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Unless it's part of a certain racism or other prejudice on the part of the character, it has no more impact on their characterization than their preference for apples over oranges.
Vocaloid fans look at you with pity
Ahem, anyway, how is prefering one race sexually over another a racism?
Oh, look, I prefer half-asian guys over european guys
And this apparently makes me a racist!
So now you can judge characters, not only for the sexuality but also for the race?...great...
Unless it's part of a certain racism or other prejudice on the part of the character, it has no more impact on their characterization than their preference for apples over oranges.
What if they want an elf or a dwarf so concerned about preserving the species he/she would only romance someone of the same race and the opposite gender? And even if it is just a "quirk", "preference", or whatever you want to call it, such arbitrary details actually help solidify a character.
Vocaloid fans look at you with pity
Ahem, anyway, how is prefering one race sexually over another a racism?
Oh, look, I prefer half-asian guys over european guys
And this apparently makes me a racist!
Would you choose to date a half-asian dude but not a european dude if they acted the exact same, treated you identically and had the same personality and quirks?
Edit: worded myself better.
Purposes are arbitrary.
Representation for characters of different races.
You create representation for that by adding more characters of different races, not by taking the characters you have and saying they'll only bang a member of a certain race.
God forbid characters for actually having their own preferences and not falling for the PC at first glance...
See I rather racial preferences happen with companions that aren't LIs (and the Lis be 4 all bi characters) but ah well. I'm not getting what I want *cheers*
Ah well. If I'm not able to make a attractive to me femQunari though...that'll be a deal breaker.
Y'know, it's kinda funny to me because back on the old site, people actually requested such a feature. There were threads talking about how it wouldn't make sense for a qunari to have sex with a human and lada lada lada. Personally, I was neutral towards the issue, mainly because the in-game lore has zero indication as to whether such relationships would make sense in the world of DA.
So I'm neither surprised nor disappointed by the inclusion of such a restriction. In fact, I think it's a pretty bold move as you stated earlier.
Vocaloid fans look at you with pity
Ahem, anyway, how is prefering one race sexually over another a racism?
Oh, look, I prefer half-asian guys over european guys
And this apparently makes me a racist!
Considering they've shown there's higher variation within a race than between them....yes. At the very least, unfortunately prejudiced, but that's getting into a discussion of systemic power structures.
Now i'm really curious on how the romances will be handled now that there are race restrictions too.
Cass not being into human women and or qunari women.... ahh it sounds horrible. 
Would you choose to date a half-asian dude but not a european dude if they acted the exact same, treated you identically and had the same personality and quirks?
Edit: worded myself better.
I would suggest terminating this particular line of discussion as soon as possible. I don't see it ending well.
Would you choose to date a half-asian dude over a european dude if they acted the exact same, treated you identically and had the same personality and quirks?
Yeah
Because I prefer how half-asians look
I am half-asian myself, half-slavic
Apparently I'm racist against my own relatives...
I wouldn't mind such restrictions because obviously people have diffirent tastes
But because we have only a few LIs as a rule, race restriction is just ineffective
Actually, race gating could be an effective way to expand the number of LI's on the implementation end.
The Devs have mentioned a few times that one of the harder parts of love scenes isn't dialogue or direction, but modeling. Even culmination scene needs to work with all available character builds, regardless of their build or height. One of the issues that made Dwarves a difficult romance subject was the extreme height disparity.
If you do race gating, you're cutting out the difficulty of modeling for all models and builds by, well, not. This cuts the number of iterations needed to model the scenes for the romances, which can allow you to use those iterations for something else... like modeling the romance scene of someone else who otherwise wouldn't get one.
If the limiting factor is modeling characters, race gating would be an effective way to cut costs to enable more romances.
Would you choose to date a half-asian dude but not a european dude if they acted the exact same, treated you identically and had the same personality and quirks?
Edit: worded myself better.
They don't look the same and people have their own kinks. Some people like bearded men more, some like shaved. Some people like Asian women, some people like European women more. It's a human preference.
Y'know, it's kinda funny to me because back on the old site, people actually requested such a feature. There were threads talking about how it wouldn't make sense for a qunari to have sex with a human and lada lada lada. Personally, I was neutral towards the issue, mainly because the in-game lore has zero indication as to whether such relationships would make sense in the world of DA.
So I'm neither surprised nor disappointed by the inclusion of such a restriction. In fact, I think it's a pretty bold move as you stated earlier.
