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That said, gamers like him do make me worried that when it hits mainstream, that is all people will talk about being a gay agenda game or whatever. I have seen it elsewhere, but I am just really worried that it may effect Bioware negatively.
Why would this game be any different from their other games that have s/s romance content?
They've been adding it for like 10 years now.
Made me genuinely laugh. I can just imagine XD
That said, gamers like him do make me worried that when it hits mainstream, that is all people will talk about being a gay agenda game or whatever. I have seen it elsewhere, but I am just really worried that it may effect Bioware negatively.
I think a few people will latch on to that argument. However, I don't think it will be the majority. Also consider the forums are much more focal and focus on stuff like this. The majority of people who play the game don't visit the forums. Add to that when BW does market the game it will be than likely be with a male inquisitor and if there is any sort of LI shown in the trailers, I can almost guarantee that it will be a woman. So while, yes BW is more inclusive, I don't think a few focal groups will ruin everything.
We literally know nothing about Viv and Sera, it's impossible to say what type they are. Cassandra we know a bit more about, but still impossible to really put her into a type.
Vivienne is called "Madame de Fer". I doubt it was a random title.
From the wiki: "As a cunning participant in Orlesian politics, Vivienne doesn't let anyone stand in the way of her goals. The important thing to her is that she is left standing at the end of her struggle for order."
From the Bioware blog: "Vivienne can rip her opponents apart verbally, politically, socially—and make ice seem like the gentlest option"
She's ruthless and strong, I don't think there's any doubt about that.
As for Sera, we know little of her. This is from the survey: "Sera is young, frenetic, and a brat through and through." It doesn't say much about her strength of character. I doubt she'll be a damsel though. Bioware has heard too many complaints about "weak and needy portrayals of women".
Not sure about that. But the impression I get from reading the boards is people are more concerned about virtual waifu's and inclusion than they are about the game.
While it's not Bioware directly, these are their boards for anyone looking at DA:I.
I absolutely agree! Why can't those pesky social justice fanatics just check their brains at the door?
We manage to.
The fact is many people who play dragon age are not heterosexual
Many is the wrong word here. Females and homosexuals don't make the majority of games, no matter how much they think they do. Just because they're very loud online doesn't make them a majority. Straight male gamers of all ages will always be the majority, by quite a lot.
Also, you do kinda have to wonder what exactly he's expecting Bioware to do to 'shake the hype'. Sponsor Orson Scott Card?
No, they did that already.
I guess its official!
"Dragon Age: Inquisition" is a game exclusively made for homosexuals; therefore, hetrosexuals do not need to apply. "Dragon Age: Origins" was a great game. I think its a shame that it no longer speaks to everyone. I will just move onto another game.
I absolutely agree! Why can't those pesky social justice fanatics just check their brains at the door?
We manage to.
As long as it conforms to the integrity of the setting I don't care what goes in. But if they start skewing things to mirror modern values, that bothers me.
if there are 50/50 split of men/women in Thedas, then general populace should reflect that, unless there are in game reasons. The same goes with every aspect of the game. The whole Waifu thing, that depends on the intensity of the people some are just disturbing.
Many is the wrong word here. Females and homosexuals don't make the majority of games, no matter how much they think they do. Just because they're very loud online doesn't make them a majority. Straight male gamers of all ages will always be the majority, by quite a lot.
Uh-oh.
Somebody should tell the Entertainment Software Association, then: http://www.theesa.co.../gameplayer.asp
We wouldn't want them to spread such blatant misinformation. Women might start thinking that their opinions matter.
I'm trying to wrap my head around this. Biowares stance as an inclusive developer means heterosexuals arent allowed to play? Really? Thats what you got from the forums?
Almost all biowares games have included at the very least bisexual characters alongside their straight ones- what makes inquisition any 'worse' for you?
At no point has Bioware stated that their games are only for LGBT players.
The inclusion of a lovely yet underrepresented part of their fanbase should do nothing to affect your enjoyment of the game.
If it truly offends you to see inclusivity, then I'm afraid you may be in the wrong place.
I think he's trolling. I've never seen anyone define himself as an "alpha male" seriously, outside of high school junior classes and the misc of the bodybuilding.com forums 
"Dragon Age" is an awesome storytelling masterpiece. Please figure out a way to remind everyone that this is a 'dark fantasy' game. "Dragon Age: Inqusition" needs to be advertised differently, so that people know its not about gays and homosexuals. I do not feel included as a hetrosexual player.
A couple points on the go:
1. We haven't seen any real marketing to speak of. Everything we've been shown up to this point is fairly generic.
2. Dragon Age isn't and has never been 'about gays and homosexuals; if it was, I'm willing to bet it wouldn't be approved by the suits at EA.
Romance is but one aspect of an otherwise complex game. If you don't feel 'included' as a heterosexual male just because of ONE game, then what does that say about those that are neither male nor heterosexual (or any combination of the two) in this largely male-centric industry?
Perspective is a decent thing to have. This isn't a contest or an agenda being shoved down anyone's throat. If you must make it so, then you might as well take it elsewhere because this isn't the place for it.
That reminds me of a thread I read where someone was b*tching about the ONE FemShep trailer for ME3 because it was being "shoved down his throat".
Yeah it's just one trailer. They get so catered too that the slightest hint of devs daring to try to reach out to anyone else is met with rage and pandering cries.
I think it speaks volumes that detractors of equal representation are always so concerned about having something jammed down their throats.
LMAO
In an attempt to get things back on track.
People who played Baldurs Gate II and Jade Empire do you think the romances are too easy now and have just become player fantasy fodder?
