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It's because our PCs are created by us
We decide what are they like
NPCs and companions? They are supposed to represent the world they live in
Thedas is far from a pretty place. Novels like TMI and Calling make it even more obvious
It is. And we only get a handful of LIs.
I don't see why the racial restrictions can't apply to casual hookups or the non romance companions (since I highly doubt we're getting more than six and we already have gender gating that'll probably cut that in half).
yay we can still be platonic life partners
It never would have worked out for us anyway. You make me feel short. 
Besides, frizies make fantastic friends.
You want me to go soft on them?
Not a problem. At all.
So what´s next in that case? skin color?...
Vivienne refuses to romance you because of your taste ina armour.
If we have racial restrictions, but I still get crap like Alistair being fine with sucking face with my Warden after she helped the werewolves slaughter the elves...
I think that would require more fine-tuning than anything else. Is the relationship still in the early-stages? What were your motivations? I can see his reaction being different if you two had just begun a relationship and you did it because you like killing people versus if you two had been dating for a while and you did it because you felt it was the best option.
I mean, I do agree there should be "Moral Event Horizons", aka you committing an act they have absolute zero tolerance for and breaking up with you for it, but smaller "disapproval" acts would be harder.
That is a shallow way to look at romance.
On the contrary, it gives the depth
Deep character aren't simple, they aren't all liberal democratic feminists who accept everyone despite anything
Deep characters have flaws, quirks, biases. Deep relationships have problems, break ups, sweet, dark, bitter and sad moments
More details -> better
The whole point of differing races is to make it that you're PCs aren't identical. Hence why Alistair only makes a human queen while an elf and dwarf either become his mistress or get blown off completely. I adds more depth to it all in little ways if done right, even if all your PCs do largely the same things.
But he doesn't turn down a dwarf or an elf flat.
I don't have a problem with having realistic consequences for interracial romances in the game. But shutting them off completely is taking away potentially interesting stories along with penalizing players for selecting their favorite race.
That is a shallow way to look at romance.
How? A fairytale romance where love conquers all boundaries is shallow. A person having concrete preferences and having their own desires is not shallow.
That is a shallow way to look at romance.
Romance is pretty shallow. Some comedian whose name I can't remember once said we date people we like having dinner with and who we like ******* with. There are a lot of people I like to have dinner with. There are considerably less people I'd like to do the latter with.
That is a shallow way to look at romance.
It's a rather realistic and plausible way to look at it. Romance has a physical component, and physical component includes physical compatibility- what you find attractive and pleasing.
As amusing as the legend of ugly Shepard was...
Guys, really , you should calm down. If they are going to do the race thing, it will probably be a qunari/dwarf thing. And it will mostly like be caused by game mechanics. They don't want the romance scenes to be weird/.
How? A fairytale romance where love conquers all boundaries is shallow. A person having concrete preferences and having their own desires is not shallow.
Romance without context is shallow...just cause you disire someone specific wont make it any less shallow lol
But he doesn't turn down a dwarf or an elf flat.
I don't have a problem with having realistic consequences for interracial romances in the game. But shutting them off completely is taking away potentially interesting stories along with penalizing players for selecting their favorite race.
I think it comes down to the individual companion though.
For example, Varric outright says in DA:2 that he doesn't find humans attractive, so if he suddenly did a complete turn-around and was available for humans in Inquisition I wouldn't be particularly happy.
Similarly I couldn't see a character like Velanna going into a relationship with a human, at least not in the scope of a single game, since her initial prejudice is so high.
So in some cases the restrictions would make sense.
Just wait; Cullen won't care if you raise the bodies of the dead to fight your enemies, but if you have horns, well, that's just beyond the pale for him.
LOLOLOL
You want me to go soft on them?
Not a problem. At all.
*spits out soda*
Goddamnit dean!
The whole point of differing races is to make it that you're PCs aren't identical. Hence why Alistair only makes a human queen while an elf and dwarf either become his mistress or get blown off completely. I adds more depth to it all in little ways if done right, even if all your PCs do largely the same things.
Alistair having a human queen wasn't romance exclusive he can marry a femawarden (if hardened) that he despises. It's a political move.
Not to mention you can bypass that completely by having Anora remain queen.
His romance wasn't racial restricted. Different races simply got different outcomes in certain cases. I have absolutely no issue with that.