Given the stats on how many people play humans I'd say it's only bold if they restrict humans (male humans in particular). So Sera's pretty bold. But I'm waiting to see how the rest of the fem LIs are restricted.
But I did say if there were gender limits there should be racial limits and choice limits. I got 2 outta 3 so far. let's hope the third occurs too least then it'd make sense.
Considering they've shown there's higher variation within a race than between them....yes. At the very least, unfortunately prejudiced, but that's getting into a discussion of systemic power structures.
Seriously?..
Well, Varric is racist according to such logic
Now i'm really curious on how the romances will be handled now that there are race restrictions too.
Cass not being into human women and or qunari women.... ahh it sounds horrible.
I'm sure she will be into humans. But I'm nut sure if she's into women too.
Yeah
Because I prefer how half-asians look
I am half-asian myself, half-slavic
Apparently I'm racist against my own relatives...
So what´s next in that case? skin color?...
Now i'm really curious on how the romances will be handled now that there are race restrictions too.
Cass not being into human women and or qunari women.... ahh it sounds horrible.
I don't think we have to worry about wether Cass is attracted to humans or not. I don't know about qunari's though.
Hm. Speaking from a marketting perspective though, this may not be such a smart move, especially since they're being so finicky with what they do and don't want to reveal.
Imagine how someone as stupid as Fox will take this for example.
"Bioware encourages racism by restricting romance options."
Perhaps it would just be better for them to get it over and done with who LI's are and what their preferences are?
Vocaloid fans look at you with pity
Ahem, anyway, how is prefering one race sexually over another a racism?
Oh, look, I prefer half-asian guys over european guys
And this apparently makes me a racist!
Having a preference for one race over another based on appearance isn't racism and I didn't say it was. What I said was that it was just a random character quirk that adds no depth to the character. Your preference for half-asians over europeans is all well and good, nothing wrong with it, but it's random and doesn't add anything to your character; doesn't change your values, your beliefs, your principles, or anything about you that actually matters.
And I continued to say that the only way you make it actually matter more than being an arbitrary preference is by having it be a part of a racist attitude. Then that starts to affect values and what not, the stuff that actually makes up a character.
Now i'm really curious on how the romances will be handled now that there are race restrictions too.
Cass not being into human women and or qunari women.... ahh it sounds horrible.
I'd be more worried if she's into women at all.
They don't look the same and people have their own kinks. Some people like bearded men more, some like shaved. Some people like Asian women, some people like European women more. It's a human preference.
My edit tried to make that clear.
Yeah
Because I prefer how half-asians look
I am half-asian myself, half-slavic
Apparently I'm racist against my own relatives...
I edited that to make it clearer. Choosing one over another is perfectly understandable. My question was if an European looking guy had all the traits you found attractive, save for looking European would you not date him because of that? Because that's what you can do with the PC. You can have the Pc act neigh identically save race or gender (and sometimes even those two have the same options 90% of the time).
I would suggest terminating this particular line of discussion as soon as possible. I don't see it ending well.
True it'd probably end up as well as the "I don't find black people attractive." discussion. That was fun.
A racial preference, at best, is just a random quirk of the character that doesn't give them any actual depth any more than what style hat they prefer.
The only way to give it depth beyond the random, meaningless "I prefer blue to green" quirk, is to make it an aspect of a prejudice or racism that a character has.
So why don't we do that?
Iron Bull doesn't have sex with people he's afraid he will break. What if he's afraid he will break elves: wouldn't that be an aspect of his character?
Say that we have an Elf who is dedicated to preserving elfdom for future elves... and as a consequence, is unwilling to have any sort of relationship that couldn't produce an elf. Ixnay to same sex and non-elven couplings, but a part of the character.
Or we could have someone who has a irrational but real discomfort about romancing dwarves, associating it with pedophelia. Wrong, to be sure, but charater-driven.
So what´s next in that case? skin color?...
Maybe, if I feel like it
It's my life, my tastes, my body and my choice who to date and who not to date
Though it seems you guys can't see the diffirence between tastes and actual racism. Pretty sad IMHO
You create representation for that by adding more characters of different races, not by taking the characters you have and saying they'll only bang a member of a certain race.
That's an arbitrary rationalization.
Arbitrary is bad, remember?
Maybe, if I feel like it
It's my life, my tastes, my body and my choice who to date and who not to date
Though it seems you guys can't see the diffirence between tastes and actual racism. Pretty sad IMHO
i meant for the game not YOUR life, since i don´t know you i don´t care.
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