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#8926
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We sort of hit a middle ground in DAI. There are the random questions you can ask the party member, similar to DAO, and we're down to one plot again (which is part of their development arc). They have the full conversations which are primarily gated by event, as mentioned (though these depend on the player seeking them out, usually-- no more missions demanding you seek the party member out). You still cannot talk to them anywhere in the world (there's not even the option to click on them outside of "safe" areas), but there are certain conversations that can initiate elsewhere, depending on whether they're present.

 

From Gaider in this thread on the old BSN. I really hope they've stuck with this, because it sounds perfect to me and will strike a nice balance between the previous two games. He also mentioned something about most dialogue not being gated by approval level (woo!).



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Ah, so perhaps not open world? I'm very pleased at this prospect :-D Wahoo! Cheers for this!!

I assumed "not every location" mainly meant you can't be all making out during battle or like right in front of the orlesian empress when she's trying to give you missions.


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I assumed "not every location" mainly meant you can't be all making out during battle or like right in front of the orlesian empress when she's trying to give you missions.

 

This is good. No more super serious awkward accidental romantic conversations when you accidentally click on your LI in the middle of a quest, hahaha...


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#8929
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I would like progressive, not to quick and act like nothing happened after the peak as mass effect kinda seems.

The kiss or hug would be nice to have after the peak. Some romances just seem dead or no longer a LI after a peak till something important happens. Prefer way dragon age does over mass effect did. I dont want it to end as it was like a small quest or something similar.

Edit: I would find it ackward to be talking to someone and right in the middle talk to an LI or kiss them.

Came back cause felt bad for being rude earlier sorry.

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This is good. No more super serious awkward accidental romantic conversations when you accidentally click on your LI in the middle of a quest, hahaha...

 

Make out with blood on face. METAL.


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#8931
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As one of the developers had said, the fanbase had caused the hype to revolve around homosexuality. "Dragon Age: Inquisition's" advertising should be based upon game mechanics, skills, character customization, storytelling, etc... During the course of the past year, the main theme behind interviews and fan raves have revolved around homosexuality. While I have no problem with the inclusion of gay characters, I wish the hype focused on other game aspects.

 

At this point you're taking my words out of context.

 

You made the claim that we've been hyping homosexual content more than anything else.  The reality is we haven't really been hyping very much at all.  You do not get to then take your original error and leverage the suggestion that I made that any hype you see is coming from the fanbase, and turn it around for your own end.

 

Right now fans are mostly talking about romances because that's something they can speculate about because they have an idea who the characters are.  By the very nature this content will bias itself to including homosexual/bisexual discussion because that's where it's relevant.  It won't come up during discussion about combat mechanics, or areas to explore.

 

 

If you feel the game doesn't cater to you, then you'll either remain feeling left out or we'll do something in the several months between now and release to convince you otherwise.

 

Remember how you feel, however, because it's how marginalized groups feel all the time.  So now you know how it feels, so you can understand when the omissions come up in other games that don't feature as much non-heterosexual content.

 

 

Until BioWare releases more about the game, I think the problem will continue to exist.

 

I don't consider it a problem.  We've a long time to go before release.  Heck, our marketing push probably won't even have really started until E3 and beyond.


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Make out with blood on face. METAL.

 

Okay, see THAT I'm okay with. >_> *cough*



#8933
Allan Schumacher

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Removed a lot of posts as I got caught up.

 

I do not believe that anyone has any outrage towards people that are heterosexual.  I believe this because I'm heterosexual and I haven't seen anything that could be construed as disliking me or my taste in games because I'm heterosexual.

 

 

Discussions about what is or is not creepy in flirting should be taken to PMs.  Note that PMs support multiple people, so you can all include each other in the thread.

 

 

Those that have turned the thread back on topic may treat themselves to a donut.


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Ninja Allan! :bandit:
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#8935
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Yay donuts! I ran out of likes. Like yours Allan.

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Sexuality this, sexuality that. Ugh, don't people have better things to do rather than arguing over fictional characters' sex life?
Like, maybe general nonsexrelated romance moments? Who is potentially a LI, how can they shake the plot, how different will be romance/friendship paths?

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Sexuality this, sexuality that. Ugh, don't people have better things to do rather than arguing over fictional characters' sex life?
Like, maybe general nonsexrelated romance moments? Who is potentially a LI, how can they shake the plot, how different will be romance/friendship paths?

 

...what? Sexuality is not the same thing as sex or 'sex lives'. What are you even trying to say? Talking about gay romances is not the same as talking about sex. What are you even mad about?


