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That's the one. I don't know which is sadder, the fact that people obviously missed that her looks are actually quite important to her characterisation or the fact that some people can't stand that there's one woman in a video game who isn't a walking sexbot. But, alas, that's a tangent for another time.
I don't know what you're talking about. Aveline is totally a knockout 
All I'm saying is that things like these make me happy that modding won't be as easy.
And I don't get it, why take satisfaction in a restrication concerning everyone because of some tasteless mods ?
And texture swapping mods are actually the easiest mods to do, so those whitewashing mods will keep on coming.
I don't know what you're talking about. Aveline is totally a knockout
Oh, I'm not disagreeing on that. She can guard my Kirkwall anytime tbh.
It feels like you are afraid of how people will judge you BECAUSE you are bi. I don´t know you and most likely never will, but even if you don´t tell people that you are bi, it´s not something to hide either imo. I don´t go to every sranger and say: " Hello there, I´m gay btw!", cause that´s just stupid, but if they ask me i will tell them. I joke alot about my sexuality so i have fun with it in that way aswell. True story: i came out in school when we still shared the showers after gym class. You know what the teachers had me do after i came out?, they hade me use the teachers showers cause i made my so called "friends" uncomfortable...so i agree you don´t judge characters in the game after their sexuality, but you can´t deny that peoples lives and storys can change cause of it...i don´t agree that people should judge people depending what they like, it´s just a sad truth...i think it´s just nice to have a gay/bi etc person in the games i play...
LOL, I definitely feel that people have judged me because I'm bi, and I don't have any problem with the fact that I don't disclose to most people I know. IF I had a female partner, I would definitely want to introduce her to people and talk about her, but right now, while single, it's not my co-worker's business, or even casual friends, unless we're getting close and talking about past dating experiences. Trust me, as someone whose been both "out and proud" and closeted, it means less headaches, stereotypes, and gossiping about me by people I don't care about. And I'm also a private person in general, and introverted, and yeah, even prudish in some ways. I just *don't* talk about sex with people I don't know well. And I know that people with "gaydar" are going to be the ones I make friends with anyway, most of the time, so generally it works itself out.
As far as having gay/bi characters, I'm definitely NOT saying that all the characters we meet should be "closeted" (or whatever the Thedas equivalent is). I want diversity. I want a wide range of character types, not just promiscuous bisexual rogues, to represent the LGBT spectrum. And I'd LOVE to see butch lesbian characters along side femme lesbians, not just one or the other.
BUT, I also know, from experiencing DA2, that I prefer the "all bi" love interests model. It doesn't preclude diverse LGBT representation, and it shouldn't mean that those love interests are automatically worse or less defined. I understand the issue with resources, and it is what it is. But all of the hemming and hawing in these threads about set sexualities making characters "better" is quite annoying, when you're a person who relates more to the DA2 characters who didn't disclose than those who were supposedly the "realistic" bisexuals.
And I don't get it, why take satisfaction in a restrication concerning everyone because of some tasteless mods ?
And texture swapping mods are actually the easiest mods to do, so those whitewashing mods will keep on coming.
What I don't get is why you feel so personally attacked because of my opinion. Nothing changes with it. All I did was share it.
If you don't understand it then that's your problem. I don't have to explain myself to you.
Oh, I'm not disagreeing on that. She can guard my Kirkwall anytime tbh.
Aveline is like the best friend for me 
she is there no matter what and kind hearted, so Donnic found a special one i will give him that lol...
Aveline is like the best friend for me
Aveline is the Murphy to my Dresden.
With less UST, at least on her part 
Yeah I want my mods. The whitewashing mods are disturbing as hell but much like those rather questionable Skyrim mods I can look at them go "WTF" and move on and install the mods I do want and enhance the game for me.
(and honestly it was that description that made me wtf more than anything "I couldn't stand her overly dark everything and made her a new kind of beautiful." LOL Just LOL)
Especially the hairstyle and colors mods D:
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Yeah I want my mods. The whitewashing mods are disturbing as hell but much like those rather questionable Skyrim mods I can look at them go "WTF" and move on and install the mods I do want and enhance the game for me.
(and honestly it was that description that made me wtf more than anything "I couldn't stand her overly dark everything and made her a new kind of beautiful." LOL Just LOL)
Especially the hairstyle and colors mods D:
I am pretty happy that some of the bigger mesh mods, like skin tone, are going to be much harder to do. If that means I am less likely to have mods (and just play the game like most console players do,) then I'm content with that trade off.
