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[Hanako Ikezawa]

I keep hearing about the romances supposedly being restricted by race (in addition to gender), would anyone happen to have a link that confirms this?

There is no confirmation on that. Just people speculating.

[Grieving Natashina]

I keep hearing about the romances supposedly being restricted by race (in addition to gender), would anyone happen to have a link that confirms this?

No such link exists.  That's just rumor, nothing more.

 

 

Not to mention the fact that the bi love interests are constant threesome fodder... It's not as if we get that enough in the real world, man.

Yeah, no kidding.  The only two characters confirmed as bisexual via WOG have both been available for three or foursomes.  

[Ianamus]

I wouldn't really call Isabela "black". She always struck me as being more of a middle-eastern ethnicity parallel.

 

I don't really see the issue with Vivienne not being an LI, because the Scribe girl appears to be of a similar ethnicity (though perhaps closer to Isabela's looks). It's hard to tell without a good close-up of her, but either way there should be at least one non-white female LI. 

[Deviija]

Indeed. For reference, here is a black skin tone in Frostbite:

 

 

One thing I am incredibly happy to have -- beautiful dark skin that doesn't succumb to limitations in ME and previous DA titles.  My canon PCs in BW titles tend to be brown and dark-skinned folk, so it's exciting to me.  

[LiaraShepard]

anders, fenris, leliana and merrill are also bisexual and they're not promiscuous. So I don't see a problem of having some bisexual companions with higher sex drive. 

[nightcobra]

But that doesn't mean he would be obsessed with every gender. The Amish teen would go after the girls if he's straight and after the boys if he's gay. I just find the promiscuous bisexual theme to be overplayed lately with Zevran, Isabella, Shatterstar, Captain Jack, etc. It gives off the stereotype for those who never met any bisexual person that all bisexuals would just sleep around with anyone.

 

Though for iron bull it would still make sense, the qun as far as relationships go, gender is irrelevant(unlike the amish on that matter), only relevant for procriation, so going on that tangent gender is most likely irrelevant when for entertainment purposes. Iron Bull most likely doesn't care about genders as long as he gets a good time. 

[Aner91]

Thing is, Isabela and Zevran wouldn't be themselves without the promiscuity either. It's part of their individual charm as well. It's unfortunate though that it trickles down to general misconceptions.

My thought exactly, their characters are very open in that regard, but since Iron bull may or may not be Bi, and it says that he sleeps with almost everyone he won´t break...i get why he do it, thanks to the character page, but still...gives of the wrong idea somewhat...

[Battlebloodmage]

 All I'm saying is we have enough examples of it already. I don't consider the other three because Merrill, Ander, and Fenris weren't bisexual but more playersexual, especially characters like Fenris who was written with a male Hawke in mind. The promiscuous characters could work just as well if they're straight, like a Casanova. We need actual bisexual options where they admit they like both genders in the same universe who is not promiscuous. 

[Asdrubael Vect]

Dorian: Gay

 

 

 

 

 

 

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another Tevinter Magister would be gay?  I and many female gamers hope that he is not

[LiaraShepard]

All I'm saying is we have enough examples of it already. I don't consider the other three because Merrill, Ander, and Fenris weren't bisexual but more playersexual, especially characters like Fenris who was written with a male Hawke in mind. The promiscuous characters could work just as well if they're straight, like a Casanova. We need actual bisexual options where they admit they like both genders in the same universe who is not promiscuous. 

 

but I think the devs said all characters in DA2 have been bisexual. 

[Ianamus]

 

anders, fenris and merrill are also bisexual and they're not promiscuous. So I don't see the problem in having some companions bisexual and with higher sex drive. 

 

But they are all so vague about their sexualities that I can't even count the number of arguments I've seen that they were not bisexual at all, and you wouldn't know on a single playthrough. 

 

I don't see why all bisexual companions have to be either incredibly promiscuous or so ambiguous that you don't even realize they are bisexual without multiple playthroughs. 

[LiaraShepard]

I would be very disappointed if iron bull was straight...

[nightcobra]

 

 All I'm saying is we have enough examples of it already. I don't consider the other three because Merrill, Ander, and Fenris weren't bisexual but more playersexual, especially characters like Fenris who was written with a male Hawke in mind. The promiscuous characters could work just as well if they're straight, like a Casanova. We need actual bisexual options where they admit they like both genders in the same universe who is not promiscuous. 

 

If Cullen is Bi, you might just get that wish

[Battlebloodmage]

but I think the devs said all characters in DA2 have been bisexual. 

I'm pretty sure they said they're depending on the playthrough. That's why Anders' relationship wasn't referenced in femShep.

