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[carlo angelo]

 

Things like your country, your ethncity and your age can shape how you are as a person, and no denying that.  However, I don't see how, as a pansexual person, I'm shaped by my sexuality other than "I happen to enjoy the romance of men and women."  Some of the harassment and other related crap I went through as a pansexual did define me some, but since that s/s relationships in Thedas are generally no big deal, that doesn't work.

 

What bothers me is the notion that a handful of people in Thedas aren't explicit stating if they are homosexual, bisexual or a lesbian, therefore they were "less developed characters."

 

I've heard this sort of argument before and I still say bollocks.  For instance, did Sten's sexuality define him in any critical way?  I didn't think so. Outside of trolling Morrigan, we never got told one way or the other. Same goes for Sigrun, that never talked about men or women in any romantic or sexual way either.  Her character was actually really developed overall, especially for a character introduced for an expansion. That's why that idea doesn't wash with me at all.  There are examples of characters not being defined by their sexuality and it not even coming into play at all.  

 

It only seems to come up mainly with LIs, with a few exceptions like Wade and Harren, and characters from the tie-in materials (Mae from the comics, the Empress in the books.)  Most of which aren't seen in game. 

 

I appreciate you trying to give perspective about this.    If I sounded a little frustrated in my post, it wasn't directed at you.

 

I want to hear what the writers on the DA Team have to say about it though.

 

 

The thing with sexuality is that it's closely tied to human nature and emotions, things that are already so abstract and nebulous that it's impossible to put into categories.

 

And this isn't the same for everyone. Everyone's reality of sexuality is going to be different from one person to the other, because no one's going to experience it for them. The closest we can get is that there will be people with similar understandings and we can relate to that, but because there's just a wide spectrum, there are going to be people who won't fit at all into these categories people set aside to better understand this concept of sexuality, as much as they try.

 

Don't worry, none taken. But I just wish I could totally understand their reasoning myself, and I think I might, but it still falls flat whenever someone brings up that it's a fantasy world we're dealing with.

[Grieving Natashina]

The thing with sexuality is that it's closely tied to human nature and emotions, things that are already so abstract and nebulous that it's impossible to put into categories.

 

And this isn't the same for everyone. Everyone's reality of sexuality is going to be different from one person to the other, because no one's going to experience it for them. The closest we can get is that there will be people with similar understandings and we can relate to that, but because there's just a wide spectrum, there are going to be people who won't fit at all into these categories people set aside to better understand this concept of sexuality, as much as they try.

 

Don't worry, none taken. But I just wish I could totally understand their reasoning myself, and I think I might, but it still falls flat whenever someone brings up that it's a fantasy world we're dealing with.

I can certainly see your point.  

 

The last sentence I think it the mental stumbling block for some of us.  For that, here ya go!

 

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[Eveangaline]

I'll make a qunari for him at some point (probably a chick), but he is unlikely to be my first romance (I plan on playing a dwarf lady and thaaaat is not a match up I really want to see, although she could probably handle it ).

Bah. Them dwarf ladies can handle them. They have hands and strapons.

 

I am seriously considering IB as my LI for the first playthrough.  Right now, I'm thinking I've got my first four playthroughs all set  out:

 

1.) male qunari two handed warrior - romance Dorian (if possible)

2.) male dwarf dual wield rogue - romance Iron Bull (if possible)

3.) female dwarf sword and shield warrior - romance Vivienne (if possible)

4.) male qunari healing spec'd mage - romance Cullen (if m/m)

 

Of course, since none of them are confirmed as LI's for those combinations, I might have to greatly rethink this once it gets closer to time.

Man, now I feel slacking for only having my first two planned (and the second I don't even have a class picked out, going to base it on what seemed the most fun in my first run)

[AkiKishi]

Don't worry I don't have any planned out. 

[Grieving Natashina]

Depending on how much Cole repulses me, it's a toss up between a warrior or dagger rogue for me (I might just replace him as the rogue). Or elf mage, evil bastard and celibate stick in the mud. I'll base him on Gargamel from the Smurfs.

Er, what does that have to do with romances? 

[Maria Caliban]

Haha, I could tell that you weren't trying to put words into my mouth.  You've probably seen that I'm open minded to the idea.  You offer some better questions than I could.
 
I wouldn't expect Lukes to be on the forums much, though he has ducked into Sera's thread a few times.  Maybe in an interview?   Also, if he felt inclined, DG could be the resident mouthpiece and goddess knows he can deal with the forumites.

If I see Luke, I will pounce.

David gets about 5 thousand questions about followers/romance on his tumblr every day, so I try to avoid asking him yet another one.

I sometimes wonder the best time to ask. I know right now they're both muzzled when it comes to discussing characters and in crunch mode. If DA:I does well, post-release should be a good time to get a conversation going. If it gets a DA II/ ME 3 reception, we probably won't see anyone for another year.

[daveliam]

 

Lol at Scribe Girl being called "Some Lady" in this picture!

[Maria Caliban]

David is a sweetheart. I don't think he hates fans. I think he takes a lot of crap and deals with it by getting snarky.

[AkiKishi]

I actually wanted to avoid Cass, because honestly... I don't know what to think of DG anymore. All of his posts seem smartassy and passive aggressive.. like he's holding a grudge against... someone. I feel like he hates fans. Even those of us who love the games. Like the culture of Bioware after ME3's fallout has gotten extemely bitter. And now he directs his snideness everywhere. As if we're all part of the "Take Back ME3" movement.

 

Now the point is, I'm afraid it'll just come out in the writing. I want to think better.. but damn..

 

Developer fan relationships are like celebrity and paparazzi. If you choose to engage , then you have to take the bad with the good. 