That's just my opinion. To each their own.
LOL, I definitely feel that people have judged me because I'm bi, and I don't have any problem with the fact that I don't disclose to most people I know. IF I had a female partner, I would definitely want to introduce her to people and talk about her, but right now, while single, it's not my co-worker's business, or even casual friends, unless we're getting close and talking about past dating experiences. Trust me, as someone whose been both "out and proud" and closeted, it means less headaches, stereotypes, and gossiping about me by people I don't care about. And I'm also a private person in general, and introverted, and yeah, even prudish in some ways. I just *don't* talk about sex with people I don't know well. And I know that people with "gaydar" are going to be the ones I make friends with anyway, most of the time, so generally it works itself out.
As far as having gay/bi characters, I'm definitely NOT saying that all the characters we meet should be "closeted" (or whatever the Thedas equivalent is). I want diversity. I want a wide range of character types, not just promiscuous bisexual rogues, to represent the LGBT spectrum. And I'd LOVE to see butch lesbian characters along side femme lesbians, not just one or the other.
BUT, I also know, from experiencing DA2, that I prefer the "all bi" love interests model. It doesn't preclude diverse LGBT representation, and it shouldn't mean that those love interests are automatically worse or less defined. I understand the issue with resources, and it is what it is. But all of the hemming and hawing in these threads about set sexualities making characters "better" is quite annoying, when you're a person who relates more to the DA2 characters who didn't disclose than those who were supposedly the "realistic" bisexuals.
I like the "All bi" thing better aswell (damn you DG for not giving my male noble Alistair!!! *raises a raging fist to the heavens above*). And i see now that we are very different people, but that´s okey . And i agree set sexuality ain´t the way to go to make the characters "better". But it is not for us to decide, it is the writers chose what they want to do. We must (on some level lol) respect that and move on.
I REALLY REALLY hope not, because the interview stated that he would sleep with anyone, and we don't need more slutty bisexual characters like Zevran and Isabella for people to reinforce the old stereotype that bisexuals are all promiscuous, so they're understandably bisexual. Someone doesn't need a reason to be bisexual.
Um.... sleeping with anyone you want doesn't make you slutty. It makes you as someone who doesn't want relationships but someone who wants to just enjoy being with people in bed for fun.
On that note, it would be nice if we had a gay or a straight companion who sleeps around with his/her preference of gender. I agree though that it gets tiring to see that trope on bi characters.
I hate the word slutty tbh.
LOL, I definitely feel that people have judged me because I'm bi, and I don't have any problem with the fact that I don't disclose to most people I know. IF I had a female partner, I would definitely want to introduce her to people and talk about her, but right now, while single, it's not my co-worker's business, or even casual friends, unless we're getting close and talking about past dating experiences. Trust me, as someone whose been both "out and proud" and closeted, it means less headaches, stereotypes, and gossiping about me by people I don't care about. And I'm also a private person in general, and introverted, and yeah, even prudish in some ways. I just *don't* talk about sex with people I don't know well. And I know that people with "gaydar" are going to be the ones I make friends with anyway, most of the time, so generally it works itself out.
As far as having gay/bi characters, I'm definitely NOT saying that all the characters we meet should be "closeted" (or whatever the Thedas equivalent is). I want diversity. I want a wide range of character types, not just promiscuous bisexual rogues, to represent the LGBT spectrum. And I'd LOVE to see butch lesbian characters along side femme lesbians, not just one or the other.
BUT, I also know, from experiencing DA2, that I prefer the "all bi" love interests model. It doesn't preclude diverse LGBT representation, and it shouldn't mean that those love interests are automatically worse or less defined. I understand the issue with resources, and it is what it is. But all of the hemming and hawing in these threads about set sexualities making characters "better" is quite annoying, when you're a person who relates more to the DA2 characters who didn't disclose than those who were supposedly the "realistic" bisexuals.
Great points.
I love how Bioware throw me off the scent all the time. For example in DA2, I was so sure Aveline was a gay LI, since she did not seem interested in me, until the whole side quests thing for her. 2 curve balls there, she was neither.
In DA:I I can see the same happening with Cass, she sorts of looks butch (what I think) and I expected her to actually be the gay LI but was (since Sera is now) wrong, I suspect she'll be the straight LI judging by Bioware history.
That leaves Viv as the bi LI.
PS: in ME3 I ignored Cortez for a bit, he came to me strong and I did not want to mistakenly trigger a locked LI. we know what happened to him, RIP Steve.
