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[kalasaurus]

Honestly, the "hype" I've seen for gay romances in DA: I has largely been confined to the discussions/threads about romance (like here) and characters.

[Ryzaki]

Honestly, the "hype" I've seen for gay romances in DA: I has largely been confined to the discussions/threads about romance (like here) and characters.

 

Same.

 

And that's hardly anyone's fault. If someone wants to start up some hype for heterosexual romances they're free to.

[jlb524]

I know "sleeping" with Phaere will also ruin a romance with Aerie

 

This is from personal experience? 

 

I actually liked the Aerie romance in SoA for the most part.  It was cool that she wanted to take things slow.  Cut to ToB (like two weeks later) she's picking out baby names 

 

You can't refuse her offer to sleep with her in ToB w/o ending the romance path (cuz the entire path revolves around dat inventory baby).  The BG romances seemed really linear/scripted b/c the companions initiated all the dialog.

 

One thing I like about the Leliana romance in DA:O is that there are a few ways to start it.  You can be more aggressive and flirt with her from the start.  You can wait for her to make the first move when she comments about your hair.  You can even wait longer than that as there's another opportunity to start it up after the Marjolaine thing is finished.  I prefer something like this to the romances being over-complicated b/c you selected one incorrect reply or being pigeon-holed into one path.

 

 

Oooh it doesn't help that Hawke sounds so cheesy when he says it (or at least Mhawke did. Not sure about fem.)

 

 

The "what about love?" line?

 

I think it's cheesy no matter who says it XD

[Char]

You hit the nail on the head. As one of the developers had said, the fanbase had caused the hype to revolve around homosexuality. "Dragon Age: Inquisition's" advertising should be based upon game mechanics, skills, character customization, storytelling, etc... During the course of the past year, the main theme behind interviews and fan raves have revolved around homosexuality. While I have no problem with the inclusion of gay characters, I wish the hype focused on other game aspects.

Vocal fans, some of those in this thread, have managed to hijack the game's hype.

"Dragon Age: Inquisition" is either a dark fantasy roleplaying game, or its a story about a group of homosexual lovers. Romance is a welcomed aspect of BioWare games. I love BioWare's style of storytelling. I am a massive fan. On the other hand, the alternative romances should not overshadow everythigng else.

I havent seen any discussion in of sexuality in interviews barring the confirmation of set sexualities :/
I find it a little odd that there are prescribed qualities for "hype". There are plenty of people here who are extremely interested in, and excited by, the gameplay, story and combat mechanics. There are also threads for these things.
For me, there are a lot of games with good graphics. There are a lot of games with good combat. There are a lot of games with good story.
There are few games as inclusive as those by bioware. Therefore I think it is perfectly reasonable for people to be excited by these aspects of the game.
I can appreciate it if you think our enthusiasm is misplaced, but just as you are entitled to your opinions, so is everyone else.

Now I'm going to go away and write out a few times "I must not feed the trolls".

[Uncrushable PIGEON]

I don't buy into random survey garbage numbers.  31 years old is the average gamer age but yet the average time people have been gaming is 14 years.  So according to this survey the average person started playing games at 17.  Come on that right is just straight up lawlworthy.  Makes the rest of it a joke.

The thing is that this is an AVERAGE. It takes into consideration people on all points of the spectrum.  In my household 4 out of 5 of us are gamers. Only one of those 4 is male , One has been gaming consistently since the mid 1980's, two have been gaming for at least 10 years, and the last for 6. Also , two of us are more than ten years older than the median.

[Fiery Phoenix]

One thing I like about the Leliana romance in DA:O is that there are a few ways to start it.  You can be more aggressive and flirt with her from the start.  You can wait for her to make the first move when she comments about your hair.  You can even wait longer than that as there's another opportunity to start it up after the Marjolaine thing is finished.  I prefer something like this to the romances being over-complicated b/c you selected one incorrect reply or being pigeon-holed into one path.

I agree with this.

 

But part of me still can't get over the fact that Leliana didn't want my Dalish as her girlfriend because she was too happy with her.

[Ryzaki]

One thing I like about the Leliana romance in DA:O is that there are a few ways to start it.  You can be more aggressive and flirt with her from the start.  You can wait for her to make the first move when she comments about your hair.  You can even wait longer than that as there's another opportunity to start it up after the Marjolaine thing is finished.  I prefer something like this to the romances being over-complicated b/c you selected one incorrect reply or being pigeon-holed into one path.

 

 

 

The "what about love?" line?

 

I think it's cheesy no matter who says it XD

 

 

It was nice how you could have a relationship naturally evolve from friends to lovers in DAO. That was a very nice touch.

 

YES that line rivaled "TIL THE DAY WE DIE." in the Andersmance for sheer godawfulness.