Guys, really , you should calm down. If they are going to do the race thing, it will probably be a qunari/dwarf thing. And it will mostly like be caused by game mechanics. They don't want the romance scenes to be weird/.
Well, i better play a Qunari then ( i didn´t want to do it) to have any shot to romance Iron bull. IF any of this is true...
Romance without context is shallow...just cause you disire someone specific wont make it any less shallow lol
And that runs contrary to race selection because...?
I'm not even a fan of the feature, anymore than I am a fan of gender restrictions. I just don't share the outrage.
I'm sure she will be into humans. But I'm nut sure if she's into women too.
I know she'll be into humans, i meant human women, not men.
Alright, how about this.
I'm playing the game and I've gotten to the point of approval or whatever where one of the characters is interested in me and asks if there's a relationship developing and this is the point where I turn them down or start the romance in earnest, if I want to turn them down, do I, the player, get the option of citing race as a reason? Do I, hypothetically speaking, get the option to tell Cassandra "Sorry, I'm not into other humans. I'm only into elves." ?
Because if I do, and I'm able to reject any advances made by npc's based on race just like they get to reject me on that same criteria, then I will drop all my complaints.
I think that would require more fine-tuning than anything else. Is the relationship still in the early-stages? What were your motivations? I can see his reaction being different if you two had just begun a relationship and you did it because you like killing people versus if you two had been dating for a while and you did it because you felt it was the best option.
I mean, I do agree there should be "Moral Event Horizons", aka you committing an act they have absolute zero tolerance for and breaking up with you for it, but smaller "disapproval" acts would be harder.
There are already choices that auto end a romance. If the romance is still in early stages still have it end. And the PCs motivations don't matter it's the NPC deciding whether or not he's interested in the PC. Just because it's an ends justifies the means scenario does not mean the NPC has to agree with it. If anything that gives them the most lauded background.
I don't think having a horde of werewolves slaughter innocent elves (talking about the children and such) is a small disapproval act. Simply sliting the merchant's throat might be a smaller disapproval act and I can see that being ignored or brushed off but major acts like siding with the werewolves or elves? No.
At the moment i just want to know if some races will be restricted to fewer (or perhaps even none, in a worst case scenario) options than others. Particuarly since gender gating is already in place.
Yes. There is no guarantee that a particular gender/race combination will have as many romantic prospects as another.
And that's fine. Romance options are not candy to be dispensed fairly and evenly, and if there's a particular character that you've decided before the game is released that you must romance, it's advisable you play a different PC. The most we can do (and have done) is ensure that there's no overall slanting towards a particular group-- it's all over the map, for various reasons.
Romance without context is shallow...just cause you disire someone specific wont make it any less shallow lol
Because that's not romance, that's just lust. For most people romance is when you love someone, with context of course, but you also have that desire for physical activities with them.
I'm saying that they shouldn't limit the player's options based off of arbitrary decisions. Those decisions should have a purpose behind them.
Gender gating can have a purpose; that purpose being representation for people of different orientation.
What purpose does race gating serve?
Cassandra, Dorian and Sera restricted to their race. Semi-confirmed rumourGuys, really , you should calm down. If they are going to do the race thing, it will probably be a qunari/dwarf thing. And it will mostly like be caused by game mechanics. They don't want the romance scenes to be weird/.
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Yes. There is no guarantee that a particular gender/race combination will have as many romantic prospects as another.
And that's fine. Romance options are not candy to be dispensed fairly and evenly, and if there's a particular character that you've decided before the game is released that you must romance, it's advisable you play a different PC. The most we can do (and have done) is ensure that there's no overall slanting towards a particular group-- it's all over the map, for various reasons.
*sigh*
Oh, look, I can sense another shitstorm coming this way
I'm done, let's people panic over a possibility that there are race restrictions in DA:I
Yes. There is no guarantee that a particular gender/race combination will have as many romantic prospects as another.
And that's fine. Romance options are not candy to be dispensed fairly and evenly, and if there's a particular character that you've decided before the game is released that you must romance, it's advisable you play a different PC. The most we can do (and have done) is ensure that there's no overall slanting towards a particular group-- it's all over the map, for various reasons.
? wait...so there might be a human LI who's not into humans? Interesting.
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