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[AkiKishi]

Which people?

 

 

Oh, just you. Thought so.

 

Lets see 4.5% of people own the hopelessly romantic trophy on the PS3 and 24.4% of people completed a DA2 romance. 

[daveliam]

Did you play Witch Hunt and or Leliana's Song ? 

 

I seriously don't understand your point here.  Neither Witch Hunt nor Leliana's Song were romance focused.  I played both because they were story-driven DLCs.  I don't see the connection to your point.  Can you clarify?

 

If you want to be pedantic content more people will play. 

 

I'd be quite happy to shell out for certain LI's so I could have a Witch Hunt Lelianas Song type episode with them just none in Dragon Age. 

 

I think I might understand your point about WH and LS now.  Are you saying that the "romance DLC's" would be like them?  If so, then I really don't want that because I don't like the idea of a romance being isolated to a single DLC and that's it.  I like the fact that romances are imbedded into the actual game.  People comment on your romance.  Your LI makes unique comments throughout the game if you are romancing them.  What you are proposing sounds like the content would be limited to the DLC and that's all.

[wright1978]

Did you play Witch Hunt and or Leliana's Song ? 

Played Witch Hunt which picks up a loose end of Morrigan's arc. Haven't played Leilana's song though i understand it is based around her backstory.

Not sure  what relevance that has in regards of the despicable notion of removing romance content from collective process and forcing those who like it to purchase it additionally whilst asking them to support collective process for features other people like and they may not like.

[AkiKishi]

I seriously don't understand your point here.  Neither Witch Hunt nor Leliana's Song were romance focused.  I played both because they were story-driven DLCs.  I don't see the connection to your point.  Can you clarify?

 

 

I think I might understand your point about WH and LS now.  Are you saying that the "romance DLC's" would be like them?  If so, then I really don't want that because I don't like the idea of a romance being isolated to a single DLC and that's it.  I like the fact that romances are imbedded into the actual game.  People comment on your romance.  Your LI makes unique comments throughout the game if you are romancing them.  What you are proposing sounds like the content would be limited to the DLC and that's all.

 

Not exactly I'm using them more as a point of reference for content rather than as models for content. DLC can just as easily add stuff to the main game, it's something that would have to be tested and it's not an idea for DA:I in case anyone is thinking that. 

[Mockingword]

Lets see 4.5% of people own the hopelessly romantic trophy on the PS3 and 24.4% of people completed a DA2 romance. 

And so you think you can speak for the approximately 85% of people that didn't complete a romance?

[daveliam]

Lets see 4.5% of people own the hopelessly romantic trophy on the PS3 and 24.4% of people completed a DA2 romance. 

 

So?  A quarter of the player based completed a romance in DA 2.  That's a fairly good amount.  Less than that played as a dwarf in DA: O, but I don't see why that would mean that it should be relegated to DLC.  RPGs are better, in my opinion, when there are more options in the game, not less and certainly not by being charged extra for said options. 

 

Not exactly I'm using them more as a point of reference for content rather than as models for content. DLC can just as easily add stuff to the main game, it's something that would have to be tested and it's not an idea for DA:I in case anyone is thinking that. 

 

Then I'm really not following your point about Leliana's Song or Witch Hunt. 

[Vaseldwa]

What about Sebastian? He had brown hair? 

 

He doesn't count imo  , his romance was an abomination that couldn't even manage a hug, a kiss on the cheek, or a nice speech at the end plus I would have actually liked to see the marriage ceremony between him and hawk. (I was totally fine with no love scene) I mean the one time they include marriage and its a chaste marriage. I mean again I am fine about the no sex scene but why a chaste marriage when he is the last of his line and he could and should leave the chantry to help his people uugh I mean why make him a LI at all imo! 

[Kingthlayer]

That's the subjective part.

 

Look at it like this, you want to romance character X you buy the DLC. You don't want to romance character X you don't buy the DLC. Bioware is then free to focus on game content that everyone will play (like more/better quests) while you get a game more in line with a romance sim if you buy the DLC.

 

Regardless of what impression the forums may give less people finish the romances or even start them than people probably think. 

 

The thing you completely fail to understand is that if BioWare was to rip the romance content out of the game and add it as DLC(which they will never do because it's a completely horrible idea and even EA won't sink to that level of charging extra money) is that the "DLC" won't be any deeper or whatever than what is already in the game.