[daveliam]

You hit the nail on the head. As one of the developers had said, the fanbase had caused the hype to revolve around homosexuality. "Dragon Age: Inquisition's" advertising should be based upon game mechanics, skills, character customization, storytelling, etc... During the course of the past year, the main theme behind interviews and fan raves have revolved around homosexuality. While I have no problem with the inclusion of gay characters, I wish the hype focused on other game aspects.

 

Vocal fans, some of those in this thread, have managed to hijack the game's hype.

 

"Dragon Age: Inquisition" is either a dark fantasy roleplaying game, or its a story about a group of homosexual lovers. Romance is a welcomed aspect of BioWare games. I love BioWare's style of storytelling. I am a massive fan. On the other hand, the alternative romances should not overshadow everythigng else.

 

 

...and, that is my point.

 

I managed to tick off a ton of people by using the phrase 'alpha male'.

 

...and, that should be a serious problem for BioWare.

 

We have to move past the 'special' romance aspects of this game.

 

I should not have been burned for asking for strong hetrosexual repationships.

 

Two things:

 

1.)  "Homosexuality has barely been mentioned in any of the promotional features outside of the Bioware panels at LGBT gaming events.  In the "mainstream" promotions, there has been virtually no mention in any direction about sexuality outside of the announcement that there would be a variety of sexualities (including heterosexuality) in the LI's.

 

2.)  People were not "ticked off" because you described yourself as an alpha male.  They were, perhaps, incredulous and/or amused that you would choose an identifier that is not exactly positively received by most people, but not "ticked off".

 

Honestly, the "hype" I've seen for gay romances in DA: I has largely been confined to the discussions/threads about romance (like here) and characters.

 

Exactly.  There has been a ton of talk about combat, setting, storyline, etc.  That's where the majority of the "official" hype has been focused.  Which is totally fine.  The "hype" for LGBT inclusiveness has been pretty much all done virtually.

[Char]

It was nice how you could have a relationship naturally evolve from friends to lovers in DAO. That was a very nice touch.

YES that line rivaled "TIL THE DAY WE DIE." in the Andersmance for sheer godawfulness.

I can't take either of those romances seriously thanks to those lines they did make me cringe.
I loved the gradual build up for Leliana, but most of my wardens romanced Alistair because, well, Alistair.

[Deadmac]

Majority of those who have concerns are most likely not going to read the forums.

[daveliam]

Majority of those who have concerns are most likely not going to read the forums.

 

Have concerns about what?

[AkiKishi]

Majority of those who have concerns are most likely not going to read the forums.

 

Unless you read other forums.

[Wulfram]

I like a bit of rescuing in my romance, personally.  Though preferably the LI rescuing the PC, or have the rescuing go both ways.

[daveliam]

I like a bit of rescuing in my romance, personally.  Though preferably the LI rescuing the PC, or have the rescuing go both ways.

 

I kind of loved the fact that if you lost in Arl Howe's Estate in Denerim, you could opt to be rescued by your companions (including your LI, if it wasn't Alistair).  I thought that this was such a great idea that I purposefully lose against Ser Cauthrien just to get that story line when I replay. 

[Char]

I kind of loved the fact that if you lost in Arl Howe's Estate in Denerim, you could opt to be rescued by your companions (including your LI, if it wasn't Alistair). I thought that this was such a great idea that I purposefully lose against Ser Cauthrien just to get that story line when I replay.

My wardens usually romance Alistair, as I've said, and I always lose on purpose just to either a) show off my wardens awesome skills in getting them out or experience the hilarious rescues. Its one of my favourite quests

[JadePrince]

Isn't it funny how the people who complain most about 'romance' always seem to purposefully seek out those threads specifically marked 'romance'? These forums are huge. There's maybe, MAYBE 4-5 total threads discussing some part of the romance options for DA:I and tens, if not hundreds dedicated to everything else. It's REALLY EASY to avoid these threads if they bother you so much.

 

That said, I have zero sympathy for a straight boy who wants to whine about how ONE GAME out of THOUSANDS isn't pandering ONLY to him (Because lets be real, it's not like DA:I is going to lack for the hetero). There will still be plenty of content for you, poor silly straight boy.

 

However, if DA's queer content scares off people like that, then honestly, I'd say let 'em go. The fanbase will be better off without those kinds of attitudes and there will still be plenty of reasonable, tolerant straight guys left to be this supposed customer majority. Don't think that just because he's straight and male that he represents the attitude of all the straight guy players of DA. I'd hazard a guess that MOST of DA straight male fans won't stage a mass exodus if Bioware themselves hyped the gay content. Some might COMPLAIN, but they aren't likely to leave. 

 

Heck, even THIS guy isn't leaving, even after he promised he would. :/

[Kingthlayer]

If the "average gamer" in 2012 was 31, that means they were 17 in 1995.