I am pretty happy that some of the bigger mesh mods, like skin tone, are going to be much harder to mod. If that means I am less likely to have mods (and just play the game like most console players do,) then I'm content with that trade off.
That's just my opinion. To each their own.
It's just a texture replacement though. I doubt that's going to be impossible to mod. It's the more intricate mods like adding content such as additional quests, additional lands that's gonna become downright impossible to do.
Also skin tone being harder to mod also comes in the players adding more tones variety. So if you don't like BW's default skin tones? Want a darker skin tone than BW has available or a lighter one? Welp you're outta luck.
But yes it's a YMMV situation.
Especially the hairstyle and colors mods D:
Do any of you guys get this? I've never been able to understand chromatic preferences. Why are skin color, eye color, or hair color such dealbreakers for some people?
Baffling, I tell you 
I think it would be fun if males cpuld initiate Sera's romance. At first, she thinks he's playing around, then she shuts it down early. It might be fun if nothing can stop you from beginning a romance, but certain inquisitors can't complete all romances.
A bit like Aveline.
This is why I'm fond of the set sexualities, as opposed to playersexuality (though that system has value as well). I dunno, I like the idea that I can get turned down, and not just by people who are completely off the table no matter what gender or race my character is. It makes the companions feel more fleshed out, that they'd have at least some sort of opinion on who they would and wouldn't like to enter a romantic relationship with. It's even better when it's possible to flirt with said companions, and get turned down when they're not interested.
I just wish the hair styles "flow" a little more, it´s like the protagonist found a nice piece of bark to put on their head 
But i most stay on topic!! lol, i have only one thing to say about the n NPC romance options, nice, but where were you in origins when Bann teagan was RIGHT THERE!!!?? 
I just wanted to point out something. It isn't serious, but just a fun fact.
So far in Bioware games, every exclusively gay LI has a name that starts with the letter S: Samantha, Sera, Steve.
Do any of you guys get this? I've never been able to understand chromatic preferences. Why are skin color, eye color, or hair color such dealbreakers for some people?
Baffling, I tell you
Sometimes I just like to pretend I'm actually beating up darkspawn and it's hard to create your simself in DA when your actual self has blue hair...
Do any of you guys get this? I've never been able to understand chromatic preferences. Why are skin color, eye color, or hair color such dealbreakers for some people?
Baffling, I tell you
ME3's hairstyles still hurt me...
So bad...so bad...so BAD. *shudders*
But honestly I just want better looking hairstyles. Fancier for some (particularly mages), longer and since modding isn't as NO CLIPPING NOOOO as BW is they're often more willing to give me the styles I fancy
I just wanted to point out something. It isn't serious, but just a fun fact.
So far in Bioware games, every exclusively gay LI has a name that starts with the letter S: Samantha, Sera, Steve.
Cause of the "S/S" ....i don´t know, but nice find
I just wanted to point out something. It isn't serious, but just a fun fact.
So far in Bioware games, every exclusively gay LI has a name that starts with the letter S: Samantha, Sera, Steve.
Solas......?
I just wanted to point out something. It isn't serious, but just a fun fact.
So far in Bioware games, every exclusively gay LI has a name that starts with the letter S: Samantha, Sera, Steve.
...Solas?
*flees from angry m/m Dorian fans*
Edit: Aww ninja'd.
I just wanted to point out something. It isn't serious, but just a fun fact.
So far in Bioware games, every exclusively gay LI has a name that starts with the letter S: Samantha, Sera, Steve.
LOL! I had noticed that in ME3, but hadn't connected it to Sera...could this mean something for Solas???
(I really actually hope they're not naming characters based on s/s but it's fun to speculate)
I just wanted to point out something. It isn't serious, but just a fun fact.
So far in Bioware games, every exclusively gay LI has a name that starts with S: Samantha, Sera, Steve.
I think that's going to change. Hearing info that makes me think Dorian is gay. Which annoys me greatly. Not because of any issue with m/m as I love Alix Wilton Regan and it's looking like my options are a guy I'm meh on and an ox.
Sometimes I just like to pretend I'm actually beating up darkspawn and it's hard to create your simself in DA when your actual self has blue hair...
ME3's hairstyles still hurt me...
So bad...so bad...so BAD. *shudders*
But honestly I just want better looking hairstyles. Fancier for some (particularly mages), longer and since modding isn't as NO CLIPPING NOOOO as BW is they're often more willing to give me the styles I fancy
I was actually thinking of modding the hair of companions, not the PC's xD
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