Age: Origins" was a great game. I think its a shame that it no longer speaks to everyone. I will just move onto another game.

[kalasaurus]

I guess its official.

 

"Dragon Age: Inquisition" is a homosexual only game; therefore, hetrosexuals do not need to apply. "Dragon Age: Origins" was a great game. I think its a shame that it no longer speaks to everyone. I will just move onto another game.

 

Are you joking?  By including one group, another is instantly excluded?  Newsflash: acknowledging that gay people exist doesn't infringe upon the rights of straight people. 

[Andraste_Reborn]

I guess its official.

 

"Dragon Age: Inquisition" is a homosexual only game; therefore, hetrosexuals do not need to apply.

 

If this means I need to become a lesbian to play the game, well, I guess I am prepared to make that sacrifice. I'm not sure my boyfriend will understand, though.

 

... I need to let my lesbian friends know so they can get that toaster.