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[daveliam]

The arguement for romance is as DLC is quite straightforward. People who want romances obviously want deep content. Romances as they are , are not that. No romance in a Bioware game has the impact of a canon romance in other games. 

At the same time people who don't give a rats about romances don't want Bioware spending time on them. DLC gives both sides what they want most.

 

I don't think that separating the romance content and charging extra money for it is giving both sides what they want most.  At all. 

[Ryzaki]

Or the corruption of champions. But I'd actually, probably be more likely to romance him if he turned out to be a girl.

Hell trying to not gender bend in that game is a work of art.

 

I actually wouldn't mind romance DLC as long as it was all romance content period. And of course it'd have to be then worth the DLC asking price I.E a lot more content than the romances have now.

[Hellion Rex]

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[AkiKishi]

That is an entirely subjective argument. Heck, I think BioWare certainly has some better romances than other games out there.

 

At the same time, for some, the issue is that their romantic inclinations are NEVER represented in "canon romances" from other games.

 

That's the subjective part.

 

Look at it like this, you want to romance character X you buy the DLC. You don't want to romance character X you don't buy the DLC. Bioware is then free to focus on game content that everyone will play (like more/better quests) while you get a game more in line with a romance sim if you buy the DLC.

 

Regardless of what impression the forums may give less people finish the romances or even start them than people probably think. 

[Mockingword]

The arguement for romance is as DLC is quite straightforward. People who want romances obviously want deep content. Romances as they are , are not that. No romance in a Bioware game has the impact of a canon romance in other games. 

At the same time people who don't give a rats about romances don't want Bioware spending time on them. DLC gives both sides what they want most.

Lol. This isn't a straightforward argument. It's bald-faced assumptions and unsubstantiated declarations.

 

I want romance content, but I don't want it to be "deep", I'm perfectly happy with the level of "depth" present in DA2. What does "deep" even mean in this context?

 

I have yet to see a single canon romance in a video game that was better-developed than the optional ones that BioWare provides. If anything, I think the vast majority are substantially worse. In the world of video games, "love interest" is just code for "thing the bad guy stole from you".

 

If people really didn't "give a rats" about romance, they just wouldn't talk about it. The fact that they incessantly complain about its presence proves that they do care about it very much. They care so much that they can't stand its inclusion in the game, and they have to belittle everyone who enjoys it.

[Mockingword]

That's the subjective part.

 

Look at it like this, you want to romance character X you buy the DLC. You don't want to romance character X you don't buy the DLC. Bioware is then free to focus on game content that everyone will play (like more/better quests) while you get a game more in line with a romance sim if you buy the DLC.

 

Regardless of what impression the forums may give less people finish the romances or even start them than people probably think. 

And now you assume that people who like the romance content enjoy it because it's similar to a "romance sim".

 

Clearly, you've never played one.

[AkiKishi]

Lol. This isn't a straightforward argument. It's bald-faced assumptions and unsubstantiated declarations.

 

I want romance content, but I don't want it to be "deep", I'm perfectly happy with the level of "depth" present in DA2. What does "deep" even mean in this context?

 

I have yet to see a single canon romance in a video game that was better-developed than the optional ones that BioWare provides. If anything, I think the vast majority are substantially worse. In the world of video games, "love interest" is just code for "thing the bad guy stole from you".

 

If people really didn't "give a rats" about romance, they just wouldn't talk about it. The fact that they incessantly complain about its presence proves that they do care about it very much. They care so much that they can't stand its inclusion in the game, and they have to belittle everyone who enjoys it.

 

I do enjoy how you read something then make up your mind it says something else then have a rant. That's a special kind of talent there.

[hotdogbsg]

Old and the new

 

[daveliam]

That's the subjective part.

 

Look at it like this, you want to romance character X you buy the DLC. You don't want to romance character X you don't buy the DLC. Bioware is then free to focus on game content that everyone will play (like more/better quests) while you get a game more in line with a romance sim if you buy the DLC.

 

Regardless of what impression the forums may give less people finish the romances or even start them than people probably think. 

 

I have yet to see a single person on this board ask for DA: I to be "more in line with a romance sim".  I will never understand why people keep using this argument when there's almost no credibility to it. 

 

Also, I find it interesting that you think that shunting romances off to DLC will 'free [Bioware] to focus on game content that everyone will play".  Especially given that, much like romances, most players don't even finish the actual main questlines. 

 

This suggestion reads to me as more: "I don't like romances that much so I want Bioware to give me less of that and more of what I want", which is fine in itself, but then just say it that way instead of trying to make people think that it's actually going to benefit everyone.  Because it's not.