[Grieving Natashina]

anders, fenris, leliana and merrill are also bisexual and they're not promiscuous. So I don't see a problem of having some bisexual companions with higher sex drive. 

Well, one could argue that the characters in DA2 were available to all, and not confirmed as bisexual via WOG (Anders, Zevran, Leliana and Isabela are the only ones stated by WOG to be bisexual.)   I'll grant you Leliana subverting that trope.

 

However, since I'm of the mindset that there will be 2 bisexuals available (one male, one female,) I would rather neither of them be overly promiscuous.  I do like Isabela and Zevran, I just hated how much the game told you that they really really liked sex with both genders guys!  A lot!

 

The characters don't have to be easy in bed just to show that they are bi, which is a trope that keeps coming up.  I do think that Leliana was well done and a template I'd love to see more of in the future.

 

 

I'm pretty sure they said they're depending on the playthrough. That's why Anders' relationship wasn't referenced in femHawke.

Fixed that for you.  I'm getting a little sleepy so I'm a bit lazy, but there is plenty of sources from DG that will back this up.

[Arakat]

There is no confirmation on that. Just people speculating.

 

No such link exists.  That's just rumor, nothing more.

 

Ah, just the usual then. Thank you!

[Battlebloodmage]

   

If Cullen is Bi, you might just get that wish

If Cullen is bi and Dorian is gay.

 

[LiaraShepard]

I'm pretty sure they said they're depending on the playthrough. That's why Anders' relationship wasn't referenced in femShep.

 

no, they clearly said anders was designed as bisexual.I'm sure with anders.

[Ianamus]

 

Well, one could argue that the characters in DA2 were available to all, and not confirmed as bisexual via WOG (Anders, Zevran, Leliana and Isabela are the only ones stated by WOG to be bisexual.)   I'll grant you Leliana subverting that trope.

 

However, since I'm of the mindset that there will be 2 bisexuals available (one male, one female,) I would rather neither of them be overly promiscuous.  I do like Isabela and Zevran, I just hated how much the game told you that they really really liked sex with both genders guys!  A lot!

 

The characters don't have to be easy in bed just to show that they are bi, which is a trope that keeps coming up.  I do think that Leliana was well done and a template I'd love to see more of in the future.

 

 

Fixed that for you.  I'm getting a little sleepy so I'm a bit lazy, but there is plenty of sources from DG that will back this up.

 

 

Even Leliana heavily implies that she had been very promiscuous in the past though, as part of being a bard. In fact it still boils down to the same thing as Zevran and Isabela: Only really indicating she is bisexual by mentioning having lots of sex with people of both genders (even if it was in the past).

[Grieving Natashina]

no, they clearly said anders was designed as bisexual.I'm sure with anders.

 

http://dgaider.tumbl...tions-on-anders

 

He even mentions that he wrote Anders as bisexual from the start.  

 

Huh, that was a quick google search.  

 

 

Even Leliana heavily implies that she had been very promiscuous in the past though, as part of being a bard. 

That's fine by me, but at least she isn't hitting on everything that moves in the game, unlike Zevran and Isabela largely do.

[Maria Caliban]

I suspect Vivienne or Cassandra will be bisexual and neither of them strike me as 'promiscuous' or 'slutty.' Leliana will also be in the game and she won't be sleeping with anyone.

Tangentially, if Sera is getting her freak on from one side of Thedas to another, I'd be fine with that. Liking sex and having a ton of it is great in my book.

[wright1978]

Mate, you're preaching to the choir here, I'm firmly team playersexual, too. But Bioware has made their stance on it clear and we just have to accept that they value representation over the accessability of LI, and tbh, that is something I can absolutely appreciate, especially as someone who's part of the LGBTQ+ community, because they're at least coming from a well-meaning place.

It is what it is. The game's not going to change. So what you can do instead is make the best out of it. And one of the ways to do that is to see it as an adventure in perspectives. I prefer playing a female inquisitor, too. But if I have to play a male one to romance Cassandra I'm going to give it a try, because why the heck not.

Indeed i can understand reasoning even if i don't agree in the slightest with the decision. Representation via fixed gating is something that has zero value for me whilst Accessability is of massive importance. All i can do is cross my fingers to see how badly my experience suffers as a result & hope future installments don't follow down this path.

[LiaraShepard]

I suspect Vivienne or Cassandra will be bisexual and neither of them strike me as 'promiscuous' or 'slutty.' Leliana will also be in the game and she won't be sleeping with anyone.

Tangentially, if Sera is getting her freak on from one side of Thedas to another, I'd be fine with that. Liking sex and having a ton of it is great in my book.

 

so I don't see the problem if iron bull was bisexual and promiscuous. as you said there are still other bisexual characters (at least one) who might not have a higher sex drive.