 

They won't add 10 hours of romantic content in a DLC, it will be the exact same level of romance that was in previous Dragon Age or Mass Effect games.

 

Sure they might notice the success of Citadel from Mass Effect 3 and do something similar.  But as I mentioned earlier that is far more than romance content and it will be used to add to every companion.

[kalasaurus]

He doesn't count imo  , his romance was an abomination that couldn't even manage a hug, a kiss on the cheek, or a nice speech at the end plus I would have actually liked to see the marriage ceremony between him and hawk. (I was totally fine with no love scene) I mean the one time they include marriage and its a chaste marriage. I mean again I am fine about the no sex scene but why a chaste marriage when he is the last of his line and he could and should leave the chantry to help his people uugh I mean why make him a LI at all imo! 

 

He eventually touched her shoulders... 

 

His marriage on the rivalry path isn't assumed to be chaste, but it's more of a political marriage than one based on love like the friendship path.  Still, no mention of it later.  He acts like he's going to leave her in the end.

[illymiel]

We all know, % of people who complete every single quest in game, it is wery small, means we don't need so many quests in game. Let's drop half of quest to different DLS and bioware will have time to make everyone romanseable, I'm sure a lot of people here want to romance Sandal and Broodmother.

 

If serious, Bioware have full statistic about kills, romanses and quests, craft etc. Let's them decide what to do with their game. There are a lot of clever and educated people who balance betwen time \ money \ funservice \ story size and a lot of other things.

[Kingthlayer]

We all know, % of people who complete every single quest in game, it is wery small, means we don't need so many quests in game. Let's drop half of quest to different DLS and bioware will have time to make everyone romanseable, I'm sure a lot of people here want to romance Sandal and Broodmother.

 

If serious, Bioware have full statistic about kills, romanses and quests, craft etc. Let's them decide what to do with their game. There are a lot of clever and educated people who balance betwen time \ money \ funservice \ story size and a lot of other things.

 

What is so bad about romancing Sandal.  The Inquisitor can close the veil tears with their hands, and Sandal is some sort of something special. A child with Sandal and a female Dwarf will give the OGB a run for their money in who is more badass.

 

Plus Inquisition needs a Dwarf romance if they won't give me Varric, I'll take Sandal.

[illymiel]

What is so bad about romancing Sandal.  The Inquisitor can close the veil tears with their hands, and Sandal is some sort of something special. A child with Sandal and a female Dwarf will give the OGB a run for their money in who is more badass.

 

Plus Inquisition needs a Dwarf romance if they won't give me Varric, I'll take Sandal.

 

Never sad it is bad.

 

I can say  romancing broodmother not bad either. She will be good at cleaning ( so many helping tentacles ) You will never find her in bed with other man ( doubd any one would like to meet our heroe wrath ) You will meet new wonderfull darkspawn friends. All that warm underground tunnels now your sweet home, also you will have a lot of funny and smart kids. And final, Look at her smile and loving eyes

[Vaseldwa]

He eventually touched her shoulders... 

 

His marriage on the rivalry path isn't assumed to be chaste, but it's more of a political marriage than one based on love like the friendship path.  Still, no mention of it later.  He acts like he's going to leave her in the end.

 

yep so he is friendzoned FOREVER! Mua ha ha ha 

[Ispan]

yep so he is friendzoned FOREVER! Mua ha ha ha 

 

Haha, actually he friendzones Hawke, not the other way 'round   Hawke makes it VERY clear what she wants, lol.

[Vapaa]

Never sad it is bad.

 

I can say  romancing broodmother not bad either. She will be good at cleaning ( so many helping tentacles ) You will never find her in bed with other man ( doubd any one would like to meet our heroe wrath ) You will meet new wonderfull darkspawn friends. All that warm underground tunnels now your sweet home, also you will have a lot of funny and smart kids. And final, Look at her smile and loving eyes

 

Will you take responsability for what you've done and give everyone 4 barrels of brainbleach ?

[Fiery Phoenix]

Lets see 4.5% of people own the hopelessly romantic trophy on the PS3 and 24.4% of people completed a DA2 romance. 

Believe it or not, the majority of players don't bother with romance at all. This was also evident in Mass Effect stats released a while back.