 

It's absolutely plausible that someone could start gaming at that age. Explain how it's not.

 

I'm 4 years younger than 31 and started gaming 5 years prior to 95.  Plus every gamer I talk to that is older than me, talks about the NES, the Atari, I never hear anybody say they started gaming with the 64, unless of course they're not part of the Glorious Super Generation. I'm proud to say I still have a working Super Nintendo.  Had a PS2 that stopped working, a 360 that conked out on me, but the Super Nintendo just keeps on chugging even though it was dropped over 10 years ago and has a hole down the side.

 

WAR NINTENDO!!!!!!!!!!

[karushna5]

You hit the nail on the head. As one of the developers had said, the fanbase had caused the hype to revolve around homosexuality. "Dragon Age: Inquisition's" advertising should be based upon game mechanics, skills, character customization, storytelling, etc... During the course of the past year, the main theme behind interviews and fan raves have revolved around homosexuality. While I have no problem with the inclusion of gay characters, I wish the hype focused on other game aspects.

 

Vocal fans, some of those in this thread, have managed to hijack the game's hype.

 

"Dragon Age: Inquisition" is either a dark fantasy roleplaying game, or its a story about a group of homosexual lovers. Romance is a welcomed aspect of BioWare games. I love BioWare's style of storytelling. I am a massive fan. On the other hand, the alternative romances should not overshadow everythigng else.

 

 

...and, that is my point.

 

I managed to tick off a ton of people by using the phrase 'alpha male'.

 

...and, that should be a serious problem for BioWare.

 

We have to move past the 'special' romance aspects of this game.

 

I should not have been burned for asking for strong hetrosexual repationships.

 

 

Unless you have some sort of statistical data, I personally do not think your assumption is based upon truth.

So all the hype is with the fans, so you want the devs to restrict how much we can talk about it on here? Tell us if we dont stop being excited about it they will stop having the feature?

 

You are not the only one on here who is hetero and wants good hetero relationship, many people on this thread are straight and are excited about the straight romances. This we have no issue. Our issue is that you want it at the expense of content we are very rarely given, and when I say that many people who are LGBT and fans of the game(So much so that Bioware was a main event at Gaymers) you hope we get little to no content because we the fans, not the developers but the fans are really really fond of the game so we talk about a feature and because we like it need to be shut down because we like it so much that you feel straight romances are not getting through.

[daveliam]

I'm 4 years younger than 31 and started gaming 5 years prior to 95.  Plus every gamer I talk to that is older than me, talks about the NES, the Atari, I never hear anybody say they started gaming with the 64, unless of course they're not part of the Glorious Super Generation. I'm proud to say I still have a working Super Nintendo.  Had a PS2 that stopped working, a 360 that conked out on me, but the Super Nintendo just keeps on chugging even though it was dropped over 10 years ago and has a hole down the side.

 

WAR NINTENDO!!!!!!!!!!

 

I'm not sure if people understand how averages work out.  You can't tell much without knowing the standard deviation and distribution of the data.  It could also be a reverse bell curve distribution with a ton of players playing for 20+ years and ton of players only playing for a year or two.  That would certainly make sense if you count in "casual" players from social media and smartphones.  I don't see anything questionable about that data unless I have more information to go on.  It's completely possible. 

[SnakeCode]

I'd like it if we had to make the really difficult decision to leave our romance behind to get captured, in order to save ourself and ensure our mission doesn't fail. With our LI asking us to leave them behind so we can live, including an emotional goodbye scene.  Last of the Mohicans style.

 

"I will find you! No matter how long it takes, no matter how far!... I will find you!"

[Farewell]

I'd like it if we had to make the really difficult decision to leave our romance behind to get captured, in order to save ourself and ensure our mission doesn't fail. With our LI asking us to leave them behind so we can live, including an emotional goodbye scene.  Last of the Mohicans style.

 

"I will find you! No matter how long it takes, no matter how far!... I will find you!"

Would there be a reunion?

[SnakeCode]

Would there be a reunion?

Yeah. In LotM the main character ends up rescuing his LI.

[Farewell]

Yeah. In LotM the main character ends up rescuing his LI.

I haven't seen that movie. But yes that would be lovely.

[SnakeCode]

I haven't seen that movie. But yes that would be lovely.

It's such a good film, I highly recommend it. Here's the scene i'm talking about.

 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

You missed the point by a mile. Go back a read my posts. BioWare has to shake the hype, which was created by the fanbase. If the fans are sending out the wrong message, BioWare needs to shift gears rather quickly.

Why? I mean the hype about homosexual and bisexual relationships, which is nowhere as widespread as you think it is by the way, helps improve sales to those customers who want that. Meanwhile the heterosexual community still gets heterosexual romances and thus will garner more sales from them as well. It's simple business practice to appeal to as wide an audience as possible.