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#8938
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Ballroom dancing has a thread. Im going to love that. If there is any other moments to help garnish LIs moments I'm very much for that. More immersion is never bad I think less it becomes a dating rpg thing then it went overboard some. :)

Friendship development wouldnt be something I'd talk about in romance thread, myself.
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#8939
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By Queen Aimo

 

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A bit of a delayed response on my part (after that past derailment), but this image made me think of Beauty and the Beast  ^_^


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A bit of a delayed response on my part (after that past derailment), but this image made me think of Beauty and the Beast  ^_^

Oh my gosh, you're right.  :o


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...what? Sexuality is not the same thing as sex or 'sex lives'. What are you even trying to say? Talking about gay romances is not the same as talking about sex. What are you even mad about?

I'm really sick of people talking nonstop and causing fan wars over character' sexualities like their lives depend on it and as a result everyone turns angry or bitter
Where's some basic politeness, guys?
Romance is not all about sex and genitalias, you know. Lots of romantic elements don't depend on those. And usually discussing these elements don't turn a thread into a bloody battlefield

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And usually discussing these elements don't turn a thread into a bloody battlefield

 

You weren't even in the battle. You've showed up late, after everyone is already dead, and started complaining about the smell.


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#8943
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Okay! Let's move hastily AWAY from ninety percent of the current debates and start talking about romances....
 
So. I was thinking...about pacing and timing of the romances.
 
Do you want something you can control the pace of? (Origins, for the most part, could be triggered fairly early/after their quest) Or more bound to game-progression like DA2? Or a mix?
 
I wonder how the flow will be...thoughts?


Preferred the staggered da2 approach personally.

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I'm really sick of people talking nonstop and causing fan wars over character' sexualities like their lives depend on it and as a result everyone turns angry or bitter
Where's some basic politeness, guys?
Romance is not all about sex and genitalias, you know. Lots of romantic elements don't depend on those. And usually discussing these elements don't turn a thread into a bloody battlefield

 

...no one is talking about sex and genitals. What the heck are you on about? o_O

 

EDIT: Anyway, we've already moved on and we're done arguing with the one person who was causing tension. Now we're talking about the pacing of the romances and how we'd like them to play out. 

 

I'm one of those people who will definitely be disappointed if the ballroom scene/plot doesn't offer a chance to dance with our LI. Or at least crash the party with them. :)



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Okay! Let's move hastily AWAY from ninety percent of the current debates and start talking about romances....

 

So. I was thinking...about pacing and timing of the romances.

 

Do you want something you can control the pace of? (Origins, for the most part, could be triggered fairly early/after their quest) Or more bound to game-progression like DA2? Or a mix?

 

I wonder how the flow will be...thoughts?

a mix would be cute. A particular mayor event may unlock a certain stage of the romance (sickening romantic mode ON: an important ball for example. many thing may happen when a character have to dress elegant  :wub: -sickening romantic mode OFF) but I'd prefer if is not mandatory. I liked the DAO approach where the player can advance the romance path when he/she desire and feel is better for the character she/he is playng.

I always start the romances very late in DAO, so I can have the feeling the characters have learned to know each others. (well, beside Leliana ninjamance  :mellow: )



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Ballroom dancing has a thread. Im going to love that. If there is any other moments to help garnish LIs moments I'm very much for that. More immersion is never bad I think less it becomes a dating rpg thing then it went overboard some. :)

Friendship development wouldnt be something I'd talk about in romance thread, myself.

 

If there is a ballroom dance I hope there are race specific reactions. Cass dancing with a qunari, for example, will be a pretty unmissable sight for everyone. 



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If there is a ballroom dance I hope there are race specific reactions. Cass dancing with a qunari, for example, will be a pretty unmissable sight for everyone.

Dwarf!lady!Inquisitor dancing with Iron Bull would be unforgettable sight

#8948
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Speaking of; is it just me, or did that version of the human inquisitor look strangely like Sebastian?

 

Because it's Sebastian, not dudequizzy.



#8949
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Because it's Sebastian, not dudequizzy.

 

As I have since found out.

 

Caught me off guard, given Sebastian's celibacy. Honestly, I don't think I've ever seen any DA smut with him in it, which surprises me upon reflection.



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Okay! Let's move hastily AWAY from ninety percent of the current debates and start talking about romances....

 

So. I was thinking...about pacing and timing of the romances.

 

Do you want something you can control the pace of? (Origins, for the most part, could be triggered fairly early/after their quest) Or more bound to game-progression like DA2? Or a mix?

 

I wonder how the flow will be...thoughts?

 

I guess I want some kind of mix because I don't want to control the pace of the romance because if it's possible for me to access all the romantic content at once then I will do it. I just cant' help it. But if the romance is too bound by the events of the game then there is a risk that you will lost romantic content if you haven't recruited the LI for example or you haven't decided who you will be having a romance with and you do that decision too late. I guess best for me would be something that like you could get new dialogue options after you have completed one mission and then you would have to do another mission before you could access another set of dialogue options and if you don't speak with your LI between the missions then the dialogue options wouldn't be chained.