 

Your 'average' player simply doesn't have the passion you see around the forums. And while that appears to be the case, I'd actually go so far as to say that 4.5% is a pretty good number when you consider what you have to go through in order to unlock the Hopelessly Romantic achievement.

[Han Shot First]

Believe it or not, the majority of players don't bother with romance at all. This was also evident in Mass Effect stats released a while back.

 

 

Actually those stats are a bit misleading, because it only calculates the percentage of players who completed a romance. Games in general have very low completion rates. Usually it is well below 50%. That a low percentage of players completed a romance arc might be due to there being a low percentage of players who completed a game, since usually the romance arcs don't wrap up until right before the final battle.

 

A better statistic to guage the interest (or lack thereof) of the romance content, would be a statistic on how many players initiated a romance. 

[Ispan]

In fact, most people that buy our game simply won't finish it.

 

With this in mind, I was wondering was the 24.4% romance completion only among people who finished the game, or people who started the game at all?  If it's across all playthroughs, complete or not, that's actually a really great number.

 

Edit: and still substantial if you're only talking about completed playthroughs.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Actually those stats are a bit misleading, because it only calculates the percentage of players who completed a romance. Games in general have very low completion rates. Usually it is well below 50%. That a low percentage of players completed a romance arc might be due to there being a low percentage of players who completed a game, since usually the romance arcs don't wrap up until right before the final battle.

 

A better statistic to guage the interest (or lack thereof) of the romance content, would be a statistic on how many players initiated a romance. 

Very true.

 

I actually really wanted them to show us more detailed stats with regards to completion rates as well as romances. The stats they provided, while good enough to get a general perspective, were completely lacking as far as context goes. I agree that something like how many players initiated a romance (as opposed to finished it) would probably be more meaningful under the circumstances.

[jtav]

I liked Seb's romance actually. Well, not Hawke sexually harassing him. After that.

Feel pretty confident Blackwall and IB aren't LIs and Sera is. So pick any two of Varric, Dorian, and Solas for LI options.

[Deviija]

I liked Seb's romance path.  I liked looking at it as an ace (asexual) romance, which is something that I'd really like to see more of.  Not every relationship needs to be physical/sexual, just like physical flings/casual sex don't need to be romantic.  It makes me a little wary when people get really invested in Seb's physical interaction -- or lack thereof -- and dismiss it on those grounds as a romance.  

 

As for romance content cut from the game and made into DLC?  No thanks.  It was bad enough with TOR's Gay For Extra Pay method.  Now, additional romances that make previously non-LIs into LIs and/or add more companions to the game post-release as DLC?  Certainly.  

[Hanako Ikezawa]

He doesn't count imo  , his romance was an abomination that couldn't even manage a hug, a kiss on the cheek, or a nice speech at the end plus I would have actually liked to see the marriage ceremony between him and hawk. (I was totally fine with no love scene) I mean the one time they include marriage and its a chaste marriage. I mean again I am fine about the no sex scene but why a chaste marriage when he is the last of his line and he could and should leave the chantry to help his people uugh I mean why make him a LI at all imo! 

I liked his romance, he seemed like a really sweet guy, but yeah I don't like how the one time we have a "no sex until marriage" LI, either a ) It's a chaste marriage, or b ) we have no idea what happens to their relationship except they don't stick together like the other LIs do with Hawke. 

[Iakus]

I liked his romance, he seemed like a really sweet guy, but yeah I don't like how the one time we have a "no sex until marriage" LI, either a ) It's a chaste marriage, or b ) we have no idea what happens to their relationship except they don't stick together like the other LIs do with Hawke. 

 

O don't think sleeping with Leliana or Alistair in DAO was required for the romance.

 

Though the Warden does end up disappearing eventually, like Hawke.

[Giggles_Manically]

So what will people do if they cant romance the character they want?

I see lots of "I REALLY WANT TO ROMANCE X!" comments or "I WILL NOT  BE HAPPY IF I CANT HAVE X!" discussions.

So what will people really do if they cant have the romance they want?

[Nefla]

So what will people do if they cant romance the character they want?

I see lots of "I REALLY WANT TO ROMANCE X!" comments or "I WILL NOT  BE HAPPY IF I CANT HAVE X!" discussions.

So what will people really do if they cant have the romance they want?

Be sad.