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[Al Foley]

10 rivalry points...isn't that much.

 

Fenris can get a max of 25 when recruited by a mage.

 

There's several +15 gains.

 

Merrill will have her friendship/rivalry score reversed if refuse to give her the knife. (I.E. If she's at 80 friendship you'll pretty much get 160 rivalry to push her to 80 rivalry. Only time this doesn't happen is if she's maxed).

Uh...ok then...I had...0 idea.  I think I have only seen one +25 rivalry in my entire play throughs.

 

To me, complaining about Anders' rivalry gain smacks a bit of "This character didn't react the way I wanted him to react!" Personally, I LIKE that the companions each have their own particular 'buttons'. Maybe Anders is sensitive to rejection. Merrill hated you for not giving her the knife, but noone is complaining about her massive rivalry gain that happens even though you're making choices that are arguably for her own good. When I played DAO, I hated that Morrigan lost approval points every time I was even remotely nice to someone. But instead of calling it a bad design decision, I just chose to leave her at camp and make up those points in other ways.

 

Maybe they didn't give Hawke enough variety in dialogue options, I don't know. I know I made it out of that conversation without either romancing him or pissing him off on my first try, so, I guess your mileage may vary.

 

Personally I hope that DA:I has companions who are very individual in terms of their likes and dislikes and I hope they don't all just default to thinking you're the cat's meow, even if you say or do things that upset them. If you do something they don't like, I expect approval losses (or whatever system they've built for the new game).

Yeah, sure, that is exactly it.   I want to be Anders's friend in this playthrough and to have him get all pissy, after we had just met, because I would not engage in flirting behavior with him strikes me as being...odd.  That's all. 

[Giggles_Manically]

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1- I only posted it because it was related to the current discussion.

2- I dont care about being flirted with by a male NPC

3- If the comic offends you I apologize, but please do not go jumping to conclusions 

 

Added to that I played DA2 more than 12 times and romanced Anders both as a friend/rival so yes I fully understand the mechanics at work.

One day I will post something that does not cause someone to assume I am being serious.

[Hellion Rex]

Maker preserve us...

 

The Bara Warden by Queen Aimo

 

I am linking because it's NSFW. Please do not copy and paste into the forums.

[Hellion Rex]

Scribbles Effect by the lovely Psdo!

 

[Giggles_Manically]

Both of those are awesome pieces of fanart.

[Allan Schumacher]

Scribbles Effect by the lovely Rinji!

 

 

Actually by PSDO (as shown in the picture). Although Rinji does nice art too

[Hellion Rex]

Actually by PSDO (as shown in the picture). Although Rinji does nice art too

Whoops. I pulled it from Rinji's Tumblr, where she must have reblogged it from Psdo.

[Allan Schumacher]

Whoops. I pulled it from Rinji's Tumblr, where she must have reblogged it from Psdo.

 

Yeah that is most likely the case. I can understand the mistake,

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

allan to the rescue! (<is psdo)

[Hellion Rex]

I swear, that's like the fifth time I've done that. Me sorry!

[JohnstonMR]

The lack of more diverse responses IS a very valid concern.

 

That Anders (or any other character) may feel miffed (regardless of the response) isn't something that really bothers me all that much though.

 

The thing that bothers me about the reaction to Anders' miffed-ness is that the same people who complain about it are largely the folks who complain about how characters shouldn't act in ways that aren't consistent with their established personality.  

So Anders got upset that he got turned down.  Is that so unrealistic that people had to complain about it?  It's not like turning him down meant he wouldn't join your party, so what, exactly, was the big deal?  The argument that it was because it maneuvered players into an "akward situation" seems disingenuous to me. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Scribbles Effect by the lovely Psdo!

 

                   out of 10!

[Grieving Natashina]

1- I only posted it because it was related to the current discussion.

2- I dont care about being flirted with by a male NPC

3- If the comic offends you I apologize, but please do not go jumping to conclusions 

 

Added to that I played DA2 more than 12 times and romanced Anders both as a friend/rival so yes I fully understand the mechanics at work.

One day I will post something that does not cause someone to assume I am being serious.

I apologize for being a little sensitive about the comic, but I've seen that put up several times before, mainly by posters using it to trash Anders and his flirting with a guy.  The comic only offends me because it's been fueling a fire among posters about how you "must" flirt with Anders otherwise he'll hate you forever and ever.  

 

Perhaps a caption next time in order to explain your intent would help.  I also apologize that it took me a bit to get back to you.  I'm playing ME2 for the first time and knocking out a ton of sidequests I collected.  

[ladyofpayne]

I remember they are talking about romance and enemy at PAX East. Please can somebody show me this word? I need to inderstand what they mean- emeny, rival or villian?

[aTigerslunch]

I remember they are talking about romance and enemy at PAX East. Please can somebody show me this word? I need to inderstand what they mean- emeny, rival or villian?

Enemy as someone who tries to stop or kill you or opposes. Someone that usually is killed, demons in DA:I

Rival is someone that tries to out do you, not necessarily means out to kill in alot of situations.

Villians could be almost like an enemy type, but more of the fact they have their own goals.

Rivalmance, means both romantic and try to out do each other but may not want death of the partner.

[Chari]

Someone somewhere mentioned somewhen that somehow we will be able to romance somewhat enemy/antagonist

Doesn't seem realistic but would be some fun

[Former_Fiend]

As I recall, the statement(which may have been a "this isn't going to happen" statement, don't remember) was that some of the romances with the companions would be "antagonistic". Wasn't really elaborated upon; could be talking about simple belligerent sexual tension, or full on "I hate this person, but damn, they've got a nice body". 

 

Or anything in between.

[aTigerslunch]

I know it was asked if possible to romance the antagonist or villian. Im not sure Bioware will do such, no idea. Edit: I was one of those posters about antagonistmance. I wasnt specific I think like I'm here in this post.

But I do know a couple choice games that have that, where you can romance the rival/antagonist/villian.

Choice of Games LLC, game called Slammed and one I'm writing to add to their library isnt named yet. These are choices/role-playing book formats, I actually know another I cant name as of yet. Also, their romances for most of the stories are gay/lesbian/straight, player sexual.

Beyond these I'm not so sure, maybe jrpg have some but I dont mess with too many of those.

I hope it wasnt wrong to write but they may help pass time for someone till October.

[aTigerslunch]

Hate my phone sometimes.....double post auto correct and when I find I need to edit it takes double time to fix issues.

[ladyofpayne]

Enemy as someone who tries to stop or kill you or opposes. Someone that usually is killed, demons in DA:I

Rival is someone that tries to out do you, not necessarily means out to kill in alot of situations.

Villians could be almost like an enemy type, but more of the fact they have their own goals.

Rivalmance, means both romantic and try to out do each other but may not want death of the partner.

Thank you. But i've forrgotten what developers said at PAX East about it. Damn't!

[Giggles_Manically]

I apologize for being a little sensitive about the comic, but I've seen that put up several times before, mainly by posters using it to trash Anders and his flirting with a guy.  The comic only offends me because it's been fueling a fire among posters about how you "must" flirt with Anders otherwise he'll hate you forever and ever.  

 

Perhaps a caption next time in order to explain your intent would help.  I also apologize that it took me a bit to get back to you.  I'm playing ME2 for the first time and knocking out a ton of sidequests I collected.  

Its no problem really.

 

Perhaps I should have said "This was relevant".

 

People are just really silly about the whole thing tbqh in regards to being flirted with.

[Hellion Rex]

 

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[jlb524]

niiiiiice

[kalasaurus]

Vivienne's so beautiful  

[WildOrchid]

*cries*

She's amazing. And so is the art.