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#10951
Kimarous

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:huh:  Mocking people about what?  The Sera discussion thread is just fine at the moment.

 

That Tumblr post. You know the one.



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I've heard this about Nate a lot.  He's like the David Bowie of the forums.   Men and women both seem to want him.   :P

 

Now I'm just reminded of this scene. Sorry if this offends.

 



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Grieving Natashina

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Now I'm just reminded of this scene. Sorry if this offends.

 

I'm sorry I'm out of likes!  It helps that is one of my favorite movies, back when Slater was still cute and could act worth a damn.



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So if Iron Bull will jump into bed with anyone sturdy enough to survive

 

and you have collected a group of fine sturdy warriors

 

..hmmmm


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If it's legit though, I'm surprised more people haven't latched onto it.

Is it just that fewer people find him attractive than Blackwall, Cullen, and Dorian, so they don't want the Bull to take a romance slot?

 

I noticed the quote floating around. Him being bisexual/pansexual is great, though I haven't jumped on the IB as Bi LI wagon yet since it doesn't mean he's available.  He could just be a bisexual non-LI companion.  I don't want to get my interests up too much.  

 

As someone that has wanted a m/m Qunari romance since the days of Sten speculation prior to DA:O was released (ah, memories), I would welcome IB as a bi LI wholeheartedly.  Do I personally find him good-looking?  No, not compared to, say, the Arishok of DA2, but I find his gregarious character type + being Qunari + his bio + how all of it could engage in a romance (sub-) plot to be extremely interesting.  



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So if Iron Bull will jump into bed with anyone sturdy enough to survive

and you have collected a group of fine sturdy warriors

..hmmmm


Cassandra, Varric, and Blackwall would survive the encounter.

Solas, Sera, Vivienne, and Dorian don't look sturdy enough.
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#10957
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Still trying to play catch up.

Bull seems to be bi then. Sera is gay. (That doesnt bother me.) Cullen would be straight or bi as per lore, two of my wardens were mage females (human/elf). One was a male mage which Cullen didnt reference with that I know of (so gay is not). Less of course rewritten Cullen then ok. Doesnt really bother me as long as he is Better than when i first got to know him.

Im still on sidelines to who I'd romance honestly. I dont know if I like them yet. :) I dont look at appearances cause its unimportant to me. Cass seems intriguing and possibly bi herself due to remarks in play throughs of hawke.

Edit...I made this after page 413, so I have LOTS of catching up to do.....oi

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Cassandra, Varric, and Blackwall would survive the encounter.

Solas, Sera, Vivienne, and Dorian don't look sturdy enough.

 

Well, if Dorian is a m/m option, he's getting romanced by male qunari inquisitor anyway.  I'm sure he'll be fine!


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I'm happy for other Sera fans, but I admit, it does put a dent in some of my plans. I wanted to be a Dalish mage for a change.. and she seemed like a cool character. I already felt odd since Solas kind of takes over the male elf mage (with a deep connection to the Fade) thing, but no other elf romance options to boot. Two things going against me here. So I've thrown that concept out.


Yeah, The news of her orientation gating has made me bin for good my original elvish male character build.
Still very sad about whole notion of placing these silly restrictions on li.

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Eveangaline

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Cassandra, Varric, and Blackwall would survive the encounter.

Solas, Sera, Vivienne, and Dorian don't look sturdy enough.

What about Leliana and Cullen?



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Yeah, The news of her orientation gating has made me bin for good my original elvish male character build.
Still very sad about whole notion of placing these silly restrictions on li.

 

I've been waiting to make a dalish mage for a long time too.

 

I could still do it, I guess. He'll just be a loner... just like my Dalish warden was. Seems a bit redundant.Two Dalish celibates. lol. I want to try to enjoy the game another way (with romance) again.



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It IS kinda funny that every dude elf PC has been denied lady elf love thus far.



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Still very sad about whole notion of placing these silly restrictions on li.

Has a writer directly come out and explained how set sexuality like this "flesh out" a companion more yet?  I know Allen has offered his thoughts on the subject, but he isn't one of the writers of the series.  I respect his views, but I'm still puzzled even after a couple of months now. However, the reasoning used by the DA team is just odd to me.  I still wish I could ask them in person how does a character's sexuality fleshes them out more?  Is it because it's truer to life to have set sexuality than just an ambiguous system?

 

If it's for representation I understand and support it, so I'm fine with set sexuality for those reasons.  I just don't know how (for example) Sera's sexuality defines her as a more rounded character, and I'm not sure how it would.   So she likes girls...okay...and??  Is there anything else that her sexuality add to her character, or is that it?  I'm not trying to come down on the writers, but I really hope that this is clarified further before the game comes out.


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#10964
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My male elf mage prefers human women anyway.

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I don't see the problem in making every character Bi. It worked fairly well in DA2, as each gender got a "taste" of everyone.  ;)

 

Can anyone address what I said? Wouldn't having everyone bi prevent most of the frustration and headaches based around romances?