I think he's trolling. I've never seen anyone define himself as an "alpha male" seriously, outside of high school junior classes and the misc of the bodybuilding.com forums
He should know better. Announcing your alpha status just causes gay men to swarm on you like locusts.
Vivienne is called "Madame de Fer". I doubt it was a random title.
From the wiki: "As a cunning participant in Orlesian politics, Vivienne doesn't let anyone stand in the way of her goals. The important thing to her is that she is left standing at the end of her struggle for order."
From the Bioware blog: "Vivienne can rip her opponents apart verbally, politically, socially—and make ice seem like the gentlest option"
She's ruthless and strong, I don't think there's any doubt about that.
As for Sera, we know little of her. This is from the survey: "Sera is young, frenetic, and a brat through and through." It doesn't say much about her strength of character. I doubt she'll be a damsel though. Bioware has heard too many complaints about "weak and needy portrayals of women".
Even though I'm Canadian I don't speak french and I don't know what Madame de Fer means.
As for that write up, so Vivienne has a sharp tongue, which is no match for a sharp blade. She might be Ruthless and good at the Game, Cersei Lannister is also someone who is ruthless and good at the game. It doesn't make either of them strong.
Plus a two line write up should make the character good, it still doesn't really say much about them.
The line about Sera makes me think about kids I knew growing up who get themselves into trouble but can't get out of it without help. Perfect for a "damsel in distress" tbh.
Though I do agree that I doubt we'll be seeing a damsel in distress, my point was that we don't know enough about these characters to assume they won't be.
If anything the "damsel in distress" will be Cole.
In an attempt to get things back on track.
People who played Baldurs Gate II and Jade Empire do you think the romances are too easy now and have just become player fantasy fodder?
They were hard in BG2/JE?
He should know better. Announcing your alpha status just causes gay men to swarm on you like locusts.
Don't scare him!
Many is the wrong word here. Females and homosexuals don't make the majority of games, no matter how much they think they do. Just because they're very loud online doesn't make them a majority. Straight male gamers of all ages will always be the majority, by quite a lot.
You are right, we dont make the games, but we certainly count as "many" when it comes to being a player Not most, majority, all, or anything like that. Many. And always is also a pretty strange staement women gamers are increasing every year and while we will probably never be the majority we are quickly becoming as important.
Regardless, no one has said, women only, straight people only, it is the idea that people other than them being even included is so terrible. People act like they are being invaded by an evil army. When it comes to women? play a man. When it comes to LGBT be with a girl available to you. I can understand blunders and misunderstandings. But why are people so threatened that someone other than them might enjoy something?
He should know better. Announcing your alpha status just causes gay men to swarm on you like locusts.
And evil feminists to pester you and pretend to hate you, while they're obviously attracted to your godly amount of testosterone.
Even though I'm Canadian I don't speak french and I don't know what Madame de Fer means.
As for that write up, so Vivienne has a sharp tongue, which is no match for a sharp blade. She might be Ruthless and good at the Game, Cersei Lannister is also someone who is ruthless and good at the game. It doesn't make either of them strong.
Plus a two line write up should make the character good, it still doesn't really say much about them.
The line about Sera makes me think about kids I knew growing up who get themselves into trouble but can't get out of it without help. Perfect for a "damsel in distress" tbh.
Though I do agree that I doubt we'll be seeing a damsel in distress, my point was that we don't know enough about these characters to assume they won't be.
If anything the "damsel in distress" will be Cole.
It means "Lady of Iron".
Finding yourself in a situation that requires assistance doesn't make you a damsel. Otherwise, the Warden, Riordan and Sten would be damsels too. 
A damsel in distress is someone that can't handle herself and constantly needs to be rescued, so much it has become a cliché. He said his LI had to be "needy". Damsels aren't hated because they can't fight, they're hated because they're only defined by their love for the main character. They're usually weak, only there to swoon over the male hero. Which I got the impression was what the poster wanted, although I was the one to use the word "damsel".
They were hard in BG2/JE?
Mostly annoying and making sure you didn't pick the jerk or too fast options.
Viconia was more annoying to romance though but that wasn't something that I found in her favor.
Don't scare him!
He should be scared! We should all be scared!
Many is the wrong word here. Females and homosexuals don't make the majority of games, no matter how much they think they do. Just because they're very loud online doesn't make them a majority. Straight male gamers of all ages will always be the majority, by quite a lot.
I think you have confused the word "many" with the word "majority". No one has claimed that the majority of players are females and/or LGBT individuals. The poster claimed that many (meaning 'a large number of') people who play are females and/or LGBT individuals. Many is, of course, subjective. However, I think it's fair to say that many of the fans of Bioware are, in fact, females and/or LGBT individuals, precisely because of Bioware's inclusive policies.
*Enters the romance-thread for the first time, Sees a poster equalizing the inclutions of non-straight people to the complete marginalization of heterosexuals and that Bioware should distance themself from thier LBGTAQ fanbase. Backs away, vowing to never come back*
(liked this for the funny, not for the 'never coming back' part btw 
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Viconia was more annoying to romance though but that wasn't something that I found in her favor.
She was? I didn't have any issues with her romance that I can remember. I know it was a difficult romance in the sense that she played you hot/cold and leaves in the end of SoA...but I didn't think it was hard to get from point A to point B.
I remember having trouble with Jaheira's b/c it was bugged to hell and back.
Aerie's is a bit different b/c sleeping with her in Shadows of Amn ends the romance (but you can sleep with her right away in ToB expansion and INVENTORY BABY happens).
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