[Mockingword]

I do enjoy how you read something then make up your mind it says something else then have a rant. That's a special kind of talent there.

I enjoy how you just concoct straight-up lies.

 

I didn't put any words in your mouth, I just refuted the sweeping assumptions you made about me and everyone else who enjoys romance content.

[Hellion Rex]

Sigh, I love CASS!!!!!!

[Grieving Natashina]

Old and the new

 

That's awesome!  Did you put that together?

[AkiKishi]

I have yet to see a single person on this board ask for DA: I to be "more in line with a romance sim".  I will never understand why people keep using this argument when there's almost no credibility to it. 

 

Also, I find it interesting that you think that shunting romances off to DLC will 'free [Bioware] to focus on game content that everyone will play".  Especially given that, much like romances, most players don't even finish the actual main questlines. 

 

This suggestion reads to me as more: "I don't like romances that much so I want Bioware to give me less of that and more of what I want", which is fine in itself, but then just say it that way instead of trying to make people think that it's actually going to benefit everyone.  Because it's not.

 

Thats exactly what people are asking for, they just don't realise it. 

 

Less people finish or even start romances was there a point there ? 

 

The suggestion is exactly what it is. There is nothing to read into it. Did Lelienas song benefit people who wanted to see more Leliana ? I would say it did. 

[hotdogbsg]

That's awesome!  Did you put that together?

 

I did

 

Used the XNALara programme, quite simple to use.

[Ashelsu]

Romance DLC from Bioware, right. I bet it would look something like this.

Spoiler

[Grieving Natashina]

I did

 

Used the XNALara programme, quite simple to use.

Sorry I'm out likes, but that's very awesome!  Here's an honorary one for you.

[wright1978]

The arguement for romance is as DLC is quite straightforward. People who want romances obviously want deep content. Romances as they are , are not that. No romance in a Bioware game has the impact of a canon romance in other games. 

At the same time people who don't give a rats about romances don't want Bioware spending time on them. DLC gives both sides what they want most.

 

What rubbish. The i don't like something so cut it out so that i don't have to pay for it approach. What about all other parts of the game that i don't use that then need to be cut out and those who don't like romances then have to pay for by dlc if they want it. Death of a game by a million slices.

[hotdogbsg]

Sorry I'm out likes, but that's very awesome!  Here's an honorary one for you.

 

For my troubles?

[daveliam]

Thats exactly what people are asking for, they just don't realise it. 

 

Less people finish or even start romances was there a point there ? 

 

The suggestion is exactly what it is. There is nothing to read into it. Did Lelienas song benefit people who wanted to see more Leliana ? I would say it did. 

 

I'm certainly not asking for DA: I to be more like a dating sim.  I enjoy the romance features as they are and I don't want the game to become more about romance nor do I want romance to become an isolated DLC option.  I'm pretty sure I know exactly what I'm asking for.....

 

Your point about how "Bioware can focus on content that everyone will play" is inaccurate since you then stated that it should be more quests.  A large amount of players never even finish the main quests, so "EVERYONE" won't benefit from making more quests instead of romance.  You would because you want more quests and less romance.  Just call it what it is, that's my point.

[Hellion Rex]

Reposting this Cass, cause it's my favorite

 

http://frednought.tumblr.com/

[AkiKishi]

What rubbish. The i don't like something so cut it out so that i don't have to pay for it approach. What about all other parts of the game that i don't use that then need to be cut out and those who don't like romances then have to pay for by dlc if they want it. Death of a game by a million slices.

 

Did you play Witch Hunt and or Leliana's Song ? 

[AkiKishi]

Your point about how "Bioware can focus on content that everyone will play" is inaccurate since you then stated that it should be more quests.  A large amount of players never even finish the main quests, so "EVERYONE" won't benefit from making more quests instead of romance.  You would because you want more quests and less romance.  Just call it what it is, that's my point.

 

If you want to be pedantic content more people will play. 

 

I'd be quite happy to shell out for certain LI's so I could have a Witch Hunt Lelianas Song type episode with them just none in Dragon Age. 

[Grieving Natashina]

For my troubles?

Naturally.  

[TheViper8234]

Sera looks so pretty ,I'm excited for her romance with Inquisitor and Iroh Bull bromance (I hope

[Mockingword]

If you want to be pedantic content more people will play. 

Which people?

 

 

I'd be quite happy to shell out for certain LI's so I could have a Witch Hunt Lelianas Song type episode with them just none in Dragon Age. 

Oh, just you. Thought so.