Sometimes a little professional distance is the better approach. 

[HiroVoid]

I actually wanted to avoid Cass, because honestly... I don't know what to think of DG anymore. All of his posts seem smartassy and passive aggressive.. like he's holding a grudge against... someone. I feel like he hates fans. Even those of us who love the games. Like the culture of Bioware after ME3's fallout has gotten extemely bitter. And now he directs his snideness everywhere. As if we're all part of the "Take Back ME3" movement.

 

Now the point is, I'm afraid it'll just come out in the writing. I want to think better.. but damn..

I think they're honestly pretty good at separating their feelings toward the fan community and the actual writing to be honest.......y'know aside from having some random npc talking and saying something like 'Don't you get the feeling things are somehow becoming.....simpler.'

[HiroVoid]

Developer fan relationships are like celebrity and paparazzi. If you choose to engage , then you have to take the bad with the good. 

There's good with paparazzi?  Photographers maybe, but I always though paparazzi were the crazed people who follow you everywhere.

[carlo angelo]

I actually wanted to avoid Cass, because honestly... I don't know what to think of DG anymore. All of his posts seem smartassy and passive aggressive.. like he's holding a grudge against... someone. I feel like he hates fans. Even those of us who love the games. Like the culture of Bioware after ME3's fallout has gotten extemely bitter. And now he directs his snideness everywhere. As if we're all part of the "Take Back ME3" movement.

 

Now the point is, I'm afraid it'll just come out in the writing. I want to think better.. but damn..

 

I have to say, I actually don't really get that from him, though. But then again, I tend to have a similar sense of humour from what I've seen from his posts so far.

 

EDIT; But like what the others said, I suppose it's just trying to keep a distance, since at least on tumblr, he interacts a fair bit, and respectfully so.

[Grieving Natashina]

Oh, talking about planned playthroughs. Have no clue who to romance. Cass and Viv maybe. The elf is celibate, like I said.

Ah, okay.  Sorry, a bit confused there.  

 

I'm not sure yet.  Before I played Origins, I thought I'd dislike Alistair and like Zevran more.  Turned out when I played, I loved Alistair instead and was happy to "friend-zone" Zevran.  Same with DA2: I thought I'd like Merrill as a romance and would despise Isabela.  In my case, Merrill just felt too much like a kid sister and I enjoyed Bela's romance.  As I've mentioned before (maybe in this thread,) I love how the DA team has this habit of subverting my expectations.

 

For now, I'm not sure.  Even though I'm not into Qunari, Iron Bull's personality is certainly ringing a couple of my bells.  If I get really lucky, then I'll get whom I want for my first Inquisitor: Varric.  I am rolling a dwarf, after all.  

[AkiKishi]

There's good with paparazzi?  Photographers maybe, but I always though paparazzi were the crazed people who follow you everywhere.

 

Celebrities use the paparazzi to stay relevant. They just like to have it all on their own terms and react badly when they get caught doing something. A lot of celebrities make no effort to engage them and mostly slip under the radar. 

[Grieving Natashina]

Snarky or not, I'd figure that if DG didn't want to deal with the fans, he'd take a cue from some of the others in the DA team and just stop posting.  I've been on the receiving end of some of his frustration and snark as well (even had a post of mine he linked from his tumblr that contained his response,) and it isn't fun.  However, I've watched his interviews and con panels and he just has a snarky sense of humor that doesn't always translate well into text.  He's also very blunt, but he really does care quite a bit about his fans.  I do think he shouldn't post at 1am when he's really tired and at the end of a long week, which can lead to some of his more caustic sounding posts.

 

I think he really does care. I honestly feel pretty lucky that he comes on here and is generally pretty nice to us.  I can't think of a lot of lead writers behind successful AAA franchises that do that with any regularity other than BW.  Most other big companies don't have their higher ranking members of the writing team posting, unless a game has just come out or is about to.

[carlo angelo]

I don't know. It's hard to read on the net, I guess. Maybe it's supposed to be funny. I know someone who's always caustic like that, but it's in real life. And he's not funny. Enough that people end up punching him. I can't stick around for long when people just can't speak normally.

 

I think it's probably where you lurk on the Internet that might have to do with these things. I mean, his opinions can be polarising, and I'm always up for hearing what he has to say, but that's because I really like his writing and how he articulates himself. You just have a different mindset and he just doesn't seem all that swell to you, I suppose, but from what I understand, the writing here in Dragon Age: Inquisition is something they're trying to keep fresh while catering to a lot of people and focusing on what hasn't been done before and... it's a hard balancing act, because there will be people who'll always be upset no matter what direction the creative team chooses.

[Grieving Natashina]

I think it's probably where you lurk on the Internet that might have to do with these things. I mean, his opinions can be polarising, and I'm always up for hearing what he has to say, but that's because I really like his writing and how he articulates himself. You just have a different mindset and he just doesn't seem all that swell to you, I suppose, but from what I understand, the writing here in Dragon Age: Inquisition is something they're trying to keep fresh while catering to a lot of people and focusing on what hasn't been done before and... it's a hard balancing act, because there will be people who'll always be upset no matter what direction the creative team chooses.

Yeah, I don't envy their jobs in that aspect, but I do admire the hell out of their convictions.  

[carlo angelo]

Funny thing is, my favorite character of his is Shale. Probably the most smartassy

 

Very funny, since I have a huge fondness for Alistair- the least smartassy of them all.

[Eveangaline]

Funny thing is, my favorite character of his is Shale. Probably the most smartassy

I haven't read the books so I'm left wondering what Shale is up to now. Running around as a dwarf killing birds? Wearing large amounts of jewlery to replace her old crystals? Smashing more birds?