 

I mean, why do characters need to be define by their sexuality anyway?



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My male elf mage prefers human women anyway.

My dwarf prefers Golems but has CRUELLY BEEN DENIED! Oh how she weeps.



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Can anyone address what I said? Wouldn't having everyone bi prevent most of the frustration and headaches based around romances?

 

I mean, why do characters need to be define by their sexuality anyway?

That's pretty much what some of us have been asking since they announced the LI system.   I'm not opposed to the system for DA:I, but the reasoning isn't great.  I'm happy to give them a chance to give us some clarity in the coming months though. 



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My dwarf prefers Golems but has CRUELLY BEEN DENIED! Oh how she weeps.

 

My female dwarf Warden was the loneliest of all. Even Gorim dumped her.



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Can anyone address what I said? Wouldn't having everyone bi prevent most of the frustration and headaches based around romances?
 
I mean, why do characters need to be define by their sexuality anyway?


They don't IMO. Sadly the fan base seems equally split down the middle on the issue with some wanting this particular aspect of their character fixed and defined while others were perfectly happy with bi/ambiguous sexuality based on player playthrough approach.
I'm hoping that they'll return to da2 approach for future games.
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Can anyone address what I said? Wouldn't having everyone bi prevent most of the frustration and headaches based around romances?

 

I mean, why do characters need to be define by their sexuality anyway?

 

Yes, it likely would prevent most of the frustration.  I do not think anyone is intentionally ignoring you, it is merely that this is a cyclic conversation we have in this thread roughly every 10-15 pages, if not sooner.  



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So I'm wondering, if IB is a bi romance option, who here is gonna ride that bull, and as what?

 

Personally if he's romanceable I'm romancing him first, and since I like to start with Dwarves, my lady dwarf is gonna be the one taking him on.



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Sera isn't defined by her sexuality. She just happens to be a lesbian.

If you want to romance her, then you are free to play a female Inquisitor.

That's gonna be my second playthrough - a lesbian mage romancing Sera.

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As much as I'm disappointed about Sera, I see the positives of it. I mean, I think there's something to be said about focusing the writing on a certain orientation. It could be a great experience for people it's targeted towards.



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So I'm wondering, if IB is a bi romance option, who here is gonna ride that bull, and as what?

 

Personally if he's romanceable I'm romancing him first, and since I like to start with Dwarves, my lady dwarf is gonna be the one taking him on.

 

 

I'll make a qunari for him at some point (probably a chick), but he is unlikely to be my first romance (I plan on playing a dwarf lady and thaaaat is not a match up I really want to see, although she could probably handle it :P).



#10975
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Has a writer directly come out and explained how set sexuality like this "flesh out" a companion more yet?  I know Allen has offered his thoughts on the subject, but he isn't one of the writers of the series.  I respect his views, but I'm still puzzled even after a couple of months now. However, the reasoning used by the DA team is just odd to me.  I still wish I could ask them in person how does a character's sexuality fleshes them out more?  Is it because it's truer to life to have set sexuality than just an ambiguous system?

 

If it's for representation I understand and support it, so I'm fine with set sexuality for those reasons.  I just don't know how (for example) Sera's sexuality defines her as a person, and I'm not sure how it would.   So she likes girls...okay...and??  Does anything else that her sexuality adds to her character, or is that it?  I'm not trying to come down on the writers, but I really hope that this is clarified further before the game comes out.

 

Okay, I'm just going to try and set this straight (haha!).

 

Yes, a person's sexuality doesn't define them entirely. But sexuality makes up one component of an entire identity, and each component like your age, your beliefs, your ethnicity, where you grew up, your education, and so on, all together shapes who you are as a person.

 

Now, as a heterosexual person, maybe, they won't necessarily respond or interact the same way a homosexual does. There might be similar reactions when you get down to the core of it, but there are a lot of nuances people tend to not notice. You see in movies that you have a main character that brags about scoring a date with the pretty girl next door to his pals after a long day at high school. In this day and age, if the guy snagged a date with a pretty boy, he might not be so open about it.

 

So what I'm trying to say that true, sexuality doesn't underpin a person's character totally, but it influences how they think, how they approach people, and how they communicate. And sexuality is all the more insidious than race or age or sex because it's not as obvious as those three, so it does get confusing just how much sexuality affects a person's thought patterns, or discourse, or who they relate to, and so on. Thing is, it just really depends on the person as well.

 

Personally speaking, sexuality is something that's very personal to me, so it does influence other areas of my personality- this guy is attractive, I'm more sensitive to discrimination based on gender identity and orientation, and playing my cards really close to my heart because society in general isn't that great when it comes to non-heterosexuality despite nowadays communities becoming more socially progressive. But that's not all of me, because there's other areas that play into it as well, like my age, my education, growing up in a western English-speaking society, my race, and so on.

 

"I still wish I could ask them in person how does a character's sexuality fleshes them out more?"

 

I only hope I answered this question as best as I can.


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